View entire thread: MASSIVE happy dance
Posted by off kilter quilter on Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:43 AM    Post subject: Re: MASSIVE happy dance



It feels glorious!!! Now, maybe I can find the time to squeeze in the overdue BOMs and get the kids clothed done, and
swap blocks (those will probably be first since that fabric is on the cutting table right now), then outfits for
Christmas picture (always taken in October so that we have them back in time)...argh....might have to shuffle a few
things. The rest of the stuff on my list can wait, no official deadline, but it would be nice to have them finished
before I had the business ready to roll. On that note, we have new neighbors, and one of them is a HS
senior....debating about offering to make her a dress for homecoming in exchange for advertising and small help around
the house vs. actually money for the dress (she buys fabric and pattern). off to bed now, Larisa AliceW wrote:
[quote:b7cc8f88e0]I am very envious, Larisa! I have an Irish triple chain that I have been trying to finish for some
time now. You may have just given me the push I needed! Can't wait to see your pix! I bet it feels real good, doesn't
it? Alice in NJ, Royal Cybrarian http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/ "Just about the time a woman thinks her work is
done, she becomes a grandmother." Edward H. Dreschnack "off kilter quilter"
<spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote in message news:noWdnSSrY6B5tnzZnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@adelphia.com... : Well, the
queen-size beast that started 6 years ago is finished. yep, : done, last stitich in place and neatly folded to give to
Dad when he : arrives on Thursday. : : I did take pictures, but they haven't been uploaded yet... might not get : to
them until sometime before the end of the month, given that we are in : the last week of summer vacation and all the
various stress points that : are going on. : : but, it's DONE!!!!!!!!! : : Larisa, cleaning out Ebay stuff then moving
on to other projects - like : the kids clothing which is clogging up my futon, which needs to be : cleared off so that I
can move it and rearrange the rest of the sewing room. [/quote:b7cc8f88e0]

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View entire thread: MASSIVE happy dance
Posted by AliceW on Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:20 AM    Post subject: Re: MASSIVE happy dance

I am very envious, Larisa! I have an Irish triple chain that I have been trying to finish for some time now. You may
have just given me the push I needed! Can't wait to see your pix! I bet it feels real good, doesn't it? Alice in
NJ, Royal Cybrarian http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/ "Just about the time a woman thinks her work is done, she becomes
a grandmother." Edward H. Dreschnack "off kilter quilter" <spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote
in message news:noWdnSSrY6B5tnzZnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@adelphia.com... : Well, the queen-size beast that started 6 years ago
is finished. yep, : done, last stitich in place and neatly folded to give to Dad when he : arrives on Thursday. : : I
did take pictures, but they haven't been uploaded yet... might not get : to them until sometime before the end of the
month, given that we are in : the last week of summer vacation and all the various stress points that : are going on. :
: but, it's DONE!!!!!!!!! : : Larisa, cleaning out Ebay stuff then moving on to other projects - like : the kids
clothing which is clogging up my futon, which needs to be : cleared off so that I can move it and rearrange the rest of
the sewing room.

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View entire thread: MASSIVE happy dance
Posted by off kilter quilter on Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:05 AM    Post subject: MASSIVE happy dance

Well, the queen-size beast that started 6 years ago is finished. yep, done, last stitich in place and neatly folded to
give to Dad when he arrives on Thursday. I did take pictures, but they haven't been uploaded yet... might not get to
them until sometime before the end of the month, given that we are in the last week of summer vacation and all the
various stress points that are going on. but, it's DONE!!!!!!!!! Larisa, cleaning out Ebay stuff then moving on to
other projects - like the kids clothing which is clogging up my futon, which needs to be cleared off so that I can
move it and rearrange the rest of the sewing room.

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View entire thread: OT - Weather in Scotland, Ireland & Wales
Posted by Johanna Gibson on Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:52 PM    Post subject: Re: OT - Weather in Scotland, Ireland & Wales

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:31:05 -0500, "Sherry Starr" <snstarr@comcast.net> wrote: [quote:07600d0169]Which
months would be the best to visit Scotland, Ireland, & Wales? DH & I are looking into a nice trip in 2007 or
possibly late this year. This is one of the ones we are interested in. We were thinking late April, but we don't know.
We can go anytime. Sherry Starr [/quote:07600d0169] For Scotland, I recommend May. It's fairly warm (you won't
need a big coat) but the midges aren't out yet. If you visit Scotland in June, July or August, I can guarantee midges -
small flying insects that bite, and leave a very itchy welt. I've never been to Ireland or Wales, sadly, so
can't speak about their weather. If you go to http://community.webshots.com/user/Jo_in_Scotland you can see some
views of the weather and what sort of clothing we were wearing, when we were on the west coast of Scotland and the Isle
of Skye in late May this year - check out the Isle of Skye folder. -- Jo in Scotland

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View entire thread: OT: Sewing quilted belt?
Posted by Anna Belle on Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:06 PM    Post subject: Re: OT: Sewing quilted belt?

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 11:08:38 -0500, "dogmom" <amy@squirrel-solutions.com> wrote: [quote:23e2f9d3ef]Not
entirely OT: I want to make a cloth belt. Used to have one that was about 2 1/2" wide, tapered to about 1/4",
wrapped around twice to tie in the front, and was sewn--quilted--in lines its length; it had something inside--maybe
flannel?--to give it body, or maybe very thin cotton batting? It eventually faded so much I got rid of it. Five years
later, I wish I had it to copy! Anyone know how to do this or know of a link before I go cut up precious cloth and
muddle around? TIA Dogmom Way back when, Shirley Adams had a TV show. Mostly clothing[/quote:23e2f9d3ef]
construction, but she had a really neat collection of ideas for making belts-matching and non matching. I know she has
a web site, not sure if the books are still published, but you might just have luck and find one in a library somewhere.
Anna Belle in Palm Bay

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View entire thread: not OT, suggestions wanted
Posted by Sue DiNapoli on Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:29 AM    Post subject: Re: not OT, suggestions wanted

How about LRV Cloth Creations or Larisa's Lovelies: Custom Sewing or Larisa's Stitchery or LRV Creative Sewing
something that identifies YOU as well as WHAT YOU DO...then people don't have to call and say: what exactly do you
create? what do you do? short and sweet is awesome, but sometimes you need more than two words to describe
something....I really need my thesaurus for this one!!! Sue in Ithaca PS...consulted the thesaurus...it didn't help...
In article <8tCdnes00ONS0UjZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@adelphia.com>, off kilter quilter
<spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote: [quote:352e187323]DH has been encouraging me to pick up where I left off in
NY and start sewing for money again. HOwever, in hindsight, the "name" on my business cards was incorrect. I
had "LRV Originals" then my contact info, but the only truly original thing I did was an 8 of pumpkins
Halloween costume. I really want to get back into this as a) it feeds my creative urges, and b) brings in money that I
odn't have to take from the family pool (DHs paycheck). I made a list of the things I MOST like to do, and here it is:
costumes formals children's clothing infant/toddler bedding curtains and small home dec items sometimes women's clothing
crafty things So....any ideas for a name?? Thanks bunches! Larisa[/quote:352e187323]

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View entire thread: not OT, suggestions wanted
Posted by Jane Kay on Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:56 AM    Post subject: Re: not OT, suggestions wanted

What about LRV Custom Sewing? Jane in NE Ohio "off kilter quilter" <spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote
in message news:8tCdnes00ONS0UjZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@adelphia.com... [quote:81bdaf4ecd]DH has been encouraging me to pick
up where I left off in NY and start sewing for money again. HOwever, in hindsight, the "name" on my business
cards was incorrect. I had "LRV Originals" then my contact info, but the only truly original thing I did was
an 8 of pumpkins Halloween costume. I really want to get back into this as a) it feeds my creative urges, and b) brings
in money that I odn't have to take from the family pool (DHs paycheck). I made a list of the things I MOST like to do,
and here it is: costumes formals children's clothing infant/toddler bedding curtains and small home dec items sometimes
women's clothing crafty things So....any ideas for a name?? Thanks bunches! Larisa[/quote:81bdaf4ecd]

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View entire thread: not OT, suggestions wanted
Posted by Terbear on Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:37 AM    Post subject: Re: not OT, suggestions wanted

Hey Larisa, good for you! how about changing originals to creations? LRV Creations, if you make the Wonderpets capes, I
would be in line to buy one! T -- Terbear~Curator of the HUG Gallery~ http://gallery.ppwp.com/gallery/HUGS Teri's
quilts~ http://gallery.ppwp.com/gallery/Tquilts "off kilter quilter" <spamfree@somewherequiet.net>
wrote in message news:8tCdnes00ONS0UjZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@adelphia.com... [quote:f8002b9d83]DH has been encouraging me to
pick up where I left off in NY and start sewing for money again. HOwever, in hindsight, the "name" on my
business cards was incorrect. I had "LRV Originals" then my contact info, but the only truly original thing I
did was an 8 of pumpkins Halloween costume. I really want to get back into this as a) it feeds my creative urges, and
b) brings in money that I odn't have to take from the family pool (DHs paycheck). I made a list of the things I MOST
like to do, and here it is: costumes formals children's clothing infant/toddler bedding curtains and small home dec
items sometimes women's clothing crafty things So....any ideas for a name?? Thanks bunches! Larisa[/quote:f8002b9d83]

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View entire thread: not OT, suggestions wanted
Posted by off kilter quilter on Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:58 AM    Post subject: not OT, suggestions wanted

DH has been encouraging me to pick up where I left off in NY and start sewing for money again. HOwever, in hindsight,
the "name" on my business cards was incorrect. I had "LRV Originals" then my contact info, but
the only truly original thing I did was an 8 of pumpkins Halloween costume. I really want to get back into this as a)
it feeds my creative urges, and b) brings in money that I odn't have to take from the family pool (DHs paycheck). I
made a list of the things I MOST like to do, and here it is: costumes formals children's clothing infant/toddler
bedding curtains and small home dec items sometimes women's clothing crafty things So....any ideas for a name?? Thanks
bunches! Larisa

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View entire thread: OT - where to find heavy wool in London
Posted by TerriLee in WA on Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:59 PM    Post subject: Re: OT - where to find heavy wool in London

Unfortunately, Kate is on holiday with her mom. Probably won't help for this weekend, but I've mail ordered heavy wool
(a long time ago) from a company called Britex Fabrics. NAYY, but loved the fabrics and the service.
http://www.britexfabrics.com/ -- TerriLee in WA (state) remove the cats to reply
http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=548330161 "Patti"
<Patti@quik.clara.co.uk> wrote in message news:Xj3lKgD7yc0EJAjF@quik.clara.co.uk... [quote:dd4fcb211e]If John
Lewis, in Oxford Street, sells fabric, that might be a possible place. Other than that, I don't know the shops well
enough any more, Hanne. Sorry. Kate will probably know, though. . In message <easg03$hm2$1@qmul>, Hanne
Gottliebsen <hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk writes Sorry, totally OT, just hoping someone here knows! I'm in London, UK. Some
relatives are coming over for the weekend, and just this morning called and asked where they can find heavy wool to use
for uniform jackets for reenactment. It needs to be thicker than normal wool for clothing. Anyone has any ideas?
Thanks! Hanne in London -- Best Regards pat on the hill[/quote:dd4fcb211e]

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View entire thread: OT - where to find heavy wool in London
Posted by Megwen Woodham on Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:24 AM    Post subject: Re: OT - where to find heavy wool in London

Kate Dicey has made Uniform jackets, so would know where to get that sort of fabric. It's probably on her web page.
http://www.katedicey.co.uk/ Megwen Bath, England "Hanne Gottliebsen" <hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk> wrote in
message news:easg03$hm2$1@qmul... [quote:b9e0fc8049]Sorry, totally OT, just hoping someone here knows! I'm in London,
UK. Some relatives are coming over for the weekend, and just this morning called and asked where they can find heavy
wool to use for uniform jackets for reenactment. It needs to be thicker than normal wool for clothing. Anyone has any
ideas? Thanks! Hanne in London[/quote:b9e0fc8049]

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View entire thread: OT things I have learned while coping with the heat
Posted by Taria on Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:20 PM    Post subject: Re: OT things I have learned while coping with the heat

