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Posted by Susan Laity Price on Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:42 PM Post subject: Re: OT: projects
Remember I am the one who will not post a photo of her studio. One entire wall is lined with plastic boxes which hold
quilts that have been started. I enjoy the planning stages and trying new patterns but don't enjoy the finishing. Right
now I have six quilts sitting beside me that have been quilted by the long arm quilter and only need binding to call
them finished. From my old psychology classes I remember that not finishing projects can come from other problems
besides ADHD. Some are fearful of completing a project because they are afraid they won't like the finished project or
they do not feel they have the skill to finish it properly. In my case I just don't care! If the quilt is for a gift or
a sample for the class I finish it. If it is just something I wanted to try then the planning and beginning satisfy my
needs. I do struggle with guilt over the amount of money I waste buying fabric for unfinished projects but then remind
myself that it is cheaper than a head doctor and better for my body than drugs. No I won't box up all those unfinished
quilts and send them to my RCTQ friends today. Occasionally I do. But that means I have faced reality and done a little
cleaning. Susan On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:17:08 -0400, off kilter quilter <spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote:
[quote:3bbee80f48]Well, maybe this isn't completely OT. It's another question of curiosity. DH and I have realized
that not only does DS have ADHD, but more than likely I do as well (well, duh, I've known this for years, but he has
just figured it out). Anyway, I was wondering how many of you get close to finishing a project and "take a
break", only to start something new. I have spent all week repainting DDS room (paint in the morning while it's a
little cooler and DS is at VBS, that way she can have naptime in the afternoon and the walls are dry and paint fumes
gone). All that is left is the trim work, which requires the bigger ladder, lots of painter's tape, and patience. I
told Hubby that I was probably not going to work on it today because I wanted to make sure it was dry in there (walls
were a little tacky). He said, "of course you are. you are almost finished, so why not just stop and find
something new to do?" I guess htat means this is a regular occurance, though I have never noticed it before.
Anyway, today I will put the seat in the 4th chair (has been waiting since last weekend) and move it and the 3rd chair
into the dining room, taking out the bench from our old table. Then I will take the yard stick and the laser level AND
the 4 rolls of painters tape that I found and try to get the painted chair-rail done in DDs room as well as get her
doors painted. As soon as I get those done, I willl lose the remaining baby weight that I haven't worried about
(remember, DD is almost 3 now), vacuum the entire house, get DS into a local college (he's 6), make all the clothes that
are sitting in the wardrobe awaiting my attention, finish the last 4 quilts for soldiers angels, resize parents quilt,
make duvet cover for DSs bed, clean out the sewing room.....sheesh, if I keep up with everything that I started and then
put on hold for whatever reason, I won't have access to the ng for a while.....guess I'll catch up with everyone in a
few years at this rate (actually, just a few days, more likely). Larisa, just wondering if I'm the only one who gets
close to the end of a project and takes an indefinite break P.S. oh yeah, forgot that I will be making new curtains
for DDs room as well....gotta squeeze that in the list somewhere[/quote:3bbee80f48]
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Posted by off kilter quilter on Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:17 PM Post subject: OT: projects
Well, maybe this isn't completely OT. It's another question of curiosity. DH and I have realized that not only does
DS have ADHD, but more than likely I do as well (well, duh, I've known this for years, but he has just figured it
out). Anyway, I was wondering how many of you get close to finishing a project and "take a break", only to
start something new. I have spent all week repainting DDS room (paint in the morning while it's a little cooler and
DS is at VBS, that way she can have naptime in the afternoon and the walls are dry and paint fumes gone). All that is
left is the trim work, which requires the bigger ladder, lots of painter's tape, and patience. I told Hubby that I was
probably not going to work on it today because I wanted to make sure it was dry in there (walls were a little tacky).
He said, "of course you are. you are almost finished, so why not just stop and find something new to do?"
I guess htat means this is a regular occurance, though I have never noticed it before. Anyway, today I will put the
seat in the 4th chair (has been waiting since last weekend) and move it and the 3rd chair into the dining room, taking
out the bench from our old table. Then I will take the yard stick and the laser level AND the 4 rolls of painters tape
that I found and try to get the painted chair-rail done in DDs room as well as get her doors painted. As soon as I get
those done, I willl lose the remaining baby weight that I haven't worried about (remember, DD is almost 3 now), vacuum
the entire house, get DS into a local college (he's 6), make all the clothes that are sitting in the wardrobe awaiting
my attention, finish the last 4 quilts for soldiers angels, resize parents quilt, make duvet cover for DSs bed, clean
out the sewing room.....sheesh, if I keep up with everything that I started and then put on hold for whatever reason,
I won't have access to the ng for a while.....guess I'll catch up with everyone in a few years at this rate (actually,
just a few days, more likely). Larisa, just wondering if I'm the only one who gets close to the end of a project and
takes an indefinite break P.S. oh yeah, forgot that I will be making new curtains for DDs room as well....gotta
squeeze that in the list somewhere
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Posted by Susan Torrens on Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:12 AM Post subject: Re: OT: projects
This sounds like DS2. He has ADD, and has been suffering from panic attacks, brought on by trying to complete anything!
He is currently on disability, and is seeing his therapist regularly. They have traced his earliest remembered panic
attack to age 8! He is improving, but now instead of panic attacks, he gets physically sick. He is having more good days
than bad, but we are all impatient to see him get on with his life. -- Susan in Kingston ON sewing table complete, now
back to quilting! http://community.webshots.com/user/sbtinkingston "Susan Laity Price"
<slpdesigns@speakeasy.net> wrote in message news:19rn92dc7h2q5u6j8mqlgs9727h60h1tbj@4ax.com... I remember that
not finishing projects [quote:315f073ebd]can come from other problems besides ADHD. Some are fearful of completing a
project because they are afraid they won't like the finished project or they do not feel they have the skill to finish
it properly. On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:17:08 -0400, off kilter quilter spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote: Well, maybe
this isn't completely OT. It's another question of curiosity. DH and I have realized that not only does DS have ADHD,
but more than likely I do as well (well, duh, I've known this for years, but he has just figured it out). Anyway, I was
wondering how many of you get close to finishing a project and "take a break", only to start something new. I
have spent all week repainting DDS room (paint in the morning while it's a little cooler and DS is at VBS, that way she
can have naptime in the afternoon and the walls are dry and paint fumes gone). All that is left is the trim work, which
requires the bigger ladder, lots of painter's tape, and patience. I told Hubby that I was probably not going to work on
it today because I wanted to make sure it was dry in there (walls were a little tacky). He said, "of course you
are. you are almost finished, so why not just stop and find something new to do?" I guess htat means this is a
regular occurance, though I have never noticed it before. Anyway, today I will put the seat in the 4th chair (has been
waiting since last weekend) and move it and the 3rd chair into the dining room, taking out the bench from our old table.
Then I will take the yard stick and the laser level AND the 4 rolls of painters tape that I found and try to get the
painted chair-rail done in DDs room as well as get her doors painted. As soon as I get those done, I willl lose the
remaining baby weight that I haven't worried about (remember, DD is almost 3 now), vacuum the entire house, get DS into
a local college (he's 6), make all the clothes that are sitting in the wardrobe awaiting my attention, finish the last 4
quilts for soldiers angels, resize parents quilt, make duvet cover for DSs bed, clean out the sewing room.....sheesh, if
I keep up with everything that I started and then put on hold for whatever reason, I won't have access to the ng for a
while.....guess I'll catch up with everyone in a few years at this rate (actually, just a few days, more likely).