The first thing I do when I get moving in the morning is open all the window blinds/curtains. I like a bright house, no
caves for me. I'd rather be in a bright room than be naked. I had a mom that ran around half naked and I just never
wanted to do that to my kids ; ) Never worried about anyone attacking me. They'd be sorry! Taria Batik Freak wrote:
[quote:1b17d6eaca]What you do in your own home is your business; no need for clothing inside your own house. ;) L
"Toni Schneidt" <tonischneidt@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:FL2dnSxw7vK1G03ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@insightbb.com... LOL Nightmist We, too, are having horrible heat, but I am not
brave enough to run around in my undies. We have a bunch of pervs and up-tights here. I'll either get attacked or the
police will get called. Toni / Indiana [/quote:1b17d6eaca]

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View entire thread: OT things I have learned while coping with the heat
Posted by Batik Freak on Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:58 PM    Post subject: Re: OT things I have learned while coping with the heat

What you do in your own home is your business; no need for clothing inside your own house. ;) L "Toni
Schneidt" <tonischneidt@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:FL2dnSxw7vK1G03ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@insightbb.com... [quote:ff31ce3704]LOL Nightmist We, too, are having horrible
heat, but I am not brave enough to run around in my undies. We have a bunch of pervs and up-tights here. I'll either
get attacked or the police will get called. Toni / Indiana [/quote:ff31ce3704]

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View entire thread: another sock monkey quilt pattern
Posted by joan8904 in Bellevue Nebr on Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:16 PM    Post subject: Re: another sock monkey quilt pattern

Mom is making 12 of them for Xmas. And fussing about how hard it is to sew and stuff the tails. She's got them sitting
together in a recliner as she works on them. Each one will get two sets of clothing. She was going to make a girl set
and a boy set for each (as there is no anatomical difference on her dolls), but decided that cross-dressing was not a
concept that she wanted to introduce to the little tykes receiving them. :> I'm thinking that some of those monkey
dolls will have to be accompanied by monkey quilts, don't you think? joan Polly Esther wrote: [quote:89e0dfb600]Nope,
Patti. Not for you. Just forget it. I don't even want to imagine what your furry faces could do 'toying with' a sock
monkey. Not a pretty sight. Fun, maybe, but not pretty. You need to just look at the funny sock monkey pictures and
go on back to safer pursuits. Polly "Patti S" wrote> I've never had a sock monkey, never made a sock
monkey, and I'll be dipped - I don't even know how!! But ---- gosh oh dear ---- that quilt is just downright adorable!!!
Thanks for sharing! Patti in Seattle [/quote:89e0dfb600]

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View entire thread: OT - Florida Alligators
Posted by Debi Matlack on Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:44 AM    Post subject: Re: OT - Florida Alligators

LOL... love that joke. Been in FL all my life and I'm amazed at the things people will do, get bitten, then squeal
about the alligators. Don't walk your dogs along the shoreline and play/swim/fish during daylight hours to avoid most
of them. Not hard to do... Debi (and quit freakin' building new homes in/on swampland that belongs to the gators in
the first place!!!!) "Sherry Starr" <snstarr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:E66dnZfNOujNCS_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:eb2596c9c8] Florida Alligators The Florida Department of
Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, golfers and tourist in general to take extra precautions and
keep alert for alligators while in : Alachua, Marion, Lake, Collier, Lee, Seminole, Osceola, Polk, Brevard, Putnam and
Orange counties. They advise people to wear noise-producing devices such as little bells on their shoes or clothing to
alert but not startle the alligators unexpectedly.They also advise the carrying of pepper spray in case of an encounter
with an alligator. It is also a good idea to watch for fresh signs of alligator activity. People should learn to
recognize the difference between small young alligator and large adult alligator droppings. Young alligator droppings
are smaller and contain fish bones and possibly bird feathers. Adult alligator droppings have little bells in them and
smell like pepper spray. [/quote:eb2596c9c8]

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View entire thread: OT - Florida Alligators
Posted by Pauline on Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:44 PM    Post subject: Re: OT - Florida Alligators

That made me laugh out loud & even my husband laughed out loud. (He needed a good laugh this morning - I think he
hit the wall last night, with the stress of helping take care of me while I am healing with my broken leg & also
taking care of our young dog, so it was really timely!) -- Pauline Northern California "Sherry Starr"
<snstarr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:E66dnZfNOujNCS_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:6c4602d2c6]
Florida Alligators The Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, golfers and
tourist in general to take extra precautions and keep alert for alligators while in : Alachua, Marion, Lake, Collier,
Lee, Seminole, Osceola, Polk, Brevard, Putnam and Orange counties. They advise people to wear noise-producing devices
such as little bells on their shoes or clothing to alert but not startle the alligators unexpectedly.They also advise
the carrying of pepper spray in case of an encounter with an alligator. It is also a good idea to watch for fresh signs
of alligator activity. People should learn to recognize the difference between small young alligator and large adult
alligator droppings. Young alligator droppings are smaller and contain fish bones and possibly bird feathers. Adult
alligator droppings have little bells in them and smell like pepper spray. [/quote:6c4602d2c6]

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View entire thread: OT - Florida Alligators
Posted by Polly Esther on Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:35 PM    Post subject: Re: OT - Florida Alligators

The Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks reports returning 60 alligators back to the Swamp this 4th
of July week. They didn't mention the contents of droppings but some of the big guys wanted to take the tourists to
dinner. This is the Hospitality State, you know. Polly "Sherry Starr" wrote > Florida Alligators
[quote:afad3f1b1b] The Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, golfers and
tourist in general to take extra precautions and keep alert for alligators while in : Alachua, Marion, Lake, Collier,
Lee, Seminole, Osceola, Polk, Brevard, Putnam and Orange counties. They advise people to wear noise-producing devices
such as little bells on their shoes or clothing to alert but not startle the alligators unexpectedly.They also advise
the carrying of pepper spray in case of an encounter with an alligator. It is also a good idea to watch for fresh signs
of alligator activity. People should learn to recognize the difference between small young alligator and large adult
alligator droppings. Young alligator droppings are smaller and contain fish bones and possibly bird feathers. Adult
alligator droppings have little bells in them and smell like pepper spray. [/quote:afad3f1b1b]

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View entire thread: OT - Florida Alligators
Posted by KJ on Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:24 PM    Post subject: Re: OT - Florida Alligators

That always makes me laugh. There's a similar joke about bears. Thanks. KJ "Sherry Starr"
<snstarr@comcast.net> wrote in message news:E66dnZfNOujNCS_ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:95bf9663bf]
Florida Alligators The Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, golfers and
tourist in general to take extra precautions and keep alert for alligators while in : Alachua, Marion, Lake, Collier,
Lee, Seminole, Osceola, Polk, Brevard, Putnam and Orange counties. They advise people to wear noise-producing devices
such as little bells on their shoes or clothing to alert but not startle the alligators unexpectedly.They also advise
the carrying of pepper spray in case of an encounter with an alligator. It is also a good idea to watch for fresh signs
of alligator activity. People should learn to recognize the difference between small young alligator and large adult
alligator droppings. Young alligator droppings are smaller and contain fish bones and possibly bird feathers. Adult
alligator droppings have little bells in them and smell like pepper spray. [/quote:95bf9663bf]

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View entire thread: OT - Florida Alligators
Posted by Sherry Starr on Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:54 PM    Post subject: OT - Florida Alligators

Florida Alligators The Florida Department of Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, golfers and
tourist in general to take extra precautions and keep alert for alligators while in : Alachua, Marion, Lake, Collier,
Lee, Seminole, Osceola, Polk, Brevard, Putnam and Orange counties. They advise people to wear noise-producing devices
such as little bells on their shoes or clothing to alert but not startle the alligators unexpectedly.They also advise
the carrying of pepper spray in case of an encounter with an alligator. It is also a good idea to watch for fresh signs
of alligator activity. People should learn to recognize the difference between small young alligator and large adult
alligator droppings. Young alligator droppings are smaller and contain fish bones and possibly bird feathers. Adult
alligator droppings have little bells in them and smell like pepper spray.

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View entire thread: Harley-Davidson Quilt Block
Posted by Kay Ahr on Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:20 PM    Post subject: Re: Harley-Davidson Quilt Block

Hi Carol, When I make my Harley quilt, it will be partly from the Harley T-shirts that I have "earned" riding
my own bike or on the back of somebody's else's bike. I bought a Harley nightshirt on sale -- it's cotton and has the
Harley insignia all over it. So, my suggestion is to go to the nearest Harley shop and see what kind of clothing they
have. Buy some and cut it up! Kay Ahr in Reno/Sparks, Nevada Clarence Crow wrote: [quote:c6d3dfdcaf]Hi again all
from Nev & Carol d/under. Carol speaking here I'm emerging from lurkdom to request some pointers for making a Quilt
for my 38yr old (semi) "Redneck" son, who has a Harley-Davidson, (which he loves), but not a member of a
Biker's club. I'm thinking some Jungle-Green/camouflage blocks as the main background, with maybe some Harley-Davidson
blocks plus some Jim Beam ones interspersed. The design is floating around in my head ATM, plus the structure and layout
is not final. Any pointers anyone? TIA Carol[/quote:c6d3dfdcaf]

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View entire thread: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?
Posted by Pati Cook on Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:47 PM    Post subject: Re: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Actually, the basic sizing is standardized, what is not is the amount of ease allowed in the pattern. Most patterns
have to have some ease to allow you to move/breathe and so on. Very stretchy knits don't need much, if any ease, very
crisp fabrics usually need more ease. That is why patterns that are designated for knits only don't work well in
wovens and patterns designed for wovens may feel way to big when made in a stretchy (even moderately stretchy) knit.
<G> Clothes are much more complicated than quilts, but I love sewing them. <G> Then there is the style
ease that is added to patterns. Things like "big shirts" have a lot more ease than a more fitted shirt and
so on. Best thing to do is to measure the pattern against your measurements to see what is what. If you have something
that fits the way you like, then measure that garment in the same places as you measure the pattern. It will get you
close to right. If in doubt, make it bigger. You can more easily take in most places than let them out. <VBG> I
really wish I had a way to help all of you that have problems to figure them out in person. Sigh. It is so simple once
you know what to do. May take some time, but the results is so worth it. Pati, in Phx NightMist wrote:
[quote:5219234aa2]On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:49:49 -0500, "dogmom" amy@squirrel-solutions.com> wrote:
Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any of y'all know where I can go to get the
measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size indicated by measurements on the
pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on this group but you guys know
everything, for which I am always so grateful... Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.fibergypsy.com/Charts_and_Other_Helpful_Resources/Size_and_Measurement_Charts/ However as others have
pointed out, standard sizing seems to have gone right out the window over the past couple of decades. When I buy a
pattern anymore I figure that the measurements are merely vague sort of general suggestions, and assume from the start
that I am going to have to do alterations. It's rather freeing actually, if I see something I like and they only have
it a size or so too large or too small I buy it anyway because hey, I have to alter it anyhow. NightMist doing a lot of
her own pattern drafting anymore.[/quote:5219234aa2]

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View entire thread: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?
Posted by Kate Dicey on Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:21 AM    Post subject: Re: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

dogmom wrote: [quote:7c8431f847]Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any of
y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size
indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on
this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful... TIA Dogmom I do a lot of clothing
stuff, much of it for customers. The one thing I[/quote:7c8431f847] tell them first off if they are buying a pattern is
to buy it for their MEASURED size, not their RTW size. Then I measure again and make a toile to test it. With some
of the present crop of customers I'm on the second or third toile! There is a chart of standard sizes and another of
standard ease allowances on my web site, but what you need to remember is that all of these are approximate! The only
way to go is to test the pattern in gash fabric, make the alterations, transfer them to the paper, and try again...
The only pattern I've been able to use in YEARS straight out of the packet, with the only alteration being added length
for the lass being 6'2", is the glorious one from Australia that I bought for a bridesmaid. My latest skirts
for me were cut originally using a Vogue pattern, cut size 16 with a size 14 waist because that's what the pattern
said I needed... It was so much too big that I cut the pattern down and the next one was cut size 14 with a size 12
waist that I then took in... It's still a bit big! ARGH! As for which make is most accurate... Well... Vogue
Designer ones are a better fit than most, and more consistent than others. Simplicity are VERY variable: I've had
some that were close to perfect and others that were so big folk wandered around in them for days looking for the way
out... KwikSew are pretty good, and I've had fair success with Burda in the past. I'm playing with pattern software
at the moment, and so far results are good. It's a bit labour intense getting the sloper correct, but once that is
fixed, you can churn out many different styles with only minor modifications to the basic chart, and the software does
all the hard stuff of calculation for stretch and woven fabric and puts in whatever ease you like... :) -- Kate
XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

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Posted by NightMist on Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:26 AM    Post subject: Re: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:49:49 -0500, "dogmom" <amy@squirrel-solutions.com> wrote:
[quote:8eea2bd78d]Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any of y'all know where I
can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size indicated by
measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on this group but
you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful... Is this what you were looking for?[/quote:8eea2bd78d]
http://www.fibergypsy.com/Charts_and_Other_Helpful_Resources/Size_and_Measurement_Charts/ However as others have
pointed out, standard sizing seems to have gone right out the window over the past couple of decades. When I buy a
pattern anymore I figure that the measurements are merely vague sort of general suggestions, and assume from the start
that I am going to have to do alterations. It's rather freeing actually, if I see something I like and they only have
it a size or so too large or too small I buy it anyway because hey, I have to alter it anyhow. NightMist doing a lot
of her own pattern drafting anymore. -- The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.

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Posted by Pati Cook on Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:13 PM    Post subject: Re: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Most of the patterns have "actual garment measurements" on the envelope, or at the beginning of the
instruction pages. Check there. Different companies and different styles within the same company will have different
measurements. <G> Remember that patterns are sized for a "B" cup. If you are larger, buy patterns for
tops/dresses by "high bust" measurement and alter for a full bust. For example I use a size 18 pattern, and
add 3" both in length and width to the fronts, (adding a dart to take up the length at the side seam) plus adding
to the side seams and sleeves to fit this strangely shaped body of mine. Best bet is to find a good basic, alter it to
fit, and then use it to fit other styles. Good luck and feel free to e-mail me directly if you need more help. Pati,
in Phx dogmom wrote: [quote:bbc1ab6c32]Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any
of y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size
indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on
this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful... TIA Dogmom [/quote:bbc1ab6c32]

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Posted by blackrosequilts on Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:09 PM    Post subject: Re: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Sandy Ellison wrote: [quote:1bcc0646a4]Ragmop/Sandy--Life's too short to use it up trying to sew clothing, IMO; besides,
I'm used to hemming everything... ;-D [/quote:1bcc0646a4] All I can say is, thank heavens for petite sizes in pants.
A. Short Rose, who *likes* her skirts long anyway -- blackrosequilts My train of thought left the station without me.
http://community.webshots.com/user/blackrosequilts 2005 BOMs: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/blackrosequilts/my_photos
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:11 PM    Post subject: Re: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Howdy! Light dawns: *see below* On 6/21/06 1:54 PM, in article xBgmg.9254$lp.3386@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net,
"Polly Esther" <mistercleen@mindspring.com> wrote: [quote:a74150bc2d]I will try to be brief and
unemotional. There is no such thing as standard with clothing pattern measurements. You can not be certain even that
if a Simplicity size 8 fits you that 'another design', same size, printed the same day will also fit. And (!) if you
actually read all the fine print in the instructions, sometimes they will give you a clue such as " two inches
ease" allowed. Whatever that means. It may mean that if you swell up like roadkill, the garment will fit. Maybe.
The only real solution is to make a garment from the pattern to test the size. [/quote:a74150bc2d] **This would explain
my Aunt Kay's wardrobe. She never got past the testing stage. Muslin launders well, tho', so she said.**
[quote:a74150bc2d]Our British friends call this test a 'muslin'. Even this test won't work unless you test with a fabric
that is very similar in stretch, as in: don't test with an old hunk of corduroy if you are going to make the real
garment from a fabric with a little or a lot of give. You can do this. It just takes more time and patience than it
should. Polly "dogmom" asked > Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--
do any of y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress
the size indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was
posted on this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful... [/quote:a74150bc2d]
Ragmop/Sandy--Life's too short to use it up trying to sew clothing, IMO; besides, I'm used to hemming
everything... ;-D

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Posted by Polly Esther on Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:54 PM    Post subject: Re: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

I will try to be brief and unemotional. There is no such thing as standard with clothing pattern measurements. You
can not be certain even that if a Simplicity size 8 fits you that 'another design', same size, printed the same day
will also fit. And (!) if you actually read all the fine print in the instructions, sometimes they will give you a
clue such as " two inches ease" allowed. Whatever that means. It may mean that if you swell up like
roadkill, the garment will fit. Maybe. The only real solution is to make a garment from the pattern to test the
size. Our British friends call this test a 'muslin'. Even this test won't work unless you test with a fabric that is
very similar in stretch, as in: don't test with an old hunk of corduroy if you are going to make the real garment from
a fabric with a little or a lot of give. You can do this. It just takes more time and patience than it should. Polly
"dogmom" asked > Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do
[quote:0108c5b519]any of y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If
I sew a dress the size indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the
link was posted on this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful...[/quote:0108c5b519]

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Posted by dogmom on Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:49 PM    Post subject: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any of y'all know where I can go to get the
measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size indicated by measurements on the
pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on this group but you guys know
everything, for which I am always so grateful... TIA Dogmom

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Posted by Susan Laity Price on Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:28 PM    Post subject: Re: OT -I'M KIND OF BACK

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Be thankful that your dry cleaner correctly treated your quilt. My friend's mother
had a smoke fire this spring. The restoration company took the prize winning quilt that my friend had made for her
mother. They said that they only washed and dried it but the quilt has faded and shrunk to the point of destroying it.
My friend told the insurance agent that the quilt was not replaceable because the fabric was no longer available but
she would remake the quilt with different fabric which would cost about $500. The person on the phone said she had never
heard of a quilt costing $500!!! My friend purchased everything for the new quilt and sent the bill to the insurance
company. She included new rotary blades and thread along with fabric for top, batting and backing. The total cost was
$521.00! She also sent them a copy of the magazine which featured the original quilt and directed them to a quilt store
in their area to see that good fabrics cost money. I need to tell my friend about the ozone room. Susan On Tue,
20 Jun 2006 19:19:18 -0400, "She in PA" <DJDrevna@comcast.net> wrote: [quote:bb1929c5ee]Hi guys
remember me, Well May 15th we had a fire in our kitchen that was the stove , microwave and a few cabinets. The smoke
from the plastic microwave went through the whole house through the air ducts. We had to move out for almost 4 weeks and
hire a restoration company. I fell trying to get a fire extinguisher from the neighbors and broke my nose. Blood was
gushing everywhere. I looked pretty bad for awhile, I don't look bad now it's healing well. Then a few weeks after that
I was in a store looking at spigots and tripped because of a flange on the bottom of a pole that the store should have
had covered up and bruised my rotator cuff. I am going for therapy for that. Next back to my house, the restoration
company it took 2 guys 2 days to paint a 12x14 room, they painted my dining room the wrong color, and stuccoed my
kitchen ceiling like a Mexican wall when it should have been stippled. Nothing was right and we fired them and moved
back into a filthy house and now are in the process of getting bids for the insurance company. We might end up in court
with the restoration company. My dear sweet hubby is trying his best to make the house livable. He cleaned ,painted and
hooked up the washer and dryer so I could wash our sheets and the cloths the dry cleaner didn't take. The dry cleaner is
really great he took every stitch of clothing, drapes, shoes, purses, and ALL my STASH. He cleaned an antique quilt I
have and brought it back because I needed it for a show I was involved in this past weekend and it is beautiful. He said
he put it in an ozone room. What ever that is? I won't be on for awhile I have to help get this house back in order. I
also have to rest a lot because of my Lupus. I was involved in a non-juried show this past weekend and the guilds had to
pay $250.00 to set up their quilts in a room to show. We were told that the views would vote on their favorite room then
next year that guild won't have to pay for their room. Our guild won viewers choice so we don't have to pay next year.
That is a good thing that has happened. Thank you everyone that sent me squishies for my 50th birthday. I greatly
appreciated them. They were a bright happy thing in the middle of my messy, burnt, house, and fragile hurt body. When I
get my machine back I will make something nice from them. My 50th birthday started the mess. My husband was going to
have a surprise party for me and put oil on the stove to make chicken wings, then called the preacher to talk to him
about my party and went downstairs so I didn't hear and forgot about the oil and it ignited. So, the squishies were
really great thanks everyone. She in PA [/quote:bb1929c5ee]

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Posted by TerriLee in WA on Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:27 PM    Post subject: Re: OT -I'M KIND OF BACK

She!!! How good to hear from you! Rest as much as you need, the house will get back to "normal" eventually.
Glad to know that your nose is healing and so is the house. Pop in when you can. (((Hugs))) -- TerriLee in WA (state)
"She in PA" <DJDrevna@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:q5qdnY3BaczqHwXZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:9b5de7ae1c]Hi guys remember me, Well May 15th we had a fire
in our kitchen that was the stove , microwave and a few cabinets. The smoke from the plastic microwave went through the
whole house through the air ducts. We had to move out for almost 4 weeks and hire a restoration company. I fell trying
to get a fire extinguisher from the neighbors and broke my nose. Blood was gushing everywhere. I looked pretty bad for
awhile, I don't look bad now it's healing well. Then a few weeks after that I was in a store looking at spigots and
tripped because of a flange on the bottom of a pole that the store should have had covered up and bruised my rotator
cuff. I am going for therapy for that. Next back to my house, the restoration company it took 2 guys 2 days to paint a
12x14 room, they painted my dining room the wrong color, and stuccoed my kitchen ceiling like a Mexican wall when it
should have been stippled. Nothing was right and we fired them and moved back into a filthy house and now are in the
process of getting bids for the insurance company. We might end up in court with the restoration company. My dear sweet
hubby is trying his best to make the house livable. He cleaned ,painted and hooked up the washer and dryer so I could
wash our sheets and the cloths the dry cleaner didn't take. The dry cleaner is really great he took every stitch of
clothing, drapes, shoes, purses, and ALL my STASH. He cleaned an antique quilt I have and brought it back because I
needed it for a show I was involved in this past weekend and it is beautiful. He said he put it in an ozone room. What
ever that is? I won't be on for awhile I have to help get this house back in order. I also have to rest a lot because of
my Lupus. I was involved in a non-juried show this past weekend and the guilds had to pay $250.00 to set up their quilts
in a room to show. We were told that the views would vote on their favorite room then next year that guild won't have to
pay for their room. Our guild won viewers choice so we don't have to pay next year. That is a good thing that has
happened. Thank you everyone that sent me squishies for my 50th birthday. I greatly appreciated them. They were a
bright happy thing in the middle of my messy, burnt, house, and fragile hurt body. When I get my machine back I will
make something nice from them. My 50th birthday started the mess. My husband was going to have a surprise party for me
and put oil on the stove to make chicken wings, then called the preacher to talk to him about my party and went
downstairs so I didn't hear and forgot about the oil and it ignited. So, the squishies were really great thanks
everyone. She in PA [/quote:9b5de7ae1c]

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Posted by Karen, Queen of Squishies on Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:52 PM    Post subject: Re: OT -I'M KIND OF BACK