Larisa, just wondering if I'm the only one who gets close to the end of a project and takes an indefinite break P.S.
oh yeah, forgot that I will be making new curtains for DDs room as well....gotta squeeze that in the list
somewhere[/quote:315f073ebd]
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Posted by Jessamy on Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:32 PM Post subject: Re: projects
I thought that was *normal* I sometimes don't get past the halfway point even! <-- guiltily thinking of the semi
finished emptying of Alexander's "box"room so I can put his bed in there so he as more space to play in his
room and some patterns I need to finish writing and the quilt I need to finish and the competition quilt I need to get
done by Thursday and.. and... and... feel better now? -- Jessamy In The Netherlands Take out: so much quilting to
reply. Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jessamy_thompson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, maybe
this isn't completely OT. It's another question of curiosity. DH and I have realized that not only does DS have ADHD,
but more than likely I do as well (well, duh, I've known this for years, but he has just figured it out). Anyway, I was
wondering how many of you get close to finishing a project and "take a break", only to start something new. I
have spent all week repainting DDS room (paint in the morning while it's a little cooler and DS is at VBS, that way she
can have naptime in the afternoon and the walls are dry and paint fumes gone). All that is left is the trim work, which
requires the bigger ladder, lots of painter's tape, and patience. I told Hubby that I was probably not going to work on
it today because I wanted to make sure it was dry in there (walls were a little tacky). He said, "of course you
are. you are almost finished, so why not just stop and find something new to do?" I guess htat means this is a
regular occurance, though I have never noticed it before. Anyway, today I will put the seat in the 4th chair (has been
waiting since last weekend) and move it and the 3rd chair into the dining room, taking out the bench from our old table.
Then I will take the yard stick and the laser level AND the 4 rolls of painters tape that I found and try to get the
painted chair-rail done in DDs room as well as get her doors painted. As soon as I get those done, I willl lose the
remaining baby weight that I haven't worried about (remember, DD is almost 3 now), vacuum the entire house, get DS into
a local college (he's 6), make all the clothes that are sitting in the wardrobe awaiting my attention, finish the last 4
quilts for soldiers angels, resize parents quilt, make duvet cover for DSs bed, clean out the sewing room.....sheesh, if
I keep up with everything that I started and then put on hold for whatever reason, I won't have access to the ng for a
while.....guess I'll catch up with everyone in a few years at this rate (actually, just a few days, more likely).
Larisa, just wondering if I'm the only one who gets close to the end of a project and takes an indefinite break P.S.
oh yeah, forgot that I will be making new curtains for DDs room as well....gotta squeeze that in the list somewhere
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View entire thread: Sandblasting advice
Posted by Stealth Pilot on Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:53 PM Post subject: Re: Sandblasting advice
On 27 Jul 2006 07:15:01 -0700, "mlcorson" <mlcorson@njc-ids.com> wrote: [quote:28a2b808be]Hello all: I
am working on a series of metal, welded sculptures that I would like to gently sandblast or clean to bare metal without
texturing the metal. Mostly mild steel, hot rolled, cold rolled, etc. These include bars, pieces of sheet, pipe cutoffs,
tubes and bar stock. Some have mill scale some do not. I usually finish it to bare metal, remove cut lines, grind off
any imperfections. My point is that they are not super smooth even in their final form. In the past, I have typically
finished the surface to almost final form and then done my welding and assembly. Then, all is required is some touch up
to the final form. I put a lot of work into this pre-finishing and discovered it can greatly impede my creativity.
Sometimes I abandon a part that I spent a great deal of time working on. More often, I feel compelled to use it because
of the effort it took to prep it. I'd like to either speed up the pre-finish by softly sandblasting (without the tiny
pits) the pieces before assembly and/or hit them with something after assembly. I've heard of walnut shells, or plastic
sandblast media. Does anyone have experience with these? TIA -Mike St. Louis, MO [/quote:28a2b808be] from experience
beadblasting an entire aircraft. use a rounded blast media . glass beads of a type called ballottini come in many
grades.in my aircraft work I used two buckets full of them about eleven thousand times. I just swept them up and passed
them through a flyscreen filter to remove the detritus. I used AH grade to good effect. water washed dry sand which is
quite rounded also works really well. the way to prevent peening of the surface is to either reduce the pressure in the
airline or to direct the gun at an angle to the surface rather than perpendicular to the surface. my setup used one of
those taiwanese units sold in discount auto shops. they work quite well. at 120psi the beads will remove rust and peen
the surface with a finish that accepts paint really well. at about 80psi the action is gentler and at about 60 psi you
can have the gun perpendicular for quite some time with just a polishing action. btw you dont need to do all the
surface at once. just bead blast the welding areas first to clean them and then after the welding is all complete go
back over and finish the job. btw the use of a single compressor is futile ( I have months of experience behind the
comment) go and hire a trailer mounted compressor. these will give continuous air pressure for the duration of the job.