She, if we were there, we would be your clean-up and organizer crew, and you could rest your weary body. Hugs to you,
and prayers for speedy and easy restoration. Hang in there, take it easy, things will get done. Karen, Queen of
Squishies [quote:285787894c]Hi guys remember me, Well May 15th we had a fire in our kitchen that was the stove ,
microwave and a few cabinets. The smoke from the plastic microwave went through the whole house through the air ducts.
We had to move out for almost 4 weeks and hire a restoration company. I fell trying to get a fire extinguisher from the
neighbors and broke my nose. Blood was gushing everywhere. I looked pretty bad for awhile, I don't look bad now it's
healing well. Then a few weeks after that I was in a store looking at spigots and tripped because of a flange on the
bottom of a pole that the store should have had covered up and bruised my rotator cuff. I am going for therapy for that.
Next back to my house, the restoration company it took 2 guys 2 days to paint a 12x14 room, they painted my dining room
the wrong color, and stuccoed my kitchen ceiling like a Mexican wall when it should have been stippled. Nothing was
right and we fired them and moved back into a filthy house and now are in the process of getting bids for the insurance
company. We might end up in court with the restoration company. My dear sweet hubby is trying his best to make the house
livable. He cleaned ,painted and hooked up the washer and dryer so I could wash our sheets and the cloths the dry
cleaner didn't take. The dry cleaner is really great he took every stitch of clothing, drapes, shoes, purses, and ALL my
STASH. He cleaned an antique quilt I have and brought it back because I needed it for a show I was involved in this past
weekend and it is beautiful. He said he put it in an ozone room. What ever that is? I won't be on for awhile I have to
help get this house back in order. I also have to rest a lot because of my Lupus. I was involved in a non-juried show
this past weekend and the guilds had to pay $250.00 to set up their quilts in a room to show. We were told that the
views would vote on their favorite room then next year that guild won't have to pay for their room. Our guild won
viewers choice so we don't have to pay next year. That is a good thing that has happened. Thank you everyone that sent
me squishies for my 50th birthday. I greatly appreciated them. They were a bright happy thing in the middle of my messy,
burnt, house, and fragile hurt body. When I get my machine back I will make something nice from them. My 50th birthday
started the mess. My husband was going to have a surprise party for me and put oil on the stove to make chicken wings,
then called the preacher to talk to him about my party and went downstairs so I didn't hear and forgot about the oil and
it ignited. So, the squishies were really great thanks everyone. She in PA [/quote:285787894c]

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Posted by Patti on Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:43 AM    Post subject: Re: OT -I'M KIND OF BACK

It's really good of you to pop in and set our minds at rest, about your (and the house's!) recovery. A catalogue of
disasters. Great to hear that there were some light moments, and that the end of the tunnel might be approaching. ..
In message <q5qdnY3BaczqHwXZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com>, She in PA <DJDrevna@comcast.net> writes
[quote:d755127085]Hi guys remember me, Well May 15th we had a fire in our kitchen that was the stove , microwave and a
few cabinets. The smoke from the plastic microwave went through the whole house through the air ducts. We had to move
out for almost 4 weeks and hire a restoration company. I fell trying to get a fire extinguisher from the neighbors and
broke my nose. Blood was gushing everywhere. I looked pretty bad for awhile, I don't look bad now it's healing well.
Then a few weeks after that I was in a store looking at spigots and tripped because of a flange on the bottom of a pole
that the store should have had covered up and bruised my rotator cuff. I am going for therapy for that. Next back to my
house, the restoration company it took 2 guys 2 days to paint a 12x14 room, they painted my dining room the wrong color,
and stuccoed my kitchen ceiling like a Mexican wall when it should have been stippled. Nothing was right and we fired
them and moved back into a filthy house and now are in the process of getting bids for the insurance company. We might
end up in court with the restoration company. My dear sweet hubby is trying his best to make the house livable. He
cleaned ,painted and hooked up the washer and dryer so I could wash our sheets and the cloths the dry cleaner didn't
take. The dry cleaner is really great he took every stitch of clothing, drapes, shoes, purses, and ALL my STASH. He
cleaned an antique quilt I have and brought it back because I needed it for a show I was involved in this past weekend
and it is beautiful. He said he put it in an ozone room. What ever that is? I won't be on for awhile I have to help get
this house back in order. I also have to rest a lot because of my Lupus. I was involved in a non-juried show this past
weekend and the guilds had to pay $250.00 to set up their quilts in a room to show. We were told that the views would
vote on their favorite room then next year that guild won't have to pay for their room. Our guild won viewers choice so
we don't have to pay next year. That is a good thing that has happened. Thank you everyone that sent me squishies for
my 50th birthday. I greatly appreciated them. They were a bright happy thing in the middle of my messy, burnt, house,
and fragile hurt body. When I get my machine back I will make something nice from them. My 50th birthday started the
mess. My husband was going to have a surprise party for me and put oil on the stove to make chicken wings, then called
the preacher to talk to him about my party and went downstairs so I didn't hear and forgot about the oil and it ignited.
So, the squishies were really great thanks everyone. She in PA [/quote:d755127085] -- Best Regards pat on the hill

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Posted by She in PA on Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:19 AM    Post subject: OT -I'M KIND OF BACK

Hi guys remember me, Well May 15th we had a fire in our kitchen that was the stove , microwave and a few cabinets. The
smoke from the plastic microwave went through the whole house through the air ducts. We had to move out for almost 4
weeks and hire a restoration company. I fell trying to get a fire extinguisher from the neighbors and broke my nose.
Blood was gushing everywhere. I looked pretty bad for awhile, I don't look bad now it's healing well. Then a few weeks
after that I was in a store looking at spigots and tripped because of a flange on the bottom of a pole that the store
should have had covered up and bruised my rotator cuff. I am going for therapy for that. Next back to my house, the
restoration company it took 2 guys 2 days to paint a 12x14 room, they painted my dining room the wrong color, and
stuccoed my kitchen ceiling like a Mexican wall when it should have been stippled. Nothing was right and we fired them
and moved back into a filthy house and now are in the process of getting bids for the insurance company. We might end
up in court with the restoration company. My dear sweet hubby is trying his best to make the house livable. He cleaned
,painted and hooked up the washer and dryer so I could wash our sheets and the cloths the dry cleaner didn't take. The
dry cleaner is really great he took every stitch of clothing, drapes, shoes, purses, and ALL my STASH. He cleaned an
antique quilt I have and brought it back because I needed it for a show I was involved in this past weekend and it is
beautiful. He said he put it in an ozone room. What ever that is? I won't be on for awhile I have to help get this
house back in order. I also have to rest a lot because of my Lupus. I was involved in a non-juried show this past
weekend and the guilds had to pay $250.00 to set up their quilts in a room to show. We were told that the views would
vote on their favorite room then next year that guild won't have to pay for their room. Our guild won viewers choice
so we don't have to pay next year. That is a good thing that has happened. Thank you everyone that sent me squishies
for my 50th birthday. I greatly appreciated them. They were a bright happy thing in the middle of my messy, burnt,
house, and fragile hurt body. When I get my machine back I will make something nice from them. My 50th birthday started
the mess. My husband was going to have a surprise party for me and put oil on the stove to make chicken wings, then
called the preacher to talk to him about my party and went downstairs so I didn't hear and forgot about the oil and it
ignited. So, the squishies were really great thanks everyone. She in PA

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Posted by Hanne Gottliebsen on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:19 PM    Post subject: Re: Dead irons

Good advice on cutting the cord of, but do it close to the appliance - making it nearly impossible to reattach. Hanne
in London - Glad nothing happened! Mary wrote: [quote:4f882bda21]Several years ago I had an iron commit suicide --
kind of. I was standing at the ironing board ironing clothing, and while I was ironing a shirt FLAMES shot out the back
of the iron! I immediately carried the iron to the kitchen sink (jerking the cord out of the plug), and dropped it in.
Naturally, the plug was jerked out of the outlet, which was good since I poured water over the iron to put out the
flames. After the iron had cooled I carried it straight to the trash. I have NO idea why it happened, but was glad
that the absolute rule in my house is NEVER to leave an unattended iron plugged in NO MATTER WHAT, even if it is turned
off!!! If the phone rings, unplug the iron, and if there are children or dogs or cats in the house, carry the iron with
you to answer the phone. By the way, if you have an unsafe electric appliance, it is good practice to cut the cord off
before tossing the appliance into the trash. There are people who take appliances out of the trash to use, and I figure
that if the thing might be dangerous, the dumpster divers will have to re-attach a cord in order to get the thing to
work again. (Three years ago I had a TV that turned itself ON when I was in the next room, and in the week I still had
it before cutting off its cord and having my brother carry it to the trash and helping me shop for a new TV, I kept it
unplugged unless I was actually watching TV.) Darlene wrote: A friend of mine would routinely have her Rowenta irons
die on her. She's a prolific quilter, and I think she probably worked them to death vbg>. A few years ago she bought
her new iron from a chain store that offers the option of purchasing an additional waranty, which she did. She hasn't
bought a new iron since! When it dies she just returns it to the store for a new one. Pretty clever, huh? When I
replace my Rowenta, that's what I will do. I've dropped it, and it rattles and spits for me, but as long as I don't over
fill it , it still works like a charm. Maybe if I "drop" it again I'll have an excuse! Darlene in Pa
[/quote:4f882bda21]

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Posted by Mary on Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:12 PM    Post subject: Re: Dead irons

Several years ago I had an iron commit suicide -- kind of. I was standing at the ironing board ironing clothing, and
while I was ironing a shirt FLAMES shot out the back of the iron! I immediately carried the iron to the kitchen sink
(jerking the cord out of the plug), and dropped it in. Naturally, the plug was jerked out of the outlet, which was good
since I poured water over the iron to put out the flames. After the iron had cooled I carried it straight to the trash.
I have NO idea why it happened, but was glad that the absolute rule in my house is NEVER to leave an unattended iron
plugged in NO MATTER WHAT, even if it is turned off!!! If the phone rings, unplug the iron, and if there are children
or dogs or cats in the house, carry the iron with you to answer the phone. By the way, if you have an unsafe electric
appliance, it is good practice to cut the cord off before tossing the appliance into the trash. There are people who
take appliances out of the trash to use, and I figure that if the thing might be dangerous, the dumpster divers will
have to re-attach a cord in order to get the thing to work again. (Three years ago I had a TV that turned itself ON when
I was in the next room, and in the week I still had it before cutting off its cord and having my brother carry it to the
trash and helping me shop for a new TV, I kept it unplugged unless I was actually watching TV.) Darlene wrote:
[quote:7384375a18]A friend of mine would routinely have her Rowenta irons die on her. She's a prolific quilter, and I
think she probably worked them to death vbg>. A few years ago she bought her new iron from a chain store that offers
the option of purchasing an additional waranty, which she did. She hasn't bought a new iron since! When it dies she
just returns it to the store for a new one. Pretty clever, huh? When I replace my Rowenta, that's what I will do. I've
dropped it, and it rattles and spits for me, but as long as I don't over fill it , it still works like a charm. Maybe if
I "drop" it again I'll have an excuse! Darlene in Pa[/quote:7384375a18]

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Posted by teleflora on Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:04 AM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

Ok, I'm exhausted just reading your list. This is why I stopped with one kid and was sooooo thankful she didn't like
to sweat! I'd have been berzerk running around like that to different practices. Ballet and piano were bad enough!
So you live in 'Derry? Cindy >HUGE Stephen King Fan! "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net>
wrote in message news:C160E5DF.60F19%cherylisaak@adelphia.net... [quote:91889a740b] So, let me describe my week, so
far - a thankfully light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting of the American Jewish
Genealogical Society. AND both children are playing travel hockey. So - Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop
him off for his flight. Drove back to Londonderry and went looking for "hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for
DS. Cell phone rings - it's DH. He forgot to remove his Swiss Army knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to
airport, pick up knife, drive home for about an hour. Load truck with DS's gear, go to Dunkin Donuts for an egg and
cheese sandwich. Go to HS, pick up DS, drive to Hookset NH for "Captain's Practice" for the high school team.
Go shop, get bored shopping go back to rink to wait. Neighbor, who's son also plays hockey, offers DS a ride home. Go
back toward home, pick up the hoodies I had held from interrupted trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also
find under armor for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been
watching DD. Thursday - Drive north to Manchester; first stop - pick up supplies for DD's Halloween school project.
Pick up DD's travel team jerseys from Silver Graphics (they do all the sewing and such for our league). Drop off DS's
coat for stitching. Drive to Nashua to pick up DH's magazine at Barnes and Nobles (gee how did those extra books get in
there). Stop at grocery store for basic supplies. Go home. Drive to HS, get DS, drive home, load truck with both sets of
hockey gear, drive to DD's school. Have fun surprising his old teacher and get DD. Get fast food. Drive to rink for back
to back practices. Hand out jerseys to girls team. Watch little girls float on air as they see their (last) name
emblazoned on a travel "sweater" for the very first time. Finish the ground work for a door plate for DD's
team. Meet with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best hotel in Lake Placid for tournament in Feb. Help
DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45 PM. Haul stinky gears in house for washing. Done
Friday - easy day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the
kids and a salad for me DELIVERED Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until
11 AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening their names on prior to big game at
Monarchs next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and helmets) for a quick snack of soup and
bread at Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5 hours. Work on door sign. Then best buddy
and DD want to stay for public skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her gear out of truck to make room for
his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one
of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of
practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home
- about 9:30 PM. Today - I'll let you know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30
minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into his "game head". I do have a parent bringing him home. Monday's
errand list is growing! And I need a babysitter two nights next week. Cheryl [/quote:91889a740b]

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Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:21 PM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

On 10/22/06 12:45 PM, in article C161184F.1460%egirl22@verizon.net, "ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net>
wrote: [quote:373a09b83e]On 10/22/06 9:09 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: So,
let me describe my week, so far - a thankfully light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting
of the American Jewish Genealogical Society. AND both children are playing travel hockey. Interesting. So -
Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his flight. Drove back to Londonderry and went looking for
"hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone rings - it's DH. He forgot to remove his Swiss Army
knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up Lucky that he remembered tix, id, & head.... Next
time - just leave him with a self-addressed stamped envelope to drop the "forbidden" items in the psot and
save you the trip. Poor baby. had held from interrupted trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find
under armor for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been
watching DD. Glad you got the turtleneck for yourself. *snip* with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best
hotel in Lake Placid for tournament in Feb. Help DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45
PM. Haul stinky gears in house for washing. Done Wish we could think of a Lake Placid place - but our crew generally
stays on the training campus - or last time, rented some condos. We know where to stay but I still needed to explain
that you don't want to[/quote:373a09b83e] walk the 10 blocks from the Hilton if it is snowing..... [quote:373a09b83e]
Why are you hauling the stinky gear????? You haul sticks for little one - little one must haul own gear. Big own
definitely must haul own gear... Can take leg pads out - or do the I'm cool throw over shoulder goalie thing. If he
didn't need the head so bad, he'd have done it. He swore he was going[/quote:373a09b83e] to burst otherwise and the
toilet sure needed an air out after. [quote:373a09b83e]But they've got to haul their own gear....Baking soda.. But the
big bag at Costco. Cup in every wash load. Your day sounds like me - and now you can laugh - as DH left his stinkin'
ref gear to fester in the bag for a few days - for the 3rd week in a row - and first thing this morning -I'm sticking my
hands in that wet, smelly, mess to wash it all - as we call it - the full monty - including the ref pants with pads
built in. At least there were 3 other towel rolls full of the other sets of used understuff (leggings, undersarmor long
sleeve shirts) and man does that synthetic hold some stench. I should have stock in Arm & Hammer (I do swear by it
- added to the detergent). [/quote:373a09b83e] I use vinegar - the bulk white Heinz. [quote:373a09b83e] Friday - easy
day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the kids and a
salad for me DELIVERED Yeah for you! I'm getting stuff ready to send your next stitchin' package. [/quote:373a09b83e]
Tonight, I mi [quote:373a09b83e] Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until 11
AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening their names on prior to big game at Monarchs
next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and helmets) for a quick snack of soup and bread at
Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5 hours. It's so cute when the little ones come in
and out all dressed except their skates. There's a guy on DH's prior team (who skated on our team when we had one
together) that does that. We're always hysterical about "Tom the Mite" . He's a short guy, anyhow - and it's
a riot as he comes racing into the rink like a Mite - in all his gear, save the skates. I think the room is merciless -
asking if his mommy had to dress him, or the wife - or his 5 year old. Although, he grew up playing youth hockey in
Ohio - so maybe it's a holdover. [/quote:373a09b83e] I'll take pictures. Or you could consider coming up in Dec when she
has a pre-game at the Monarchs. [quote:373a09b83e]Work on door sign. Then best buddy and DD want to stay for public
skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her OK - this is when I'm questioning your sanity - you stayed for
them to public skate - after 2 practices????? [/quote:373a09b83e] DD and BestBuddy only get to see each other at
practices - we live in different towns and they are so good for each other. And they have so much fun on the ice.
Yesterday, they were easily the best skaters out there on hockey skates excluding the "ice guards". There is
one older man that comes most weeks. We all think he must have been a competitive figure skater at one time; he is pure
poetry to watch. [quote:373a09b83e] gear out of truck to make room for his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a
different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with
them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals
with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home - about 9:30 PM. Long day - long practice.
We used to do 2 hour practices when we could get the ice - alternating with the 90 min blocks. It's definitely a get
tired full practice. But, it does let you get a lot done. Today - I'll let you know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on
at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30 minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into his "game head". I do have a
parent bringing him home. Hmmm - tough day. Tell him to start getting his game face on en-route, and just deal with
getting there a little later. When he's a pro and has someone paying him to play then he won't have to compromise, but
given all your driving he should be able to deal. When we're heading out to only get there 20 min ahead - DH does the
game-face music in the car. I just don't talk to him. Oh, the game face music will be on in the car, but there is some
team[/quote:373a09b83e] building going in the locker room. [quote:373a09b83e] DH is armbanding U-18s right now - that
was the 12:40 - 2:40 game, (35 mi south near Potomac Mills) then he comes home - should be here about 3:30 (maybe)
'cause that rink has no showers for the refs (it's an awful ref room - in the coaches equipment/locker room. Alsways
stinks like old gear - in the cages. And there are disgusting carpetted "becnhes" to sit on. The women - we
usually get the figure skater pro's room - has a little couch, is clean, etc. The he's doing a house midget double -
other end of town - up in Rockville (30 mi? North) starting at 5:50. And I think I'm supposed to go and do ref evals on
the other sheet. So, we'll be out of there around 9:30. Lucky you! Monday's errand list is growing! And I need a
babysitter two nights next week. Sounds way too busy. I'm pissed - just got an e-mail from our patio/deck builder -
that our bank returned the last payment check (which was bout 7% of the bill - which we'd paid all in cash quite on
time). First the guy put the check thru the wash. Then we gave him a new one. Then they lost that. Then someone came
and got yet another one. I'm thinking they held that a few days - but with our credit union we've had some issues. I
kept checking the account, no problem - and on Tuesday I moved some money into DH's account (shopping ?) and a couple of
hours later replaced the money. The account doesn't let you transfer money out - more than the available balance - so
if the check was in process it would shouw a lower balance than the items that have gone through. No such thing. And,
of course, within hours the balance was back up. So, now I've got to go fight with the bank, and get some big certified
check - and pay the $25 to the builder (that we're a little annoyed with anyhow) and get back the $20 the bank deducted.
I just can't figure out how when there was at least $1000 more than the check in question in the account they can bounce
a check, and deduct the fee. [/quote:373a09b83e] What a PITA [quote:373a09b83e] Babysitter - hope it's for fun nights!
[/quote:373a09b83e] Yah right, they are nights when ice time for him starts at her bedtime. [quote:373a09b83e]I'll be
getting our planting all done - the HOA just sent us a nastygram - I have 25 more days to get all my plant containers
cleaned up, and the mulch (under a tarp) removed. We're bad. I'm hoping for a garden day or three next
week....[/quote:373a09b83e] Cheryl

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Posted by Pat P on Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:05 PM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:C160E5DF.60F19%cherylisaak@adelphia.net... [quote:dd90fbc106] So, let me describe my week, so far - a thankfully
light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting of the American Jewish Genealogical Society.
AND both children are playing travel hockey. So - Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his
flight. Drove back to Londonderry and went looking for "hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone
rings - it's DH. He forgot to remove his Swiss Army knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up
knife, drive home for about an hour. Load truck with DS's gear, go to Dunkin Donuts for an egg and cheese sandwich. Go
to HS, pick up DS, drive to Hookset NH for "Captain's Practice" for the high school team. Go shop, get bored
shopping go back to rink to wait. Neighbor, who's son also plays hockey, offers DS a ride home. Go back toward home,
pick up the hoodies I had held from interrupted trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find under armor
for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been watching DD.
Thursday - Drive north to Manchester; first stop - pick up supplies for DD's Halloween school project. Pick up DD's
travel team jerseys from Silver Graphics (they do all the sewing and such for our league). Drop off DS's coat for
stitching. Drive to Nashua to pick up DH's magazine at Barnes and Nobles (gee how did those extra books get in there).
Stop at grocery store for basic supplies. Go home. Drive to HS, get DS, drive home, load truck with both sets of hockey
gear, drive to DD's school. Have fun surprising his old teacher and get DD. Get fast food. Drive to rink for back to
back practices. Hand out jerseys to girls team. Watch little girls float on air as they see their (last) name
emblazoned on a travel "sweater" for the very first time. Finish the ground work for a door plate for DD's
team. Meet with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best hotel in Lake Placid for tournament in Feb. Help
DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45 PM. Haul stinky gears in house for washing. Done
Friday - easy day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the
kids and a salad for me DELIVERED Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until
11 AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening their names on prior to big game at
Monarchs next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and helmets) for a quick snack of soup and
bread at Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5 hours. Work on door sign. Then best buddy
and DD want to stay for public skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her gear out of truck to make room for
his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one
of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of
practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home
- about 9:30 PM. Today - I'll let you know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30
minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into his "game head". I do have a parent bringing him home. Monday's
errand list is growing! And I need a babysitter two nights next week. Cheryl [/quote:dd90fbc106] Phew - thank the Lord
we don`t do all that any more!!! I`m worn out reading it! In our case it was when DS was in the Sea Cadets Band,
which meant chasing all over the country with them - we set up and ran their canteen, too! It was three or four nights
a week and Sundays cadets and band practice - two nights a week trumpet lessons for DS, and wherever the Band was
doing displays and band contests, particularly in the summer. In between (???) we used to organise discos for the kids
AND for the adults and fund-raising for instruments and gear for the band. I can`t imagine how we survived several
years of this - but we loved it! Oh yes - I used to have a full time job and breed Siamese, too, which meant half a
dozen cats and sometimes a dozen or more kittens to look after ( the record was 17!!!) - plus any visiting Queens who
came to stud!!! There MUST have been 36 hours in a day at that time! Pat

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Posted by ellice on Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:45 PM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