with a home workshop compressor you will be waiting for most of the time for pumpup to occur. I thought with a
15cuft/min unit I'd be ok but to me the hand nozzles all seem to need about 60cuft/min of air. ...and the job takes
forever. the bead blasting booth bears comment as well. you only need the thinest of plastic sheets to contain the
beads. I use a frame suspended from the ceiling which is draped in light weight plastic sheet paint drop cloths. when
pegged up at the corners it contains the beads really well. use air filters for your breathing air and a face mask and
gloves. my face mask is an old welding helmet with a clear plastic piece in the lens. I tape a piece of transparent
plastic sheet over the lens area and this takes all the abrasion. it gets replaced when it becomes frosted. Stealth
Pilot
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Posted by nzlstar* on Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:22 AM Post subject: Re: OT-future long distance visiting and/or quilt shows (jus
bizarre? have you not read the news today? after the events across the pond from you and the resulting chaos i expect
it will soon be how we'll be traveling. no more late arrivals for check-in, even on domestic flights. have a look at
cnn.com the news is all there. i was planning on going back thru calif this fall, then on to detroit. rent a car,
drive up to london, ontario to get my unsold vase and was going to carry it onboard back home with me, not as checked
in luggage. that might be difficult to do now. yesterday all flights were either cancelled or delayed out of heathrow
airport. those allowed to leave had all passengers repack their carry on stuff so they were only carrying essential
items such as passport and money carried in clear plastic bags which the airlines provided. no tubes or jars or
bottles for toiletries (argh the dry skin brigade of travel), no keyring things to open your car, only the keys
themselves i think were allowed. security took on a whole new meaning yet again. barefoot, smelly, ewwwwwwww, nasty. so
you dont like my idea bout traveling nekkid i presume. :)) jeanne -- san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz nzlstar on yahoo
msg'r nzlstar on webshots gen.gen.co.nz "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote ...
[quote:d81ee5a435]Jeanne- Where did this bizarre info come from? Is it truly official or some speculation on someone's
part? And here I was just thinking about jetting off to England and Europe.... just kidding! It's only a dream. The
HairyButt Gang would be lost if I did that. ;-) Leslie & The Non-Flying Stay-at-Home Furbabies in MO. nzlstar*
wrote: due to recent circumstances all future long distance travel, aka too far to do by car, train, bus, will be much
more interesting. from what i can figure out, we will arrive without the joy of clean teeth as we cant carry toothpaste.
my hairbrush will probably not be allowed cuz the one inch diameter wooden handle will no doubt be suspect, so my hair
wont look great either. we'll have no idea if we're on time or not without watches. i reckon all jewelry will also not
be worn well cuz its metal and therefore could be used for any manner of purposes. i guess those of us who wear wedding
rings will now be considered single and therefore be getting chatted up more than usual by all and sundry. we'd best
have good elastic in our waistbands as belts with metal bits will be out of the question too. barefoot or only flipflops
will be allowed and those too may well disappear soon. i'm of the opinion in future we should all be flying nekkid. now
that will sure separate the men from the boys, eh. :)) cheers from another 'might rain or might not rain' winter day
here in the south pacific. jeanne[/quote:d81ee5a435]
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Posted by Kate G. on Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:46 AM Post subject: Re: OT-future long distance visiting and/or quilt shows (jus
If you do make it to Detroit... you gotta let me know! I'm 30 minutes from the Detroit Metro airport~! Kate in MI
"nzlstar*" <fancyfroggin@unpickit.com> wrote in message news:ebgf3d$r5h$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
[quote:43fb94dc14]bizarre? have you not read the news today? after the events across the pond from you and the
resulting chaos i expect it will soon be how we'll be traveling. no more late arrivals for check-in, even on domestic
flights. have a look at cnn.com the news is all there. i was planning on going back thru calif this fall, then on to
detroit. rent a car, drive up to london, ontario to get my unsold vase and was going to carry it onboard back home with
me, not as checked in luggage. that might be difficult to do now. yesterday all flights were either cancelled or delayed
out of heathrow airport. those allowed to leave had all passengers repack their carry on stuff so they were only
carrying essential items such as passport and money carried in clear plastic bags which the airlines provided. no tubes
or jars or bottles for toiletries (argh the dry skin brigade of travel), no keyring things to open your car, only the
keys themselves i think were allowed. security took on a whole new meaning yet again. barefoot, smelly, ewwwwwwww,
nasty. so you dont like my idea bout traveling nekkid i presume. :)) jeanne -- san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz nzlstar on
yahoo msg'r nzlstar on webshots gen.gen.co.nz "Leslie & The Furbabies in MO." wrote ... Jeanne- Where
did this bizarre info come from? Is it truly official or some speculation on someone's part? And here I was just
thinking about jetting off to England and Europe.... just kidding! It's only a dream. The HairyButt Gang would be lost
if I did that. ;-) Leslie & The Non-Flying Stay-at-Home Furbabies in MO. nzlstar* wrote: due to recent
circumstances all future long distance travel, aka too far to do by car, train, bus, will be much more interesting. from
what i can figure out, we will arrive without the joy of clean teeth as we cant carry toothpaste. my hairbrush will
probably not be allowed cuz the one inch diameter wooden handle will no doubt be suspect, so my hair wont look great
either. we'll have no idea if we're on time or not without watches. i reckon all jewelry will also not be worn well cuz
its metal and therefore could be used for any manner of purposes. i guess those of us who wear wedding rings will now be
considered single and therefore be getting chatted up more than usual by all and sundry. we'd best have good elastic in
our waistbands as belts with metal bits will be out of the question too. barefoot or only flipflops will be allowed and
those too may well disappear soon. i'm of the opinion in future we should all be flying nekkid. now that will sure
separate the men from the boys, eh. :)) cheers from another 'might rain or might not rain' winter day here in the south
pacific. jeanne [/quote:43fb94dc14]
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Posted by nzlstar* on Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:44 PM Post subject: Re: OT-future long distance visiting and/or quilt shows (jus
wow, that is close. then you could tell me how long is the drive from the airport up to London, Ontario. considering
i've never lived anywhere near there. spent 6 weeks in london and a couple of weeks in Ypsilanti on the last trip.
seems to me the roads/freeways had a lot of detours and roadworks then too. eeeeeeeek. how hard it is to find my way
from the airport across the border and up to London. i'll need to make the round trip all in the one day with hopefully
less than an hour there unless the LenMills shop is easy to find of course for a wee bit of s.e.x. :) well heck it did
have some amazing bargains there. but the main purpose is to get my vase and return the car asap. then i gotta figure
out how to continue my trip to where ever if i can carry my vase on a plane. oh geez, this saga just goes on and on and
on and on, eh. cheers from a cold winter night and i'm off to bed soon, jeanne <what doesnt kill ya makes you
stronger but i dont know which will happen first> -- san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz nzlstar on yahoo msg'r nzlstar
on webshots gen.gen.co.nz "Kate G." wrote... [quote:4c6a7d44e1]If you do make it to Detroit... you gotta let
me know! I'm 30 minutes from the Detroit Metro airport~! Kate in MI "nzlstar*"
<fancyfroggin@unpickit.com> wrote in message news:ebgf3d$r5h$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... bizarre? have you not read the
news today? after the events across the pond from you and the resulting chaos i expect it will soon be how we'll be
traveling. no more late arrivals for check-in, even on domestic flights. have a look at cnn.com the news is all there.
i was planning on going back thru calif this fall, then on to detroit. rent a car, drive up to london, ontario to get my
unsold vase and was going to carry it onboard back home with me, not as checked in luggage. that might be difficult to
do now. yesterday all flights were either cancelled or delayed out of heathrow airport. those allowed to leave had all
passengers repack their carry on stuff so they were only carrying essential items such as passport and money carried in
clear plastic bags which the airlines provided. no tubes or jars or bottles for toiletries (argh the dry skin brigade of
travel), no keyring things to open your car, only the keys themselves i think were allowed. security took on a whole new
meaning yet again. barefoot, smelly, ewwwwwwww, nasty. so you dont like my idea bout traveling nekkid i presume. :))
jeanne -- san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz nzlstar on yahoo msg'r nzlstar on webshots gen.gen.co.nz "Leslie &
The Furbabies in MO." wrote ... Jeanne- Where did this bizarre info come from? Is it truly official or some
speculation on someone's part? And here I was just thinking about jetting off to England and Europe.... just kidding!