On 10/22/06 9:09 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: [quote:6cfe5d75cc] So, let me
describe my week, so far - a thankfully light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting of the
American Jewish Genealogical Society. AND both children are playing travel hockey. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Interesting.
[quote:6cfe5d75cc] So - Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his flight. Drove back to Londonderry
and went looking for "hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone rings - it's DH. He forgot to
remove his Swiss Army knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Lucky that
he remembered tix, id, & head.... Next time - just leave him with a self-addressed stamped envelope to drop the
"forbidden" items in the psot and save you the trip. Poor baby. [quote:6cfe5d75cc]had held from interrupted
trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find under armor for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for
me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been watching DD. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Glad you got the turtleneck for
yourself. [quote:6cfe5d75cc] *snip* with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best hotel in Lake Placid for
tournament in Feb. Help DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45 PM. Haul stinky gears in
house for washing. Done [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Wish we could think of a Lake Placid place - but our crew generally stays on
the training campus - or last time, rented some condos. Why are you hauling the stinky gear????? You haul sticks for
little one - little one must haul own gear. Big own definitely must haul own gear... Can take leg pads out - or do the
I'm cool throw over shoulder goalie thing. But they've got to haul their own gear....Baking soda.. But the big bag at
Costco. Cup in every wash load. Your day sounds like me - and now you can laugh - as DH left his stinkin' ref gear to
fester in the bag for a few days - for the 3rd week in a row - and first thing this morning -I'm sticking my hands in
that wet, smelly, mess to wash it all - as we call it - the full monty - including the ref pants with pads built in. At
least there were 3 other towel rolls full of the other sets of used understuff (leggings, undersarmor long sleeve
shirts) and man does that synthetic hold some stench. I should have stock in Arm & Hammer (I do swear by it - added
to the detergent). [quote:6cfe5d75cc] Friday - easy day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did
laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the kids and a salad for me DELIVERED [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Yeah for you! I'm
getting stuff ready to send your next stitchin' package. [quote:6cfe5d75cc] Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's
first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until 11 AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening
their names on prior to big game at Monarchs next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and
helmets) for a quick snack of soup and bread at Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5
hours. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] It's so cute when the little ones come in and out all dressed except their skates. There's a
guy on DH's prior team (who skated on our team when we had one together) that does that. We're always hysterical about
"Tom the Mite" . He's a short guy, anyhow - and it's a riot as he comes racing into the rink like a Mite - in
all his gear, save the skates. I think the room is merciless - asking if his mommy had to dress him, or the wife - or
his 5 year old. Although, he grew up playing youth hockey in Ohio - so maybe it's a holdover. [quote:6cfe5d75cc]Work
on door sign. Then best buddy and DD want to stay for public skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her
[/quote:6cfe5d75cc] OK - this is when I'm questioning your sanity - you stayed for them to public skate - after 2
practices????? [quote:6cfe5d75cc]gear out of truck to make room for his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a
different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with
them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals
with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home - about 9:30 PM. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Long day
- long practice. We used to do 2 hour practices when we could get the ice - alternating with the 90 min blocks. It's
definitely a get tired full practice. But, it does let you get a lot done. [quote:6cfe5d75cc]Today - I'll let you
know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30 minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into
his "game head". I do have a parent bringing him home. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Hmmm - tough day. Tell him to
start getting his game face on en-route, and just deal with getting there a little later. When he's a pro and has
someone paying him to play then he won't have to compromise, but given all your driving he should be able to deal. When
we're heading out to only get there 20 min ahead - DH does the game-face music in the car. I just don't talk to him.
DH is armbanding U-18s right now - that was the 12:40 - 2:40 game, (35 mi south near Potomac Mills) then he comes home
- should be here about 3:30 (maybe) 'cause that rink has no showers for the refs (it's an awful ref room - in the
coaches equipment/locker room. Alsways stinks like old gear - in the cages. And there are disgusting carpetted
"becnhes" to sit on. The women - we usually get the figure skater pro's room - has a little couch, is clean,
etc. The he's doing a house midget double - other end of town - up in Rockville (30 mi? North) starting at 5:50. And I
think I'm supposed to go and do ref evals on the other sheet. So, we'll be out of there around 9:30.
[quote:6cfe5d75cc]Monday's errand list is growing! And I need a babysitter two nights next week. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc]
Sounds way too busy. I'm pissed - just got an e-mail from our patio/deck builder - that our bank returned the last
payment check (which was bout 7% of the bill - which we'd paid all in cash quite on time). First the guy put the check
thru the wash. Then we gave him a new one. Then they lost that. Then someone came and got yet another one. I'm
thinking they held that a few days - but with our credit union we've had some issues. I kept checking the account, no
problem - and on Tuesday I moved some money into DH's account (shopping ?) and a couple of hours later replaced the
money. The account doesn't let you transfer money out - more than the available balance - so if the check was in
process it would shouw a lower balance than the items that have gone through. No such thing. And, of course, within
hours the balance was back up. So, now I've got to go fight with the bank, and get some big certified check - and pay
the $25 to the builder (that we're a little annoyed with anyhow) and get back the $20 the bank deducted. I just can't
figure out how when there was at least $1000 more than the check in question in the account they can bounce a check, and
deduct the fee. Babysitter - hope it's for fun nights! I'll be getting our planting all done - the HOA just sent us a
nastygram - I have 25 more days to get all my plant containers cleaned up, and the mulch (under a tarp) removed. We're
bad. Ellice

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Posted by Lucille on Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:28 PM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:C160E5DF.60F19%cherylisaak@adelphia.net... [quote:1a9a6fff1a] So, let me describe my week, so far - a thankfully
light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting of the American Jewish Genealogical Society.
AND both children are playing travel hockey. So - Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his
flight. Drove back to Londonderry and went looking for "hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone
rings - it's DH. He forgot to remove his Swiss Army knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up
knife, drive home for about an hour. Load truck with DS's gear, go to Dunkin Donuts for an egg and cheese sandwich. Go
to HS, pick up DS, drive to Hookset NH for "Captain's Practice" for the high school team. Go shop, get bored
shopping go back to rink to wait. Neighbor, who's son also plays hockey, offers DS a ride home. Go back toward home,
pick up the hoodies I had held from interrupted trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find under armor
for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been watching DD.
Thursday - Drive north to Manchester; first stop - pick up supplies for DD's Halloween school project. Pick up DD's
travel team jerseys from Silver Graphics (they do all the sewing and such for our league). Drop off DS's coat for
stitching. Drive to Nashua to pick up DH's magazine at Barnes and Nobles (gee how did those extra books get in there).
Stop at grocery store for basic supplies. Go home. Drive to HS, get DS, drive home, load truck with both sets of hockey
gear, drive to DD's school. Have fun surprising his old teacher and get DD. Get fast food. Drive to rink for back to
back practices. Hand out jerseys to girls team. Watch little girls float on air as they see their (last) name
emblazoned on a travel "sweater" for the very first time. Finish the ground work for a door plate for DD's
team. Meet with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best hotel in Lake Placid for tournament in Feb. Help
DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45 PM. Haul stinky gears in house for washing. Done
Friday - easy day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the
kids and a salad for me DELIVERED Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until
11 AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening their names on prior to big game at
Monarchs next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and helmets) for a quick snack of soup and
bread at Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5 hours. Work on door sign. Then best buddy
and DD want to stay for public skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her gear out of truck to make room for
his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one
of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of
practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home
- about 9:30 PM. Today - I'll let you know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30
minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into his "game head". I do have a parent bringing him home. Monday's
errand list is growing! And I need a babysitter two nights next week. Cheryl [/quote:1a9a6fff1a] And what are you
going to do in your spare time???? lol Isn't Marshall's the coolest place to shop? I was there yesterday and found
several goodies, none of which I needed. Lucille [quote:1a9a6fff1a] [/quote:1a9a6fff1a]

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Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:09 PM    Post subject: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

So, let me describe my week, so far - a thankfully light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the
meeting of the American Jewish Genealogical Society. AND both children are playing travel hockey. So - Wednesday, I
drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his flight. Drove back to Londonderry and went looking for
"hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone rings - it's DH. He forgot to remove his Swiss Army
knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up knife, drive home for about an hour. Load truck with
DS's gear, go to Dunkin Donuts for an egg and cheese sandwich. Go to HS, pick up DS, drive to Hookset NH for
"Captain's Practice" for the high school team. Go shop, get bored shopping go back to rink to wait. Neighbor,
who's son also plays hockey, offers DS a ride home. Go back toward home, pick up the hoodies I had held from interrupted
trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find under armor for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for
me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been watching DD. Thursday - Drive north to Manchester; first stop -
pick up supplies for DD's Halloween school project. Pick up DD's travel team jerseys from Silver Graphics (they do all
the sewing and such for our league). Drop off DS's coat for stitching. Drive to Nashua to pick up DH's magazine at
Barnes and Nobles (gee how did those extra books get in there). Stop at grocery store for basic supplies. Go home. Drive
to HS, get DS, drive home, load truck with both sets of hockey gear, drive to DD's school. Have fun surprising his old
teacher and get DD. Get fast food. Drive to rink for back to back practices. Hand out jerseys to girls team. Watch
little girls float on air as they see their (last) name emblazoned on a travel "sweater" for the very first
time. Finish the ground work for a door plate for DD's team. Meet with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over
best hotel in Lake Placid for tournament in Feb. Help DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about
2:45 PM. Haul stinky gears in house for washing. Done Friday - easy day - never left the house. Girl friend came over
for coffee, did laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the kids and a salad for me DELIVERED Saturday - leave home at
8:45 AM for DD's first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until 11 AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect
jerseys for screening their names on prior to big game at Monarchs next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus
skates, gloves and helmets) for a quick snack of soup and bread at Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel
team - for 1.5 hours. Work on door sign. Then best buddy and DD want to stay for public skate. Finally leave rink at
3:30. Drive home. Get her gear out of truck to make room for his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a different,
further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with them. Leave,
go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals with DD.
Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home - about 9:30 PM. Today - I'll let you know! She's on
ice at 4:30 PM, he's on at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30 minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into his "game
head". I do have a parent bringing him home. Monday's errand list is growing! And I need a babysitter two nights
next week. Cheryl

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View entire thread: Helllloooooooooooooo?
Posted by Lucille on Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:33 PM    Post subject: Re: Helllloooooooooooooo?

"ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C161236C.1477%egirl22@verizon.net...
[quote:4a4fb4e532]On 10/22/06 11:02 AM, "Lucille" <lzolty@adelphia.net> wrote: "ellice"
<egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message *big snip* Sorry if you were offended - not meant to be. Don't laugh but
one of my biggest problems is finding clothes that are appropriate for a 70 year old when you wear a size 2 or 3. Just
picture a silver haired lady dressed as a teeny bopper and you'll see what I mean. I know, a lot of you are thinking
"I should be lucky enough to have that problem," but it is sometimes a challenge to find conservative clothes
in my size. Casual isn't too big a deal because I live mostly in jeans and t-shirts, but dressy can be a pain. My
frined who owns the LNS - her helper is a lovely, little tiny woman (and one of the best finishers I know). When she
moved away - that's how I started working in the shop - when she moved back - well, she really needs to be in the shop.
Anyhow - you're probably even bigger than her - she's about 4'10", and also a size 2 - like a little bird.
[/quote:4a4fb4e532] That's me, a little bird. Of course some people think that bird will grow up to be an eagle. lol
And she definitely [quote:4a4fb4e532]dresses a lot in jeans - but it's cute. [/quote:4a4fb4e532] Cute! Like a little
kid, or a puppy ??? At least down in S Fla there should [quote:4a4fb4e532]be a lot of shops that carry the tiny petite
sizes. [/quote:4a4fb4e532] Port Saint Lucie isn't really South Florida. It's St. Lucie County and South Florida only
goes up to Palm Beach County. A very large portion of the population in this area is Hispanic and few of the women are
petite and the stores mostly know that. I found a much better selection of clothing when I lived in New York because
lots of the stores catered to Oriental women, and they are often petite. [quote:4a4fb4e532]That's why it's such fun
to shop. It's like a treasure hunt. I bet. And I'm jealous. I'd be happy to be a 10 again. Thrilled. I'm hoping by
next spring - though with this last week of definitely not Weight Watchers keeping track, and not hitting the gym
either, well.... [/quote:4a4fb4e532] Good luck with the diet. My husband was on a diet for all of his life and I had
to do much of the cooking, so I know how difficult it can be. I was just lucky and when it came time to pick my genes,
I chose my father's small boned family instead of my mother's mostly chubby family. Wasn't that smart of me!!!! LOL
Lucille [quote:4a4fb4e532] ps--Just in case, I do know that genes aren't something you can choose.[/quote:4a4fb4e532]

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View entire thread: not needlework, but still a happy dance
Posted by Anonymous on Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:36 AM    Post subject: Re: not needlework, but still a happy dance

LOL yes, we do this annually and it goes out with the Christmas cards. Mother-in-law doesn't like the fun/goofy
pictures, so this year is just for her. There will be NO MORE formal pictures after this year....every year will have a
different theme to it....we are shooting for Civil War for next year's picture. ellice wrote: [quote:aa915ceb65]On
10/6/06 10:03 AM, "off kilter quilter" <spamfree@somewherequiet.net wrote: This is why I haven't been
able to get to my cross-stich charts and such....had to get these finished before I start any major new project.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=3110&.dnm=e99are2.jpg &.src=ph Wow - that's a great
red! And the quilt looks good, too! Guess you're doing a family picture? Larisa, ready for a clothing break, but
sitll have to squeeze some things in before the holidays Well, looks like you deserve to do what you want!
ellice[/quote:aa915ceb65]

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Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:53 AM    Post subject: Re: not needlework, but still a happy dance

On 10/7/06 1:19 PM, in article C14D59E3.10FF%egirl22@verizon.net, "ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:8054f8013f]On 10/6/06 10:08 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: On 10/6/06
10:03 AM, in article fNqdnT8zO7i5_7vYnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@adelphia.com, "off kilter quilter"
spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote: This is why I haven't been able to get to my cross-stich charts and such....had
to get these finished before I start any major new project.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=3110&.dnm=e99are2.jp g &.src=ph Larisa, ready for a
clothing break, but sitll have to squeeze some things in before the holidays You guys are going to look so good! One of
these days I have to post a family shot or at least some kid shots! I sent a few folks a picture I took of DD in her new
hockey jersey; she looks so tiny in it. Cheryl Not so tiny, and definitely sweet expression! ellice Some days, I
can't believe she's mine![/quote:8054f8013f] Cheryl

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Posted by ellice on Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:11 PM    Post subject: Re: not needlework, but still a happy dance

On 10/6/06 10:03 AM, "off kilter quilter" <spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote: [quote:5811d2a9f3]This
is why I haven't been able to get to my cross-stich charts and such....had to get these finished before I start any
major new project. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=3110&.dnm=e99are2.jpg &.src=ph
[/quote:5811d2a9f3] Wow - that's a great red! And the quilt looks good, too! Guess you're doing a family picture?
[quote:5811d2a9f3]Larisa, ready for a clothing break, but sitll have to squeeze some things in before the holidays
[/quote:5811d2a9f3] Well, looks like you deserve to do what you want! ellice

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View entire thread: not needlework, but still a happy dance
Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:08 PM    Post subject: Re: not needlework, but still a happy dance

On 10/6/06 10:03 AM, in article fNqdnT8zO7i5_7vYnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@adelphia.com, "off kilter quilter"
<spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote: [quote:0564b054d0]This is why I haven't been able to get to my cross-stich
charts and such....had to get these finished before I start any major new project.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=3110&.dnm=e99are2.jpg &.src=ph Larisa, ready for a
clothing break, but sitll have to squeeze some things in before the holidays You guys are going to look so
good![/quote:0564b054d0] One of these days I have to post a family shot or at least some kid shots! I sent a few folks
a picture I took of DD in her new hockey jersey; she looks so tiny in it. Cheryl

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View entire thread: not needlework, but still a happy dance
Posted by off kilter quilter on Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:03 PM    Post subject: not needlework, but still a happy dance

This is why I haven't been able to get to my cross-stich charts and such....had to get these finished before I start
any major new project. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=3110&.dnm=e99are2.jpg&.src=ph
Larisa, ready for a clothing break, but sitll have to squeeze some things in before the holidays

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View entire thread: OT: Gun control in Canada and Dawson College.
Posted by tegan57@gmail.com on Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:29 AM    Post subject: Re: OT: Vissitudes of hunting

Tia Mary wrote: [quote:950755c6ce]Karen C - California wrote: Here again, you're making the assumption that someone has
to spend a lot of time and money on The Hunt because they live a long way from the hunting grounds. ........... Even
DHs family, who live in the middle of nowhere, MN and could go out the back door and drop a deer, need to prepare. I'm
sure I could do the research and show that the majority of hunters spend money in preparation. I don't know if people
have to spend a *lot* of time or money. What money they do spend would probably buy a nice chicken! [/quote:950755c6ce]
And I'm sure I could show you research that says they don't. And possibly yes, what money they do spend could have
bought a nice chicken. But compare the cost of the gas to drive as much as 25 (or more) miles to buy that nice chicken
versus the cost of the shells for Dad's rifle and the time to go out and track dinner down. Which is cheaper? As near as
I can tell, shells or bullets kept in a dry environment will keep and remain usable for years. So the ammo that Dad
bought several years ago would still be usable. The gun is a family heirloom, so no expense there. Oh, maybe the dollars
spent on the bright orange (I am NOT a target) clothing could be counted as excess but no, even the argument of spending
money isn't as valid as you think. I know, you are argueing an overall believe against hunting and I'm argueing
specifics, but as I said, it's not all black and white. Tegan

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View entire thread: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top
Posted by MargW on Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:27 AM    Post subject: Re: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top

tegan57@gmail.com wrote: [quote:a4265540eb]Thank you, Tara. Someday I'll learn to just google stuff myself. I don't know
why I never think to do that. Frustration, I think. Seems like everytime I run across a word in a foreign language that
I can't figure out, it's one of the few words Babelfish can't tell me what it is! So that tends to just carry over to
other things after a while. Thanks for the link though, cause I think I see shopping in my future.... Tegan Tara D
wrote: Try http://www.tilley.com/ They are know for making very durable travel clothing. Light, quick drying, long
lasting. On 11 Sep 2006 07:06:21 -0700, "tegan57@gmail.com" <tegan57@gmail.com wrote: Jim, While reading
the most recent Kathy Reichs novel, she mentioned several things that sent me screaming to the nearest Southerner to get
answers to, but no one knew what a Tilley hat was. Wanna explain it for me? Tegan F.James Cripwell wrote: I am not
sure if my experience has any bearing, but here goes. I had two Tilley hats, which I used the way Tilley hats are
supposed to be used; for gardening, out jogging, at the cottage, on the lake, etc. Though they were washed regularly,
they got to be pretty disgusting. I gave them both identical Oxyclean treatment. One came out not too bad; the other
has yellow stains all over it, and I cannot get them out. Snicker - We both have Tilley hats (in fact I think almost
everyone in[/quote:a4265540eb] the family has one). When the DH's Tilley finally rotted through on the sweat band, they
replaced it with no questions - they really do honour the lifetime guarantee. I also love their crinkle cotton
shorts and tops. I have a pair of their crinkle cotton shorts which must be ten years old, and are only now starting
to look a little worse for wear. I also have a Tilleysilk outfit which rolls up for packing, as well as several Tilley
tops (crinkle cotton and Liberty of London cotton), and a pair of crinkle cotton capris. The DH has two pairs of
Tilley shorts,two Tilley shirts(plus undies and socks). Since I live close to Toronto I can go to the main Tilley
store, and also hit the Tilley year-end clearance in August. Now, the total bill on all of the above would be more
than I would usually pay, but I bought it over about 10 years, and since the stuff wears like iron, I know I'll get
years, and years of wear, so I actually feel quite virtuous :). The stuff really is great for travelling. MargW

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View entire thread: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top
Posted by tegan57@gmail.com on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:58 PM    Post subject: Re: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top

Thanks, Jim! I suspect, thanks to Tara, I see shopping in my future! I love hats, even though they don't like me so
well, and I think I've already found two that are going to be eventual must haves! Tegan F.James Cripwell wrote:
[quote:8589919072]"tegan57@gmail.com" (tegan57@gmail.com) writes: Jim, While reading the most recent Kathy
Reichs novel, she mentioned several things that sent me screaming to the nearest Southerner to get answers to, but no
one knew what a Tilley hat was. Wanna explain it for me? Tegan I am so glad you asked the question. I have no
financial interest in Tilley Endurables, so I can "pass useful information" without "advertising" a
Canadian company. Tilley was a very, very keen sailor; he was sailing in all different sorts of weather. He wanted a
hat to meet very severe conditions. It had to look good, no matter what. It would get soaked, and when it dried it
still had to look good. It had to float. You must be able to easily tie it to your head, so no matter how strong the
wind, it did not blow off. You must be able to scrunch it up, and put it in your pocket; then unscrunch it, put it on
your head, and it still looked presentable. etc. etc. He could not find such a hat, so he got onto a sewing machine, and
experimented. He finally got his hat. However, when his sailing friends saw it, they all wanted one, and he made
several, before deciding to go into business. Now he sells high end travel and sports clothing; not cheap, but IMHO,
value for money. I have two Tilley shirts. I can wash them in the evening, hang them over a bath, and wear them
without ironing the next day. IIRC, he now sells underwear with the same characteristic. The washing instructions are
"Give 'em Hell. Wash with any combination of temperature, detergent and bleach". The hat, incidentally, has a
very simple oval crown, with brim, made of a heavy cotton duck. It has been imitated, but is still very distinctive.
For one military mission, all Canadian forces wore Tilley hats.[/quote:8589919072]

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View entire thread: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top
Posted by F.James Cripwell on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:50 PM    Post subject: Re: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top

"tegan57@gmail.com" (tegan57@gmail.com) writes: [quote:f833e26b46]Jim, While reading the most recent Kathy
Reichs novel, she mentioned several things that sent me screaming to the nearest Southerner to get answers to, but no
one knew what a Tilley hat was. Wanna explain it for me? Tegan [/quote:f833e26b46] I am so glad you asked the
question. I have no financial interest in Tilley Endurables, so I can "pass useful information" without
"advertising" a Canadian company. Tilley was a very, very keen sailor; he was sailing in all different sorts
of weather. He wanted a hat to meet very severe conditions. It had to look good, no matter what. It would get soaked,
and when it dried it still had to look good. It had to float. You must be able to easily tie it to your head, so no
matter how strong the wind, it did not blow off. You must be able to scrunch it up, and put it in your pocket; then
unscrunch it, put it on your head, and it still looked presentable. etc. etc. He could not find such a hat, so he
got onto a sewing machine, and experimented. He finally got his hat. However, when his sailing friends saw it, they
all wanted one, and he made several, before deciding to go into business. Now he sells high end travel and sports
clothing; not cheap, but IMHO, value for money. I have two Tilley shirts. I can wash them in the evening, hang them
over a bath, and wear them without ironing the next day. IIRC, he now sells underwear with the same characteristic.
The washing instructions are "Give 'em Hell. Wash with any combination of temperature, detergent and bleach".
The hat, incidentally, has a very simple oval crown, with brim, made of a heavy cotton duck. It has been imitated, but
is still very distinctive. For one military mission, all Canadian forces wore Tilley hats.

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View entire thread: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top
Posted by tegan57@gmail.com on Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:50 PM    Post subject: Re: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top

Thank you, Tara. Someday I'll learn to just google stuff myself. I don't know why I never think to do that. Frustration,
I think. Seems like everytime I run across a word in a foreign language that I can't figure out, it's one of the few
words Babelfish can't tell me what it is! So that tends to just carry over to other things after a while. Thanks for
the link though, cause I think I see shopping in my future.... Tegan Tara D wrote: [quote:aff6c9254c]Try
http://www.tilley.com/ They are know for making very durable travel clothing. Light, quick drying, long lasting. On
11 Sep 2006 07:06:21 -0700, "tegan57@gmail.com" <tegan57@gmail.com wrote: Jim, While reading the most
recent Kathy Reichs novel, she mentioned several things that sent me screaming to the nearest Southerner to get answers
to, but no one knew what a Tilley hat was. Wanna explain it for me? Tegan F.James Cripwell wrote: I am not sure if
my experience has any bearing, but here goes. I had two Tilley hats, which I used the way Tilley hats are supposed to
be used; for gardening, out jogging, at the cottage, on the lake, etc. Though they were washed regularly, they got to
be pretty disgusting. I gave them both identical Oxyclean treatment. One came out not too bad; the other has yellow
stains all over it, and I cannot get them out.[/quote:aff6c9254c]

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View entire thread: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top
Posted by Tara D on Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:37 PM    Post subject: Re: OT (sort of, maybe) Bleached a "use No Bleach" top

Try http://www.tilley.com/ They are know for making very durable travel clothing. Light, quick drying, long lasting.
On 11 Sep 2006 07:06:21 -0700, "tegan57@gmail.com" <tegan57@gmail.com> wrote: [quote:3b84e10c31]Jim,
While reading the most recent Kathy Reichs novel, she mentioned several things that sent me screaming to the nearest
Southerner to get answers to, but no one knew what a Tilley hat was. Wanna explain it for me? Tegan F.James Cripwell
wrote: I am not sure if my experience has any bearing, but here goes. I had two Tilley hats, which I used the way
Tilley hats are supposed to be used; for gardening, out jogging, at the cottage, on the lake, etc. Though they were
washed regularly, they got to be pretty disgusting. I gave them both identical Oxyclean treatment. One came out not
too bad; the other has yellow stains all over it, and I cannot get them out.[/quote:3b84e10c31]

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View entire thread: Hi everyone-I have a question about getting rid of stash
Posted by LizardGumbo on Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:17 AM    Post subject: Re: Hi everyone-I have a question about getting rid of stash

Brenda Lewis wrote: [quote:483ddb09e2]I don't know that needlework stuff is re-selling well anywhere because we are,
sadly, out of vogue right now. Wait, sadly? No, DEFIANTLY! [/quote:483ddb09e2] At this point in time and to my great
selfishness, I believe this is a good thing. Actually, I think most cycles are good things. It gives time to
regroup, refocus, and redirect one's efforts in his chosen art/craft. On the other hand, hand-dyers of both fabrics
and fibers are springing up everywhere and there is demand for a greater variety of charts than I've ever seen before.
I think what we are witnessing is the a) dying of brick and mortar stores for reasons we've discussed before
(including, but not limited to, crappy service and crappy hours), b) turning of brick and mortar needle-pulling-thread
stores into knitting and crocheting stores--just cause it's "in vogue" right now, and c) the devaluation of
the long-term craftsman for the short-term. When this discussion came up on another board, a lady named Sisu posted
this essay in response to the idea that people want "quick crafts" and stitching just isn't that. It (and
its followup email) really touched me, and she said I could share her words: [quote:483ddb09e2]I think it because we
have become an 'instant gratification' society in the US. In the time it takes to stitch even a small piece, you could
knit a purse, scarf, even a sweater. You could fill an entire scrapbook, and make endless numbers of beaded baubles.
People like fast crafts. I have a neighbor who is a very talented painter. She thinks taking 2 days for one painting is
a long time. When she saw some of my pieces and asked me how long they took, I thought she was going to choke when I
told her that an hour a day would get it done in 2 years. She said she would never get into a craft that took that long,
and I think that is the increasing mentality among busy soccer moms and babysitting grandma's. No time, no time, no
time. Me personally, I believe in doing something lasting. Look how many antique samplers and things there are from the
1800's and even the 1700's. And that was before we knew about acids and such. Imagine how long our well cared for pieces
may last. Much longer than a sweater or a scrap book page I believe. And with greater value. Sisu [/quote:483ddb09e2]
and its email followup: [quote:483ddb09e2]I want to leave a legacy for my children and their children and many more
down the road that I will never know. My family is horribly short[/quote:483ddb09e2] lived (my father died at 42, my
mother at 56) and I was in my 30's before I had my first child, so there is a good chance I may never see my
grandchildren. But I want to leave them something that speaks of my time, my life, and my love. Something my hands
created. Something that may speak to them of patience and determination, that shows them that perseverance is the
road to success. It may do none of that. They may look at it and say "It's nice, but just not my style".
But I can hope. How many of us stitchers have looked at an antique sampler and wondered about the girl or woman who
stitched it? Looked at the year and tried to picture the clothing she may have worn. Was her hair up? Did she wear a
bonnet? Was she the daughter of a farmer, a merchant, a priest? Did she enjoy her stitching or was it a chore, simply
a task to be completed? Were her mistakes a sign of carelessness or a sign or stitching by the too dim light of an
oil lantern? [quote:483ddb09e2] I want my descendants to wonder about me. Call it vanity, or maybe a desire for
immortality. Perhaps it is selfish. But I want them to think, to wonder, to feel connected to the past and to me. One
last point. Neither of my parents created anything lasting, besides their children of course. They had no hobbies
other than drinking. I have nothing that speaks of who they were as a person. I think that is what makes me desire to
leave something. I know when I die, my parents will be forgotten. Just another branch that the storms of time broke
from the family tree, leaving no trace other than a scar. I intend to attach my branch firmly. In threads of many
colors and with row upon row of tiny little x's. Sisu [/quote:483ddb09e2] In my recent venture I've had occasion to
cross paths with some older ladies who are needlepointers from way before I was born, who shared with me some of the
history behind it and some reasons for the contempt I had been feeling from needlepointers as being "only a cross
stitcher." It was an interesting history. But needlepoint is alive and thriving here in the US, and there are
shops that cater to the needlepointer, so I don't see any reason to weep for seemingly being out of favor (I know you
didn't, Brenda--but I've seen it elsewhere!). Now, I have a dual-pronged purpose to opening up shop (right now with
charts and later with a shop). One is to make money doing what I love (stitching and crunching numbers) and not being
a slave to my keyboard (medical transcription) anymore. The second is to be on the crest of the new wave of brick and
mortar stores that do what the current ones (you know, the ones I gripe about constantly) don't. I refuse to believe
that an economy with as many people spending as much money on leisure activities as they do is in any danger of being
suddenly unable to support needlework. /rant And that was my little philosophical needlework nonsense for the day.
Back to the grind. -- Elizabeth Pop the bubbles to reply. Website: http://www.effervescentdesigns.com WIP:
http://www.effervescentdesigns.com/wip.htm Work to date: http://www.effervescentdesigns.com/portfolio.htm

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View entire thread: book & textile deodorizer
Posted by Anonymous on Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:56 PM    Post subject: book & textile deodorizer

BOOK DEODORIZER HOME PAGE: http://www.bookdeodorizer.com/ Book Deodorizer is the perfect solution to a smelly problem.
these treated granules absorb moisture & odors. Use it to treat books, papers, clothing or other non-washable
objects, it will remove, perfume, cigarette smoke, mildew, and general mustiness. The granules are an inert and highly
absorbent material, which have an all natural base and a faintly cedar scent. directions: Put a layer of granules in an
airtight plastic container and seal a book up for about a week. The granules last for about 6 months or more, depending
on how much you use them. When they are spent, you can add them to your compost pile as they are biodegradable. If
unsatisfied, return unused portion for your money back

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View entire thread: domino
Posted by Roscoe2 on Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:05 PM    Post subject: Re: domino

Jan wrote: [quote:e61c9a5fac]I would love to do some stamping on a domino and have seen some, but am new to stamping..
Has anyone here done these before.. I have seen necklaces, ornaments and pins that are beautiful... Janice
[/quote:e61c9a5fac] Hi Janice, I have stamped on dominos and will share with you how I have done it. I know that there
are very talented stampers on this group and so therefore, they may have a better way of doing it. But here is how I
did it. Okay mind you the dominos that I have stamped on have been those white smooth, almost like ceramic,any who, I
have used the brilliance ink, which is a pigment ink, and sponged it onto the domino, then heat set it. Be careful
because the domino gets really really hot. Okay then I use a palette ink (which is a hybrid, waterproof ink) and stamp
my image on it. Now the reason I use the Palette ink is because you can use it to stamp on anything from paper, wood,
glass, ceramic, cork paper (which I love) and clothing and stays fresh. After I let it dry, usually for 24 hours, you
see I usually make a bunch of them set them aside to set and work on something else. Then I spray them with krylon spray
to prevent any chipping or anything. Then I either attach a magnet, a pin backer or add embellishments. For instance I
use wonder tape and wrap it around and dip it into glitter, which by the way never ever comes off and walaaaaaaa a
domino something. Clear as mud? Hopes this helps. Please ask questions if I have totally confused you. Inky Huggz,
Missy Olson Angel #1754 North Branch, MN

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Posted by Jeff R. on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:08 AM    Post subject: Re: I made, the BEST brushcutter

"Dave, I can't do that" <davenpete@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159915714.211102.6520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:272fc92be5]Hi people, [/quote:272fc92be5] <...>
[quote:272fc92be5] Next day I got hold of an old 24T carbide tipped 7-1/2" circular saw blade. I got a piece of
1/4" aluminum plate about 3-1/2" square. In the center, I drilled and reamed it 3/8" for the spindle.
Using a bolt as an arbor, I turned it to 3" diameter to just fit neatly in the spool cover. Next I turned down
about a 0.050" thickness to make a 5/8" diam boss for the saw blade to locate. Drilled for 2 x 1/4" x
3/4" long button head screws and nylocs on the centerline and at 2"BCD. After dropping it over the spindle, I
finished it off with a shake proof washer and stainless M8 nut. Wow is all needs be said. [/quote:272fc92be5]
<...> [quote:272fc92be5]Dave [/quote:272fc92be5] Holy Crap! I hope you're wearing solid steel boots and Kevlar
clothing. (I assume you already have a full-face shield on) I just can't shake the image of a 600mph carbide tip
whooshing through the garden. Would a plain steel blade be good enough? The weeds may end up having the last laugh
otherwise. -- Jeff R.

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Posted by John R. Carroll on Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:45 PM    Post subject: Re: Hydroforming question

Gunner wrote: [quote:650419e23f]On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:33:27 GMT, "John R. Carroll"
jcarroll@machiningsolution.com> wrote: Gunner wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:15:57 GMT, "Lloyd E.
Sponenburgh" lloydsp@mindspring.com> wrote: We used 1oz of black powder concussively initiated with 5g of
common "flash powder". That produces something like 3800 cc of gas in about 2 ms. The muffler housing had a
gross capacity of about 1800cc. We didn't want to overpressure it, so we stopped at about a 2:1 volume ratio. In
general, you can figure the pressure generated by a partially obturated black powder explosion to be around 160-250 psi,
but the initial overpressure wave when it's concussively ignited is around 500psi for a few microseconds. (I don't know
these things by personal measurement, it's something that's been tested in the industry, and can be found in tables)
Keep in mind that one ounce of black powder ignited with a fuse can fire a 1-lb, 4" diameter projectile about 400'
high. Actually, we tried the trick with 5g of flash powder (only... no BP), and nothing happened except for a very
satisfying BANG! I really _wouldn't_ try this at home. First of all, you must have a BATFE license
_and_a_licensed_site_ to do this. Second, it could be pretty hazardous. We have the place, the license, and the
protective bunkers and clothing to do this sort of thing in reasonable safety. Way cool! Id love to take a tour
sometime. Gunner, once carried a B blasters license, and as a child was known as the Mad Bomber Leaky diaper? Ayup.
Hey..one of the local cranksters walked off with that jack hoist last weekend. I got it back within 24 hours, no harm
no foul, and nobody died...(though he did need to change his skivies). So please please please come get that Big Joe and
the jack hoist ASAP so I dont have to run a new Forstner 3/8" drill bit up under someones kneecap as I graphicly
demonstrated doing, if something else comes up missing again. We will worry about the details at some other time. I
just want em gone, to limit the "bees to honey" factor and frankly..I need the room. [/quote:650419e23f]
Mark, Snap a few pics and send them. You guys sure do have a lot of crime up there. Glad I'm safe down here in Los
Angeles. LOL -- John R. Carroll Machining Solution Software, Inc. Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com

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Posted by Gunner on Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:23 PM    Post subject: Re: Hydroforming question

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:33:27 GMT, "John R. Carroll" <jcarroll@machiningsolution.com> wrote:
[quote:9c1b3e333e]Gunner wrote: On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:15:57 GMT, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydsp@mindspring.com> wrote: We used 1oz of black powder concussively initiated with 5g of common "flash
powder". That produces something like 3800 cc of gas in about 2 ms. The muffler housing had a gross capacity of
about 1800cc. We didn't want to overpressure it, so we stopped at about a 2:1 volume ratio. In general, you can figure
the pressure generated by a partially obturated black powder explosion to be around 160-250 psi, but the initial
overpressure wave when it's concussively ignited is around 500psi for a few microseconds. (I don't know these things by
personal measurement, it's something that's been tested in the industry, and can be found in tables) Keep in mind that
one ounce of black powder ignited with a fuse can fire a 1-lb, 4" diameter projectile about 400' high. Actually,
we tried the trick with 5g of flash powder (only... no BP), and nothing happened except for a very satisfying BANG! I
really _wouldn't_ try this at home. First of all, you must have a BATFE license _and_a_licensed_site_ to do this.
Second, it could be pretty hazardous. We have the place, the license, and the protective bunkers and clothing to do
this sort of thing in reasonable safety. Way cool! Id love to take a tour sometime. Gunner, once carried a B blasters
license, and as a child was known as the Mad Bomber Leaky diaper? [/quote:9c1b3e333e] Ayup. Hey..one of the local
cranksters walked off with that jack hoist last weekend. I got it back within 24 hours, no harm no foul, and nobody
died...(though he did need to change his skivies). So please please please come get that Big Joe and the jack hoist ASAP
so I dont have to run a new Forstner 3/8" drill bit up under someones kneecap as I graphicly demonstrated doing, if
something else comes up missing again. We will worry about the details at some other time. I just want em gone, to
limit the "bees to honey" factor and frankly..I need the room. Gunner "If I'm going to reach out to
the the Democrats then I need a third hand.There's no way I'm letting go of my wallet or my gun while they're
around." "Democrat. In the dictionary it's right after demobilize and right before demode` (out of fashion).
-Buddy Jordan 2001

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