It's only a dream. The HairyButt Gang would be lost if I did that. ;-) Leslie & The Non-Flying Stay-at-Home
Furbabies in MO. nzlstar* wrote: due to recent circumstances all future long distance travel, aka too far to do by car,
train, bus, will be much more interesting. from what i can figure out, we will arrive without the joy of clean teeth as
we cant carry toothpaste. my hairbrush will probably not be allowed cuz the one inch diameter wooden handle will no
doubt be suspect, so my hair wont look great either. we'll have no idea if we're on time or not without watches. i
reckon all jewelry will also not be worn well cuz its metal and therefore could be used for any manner of purposes. i
guess those of us who wear wedding rings will now be considered single and therefore be getting chatted up more than
usual by all and sundry. we'd best have good elastic in our waistbands as belts with metal bits will be out of the
question too. barefoot or only flipflops will be allowed and those too may well disappear soon. i'm of the opinion in
future we should all be flying nekkid. now that will sure separate the men from the boys, eh. :)) cheers from another
'might rain or might not rain' winter day here in the south pacific. jeanne [/quote:4c6a7d44e1]
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View entire thread: porcelain firing
Posted by Steve Mills on Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:53 AM Post subject: Re: porcelain firing
Steve, Your post has jogged a memory; Doll makers both here and on your side of the pond fire the heads embedded in
Silica Sand. Maybe this would work with Susie's Piece. In addition I ran Susie's fibre technique past a Potter/Sculptor
friend who confirmed that it will work well and the only clean-up technique needed would possibly be with a bit of fine
sandpaper. Steve Bath UK In article <1162054207.350689.30690@e64g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, steve
slgraber@aol.com <slgraber@aol.com> writes [quote:e2920c9491]i've simply monitored all this, but the concept hit
me from a different application. maybe it might spark an idea. my wife got LONG ago some silica that she'd pour into a
shoebox over some fresh picked flowers (mini roses were her favorite). cover the flowers with silica & let them sit
for several weeks. the silica would cover the flower & grains get in here & there. the flowers would dry out
& she'd shake them gently to release the silica. save the silica & do more flowers. so, a high temp material
could do the same thing i would guess? high temp alumina sand? but to apply the flower concept to clay means a shrink
element is now included. so a high temp silica sand that shrinks? i don't know how to do that unless this magic high
temp sand had something in it to burn out & *shrink* some as well? i bet maybe very fine saw dust could be blended
in that special ratio (and what's that?!) and the sand mix would shrink the same-similar to the art piece. ~ except the
saw dust would melt & turn the support structure into a clump. perhaps the sand mix accidently lets a piece shrink
within it to not hurt anything? very interesting challenge. i don't know if there is anything that has a property
analogus to foam at high temperatures. a magic sand that reacts like shreaded foam? vermiculite? that's kind of foamy
in feel. how big is this thing? maybe at a small size it's ok. "large" and shrinkage becomes a problem.
see ya steve On Oct 28, 8:240 >> In message <1161911062.460704.121...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"steve 0 interesting concept of total imersion of the piece into alumina. 0 >> >might work. 0 >>
>shrinkage would complete the idea. steve On Oct 25, 2:360 >> This may help or may lead you into unknown
problems. (Could apply that comment to any advice I suppose!) Bone china is biscuit fired to 1250 degC and above and is
very prone to distortion. The glaze fire is at a much lower temperature. So in the biscuit firing the pieces are
"bedded" in Alumina, what grade I don't know, I did ask about the firing of a lattice work basket that was
about 6 inches high and I got the impression that it was pretty well immersed in alumina. This was about 20 years ago
and it is not something I have direct experience of, so treat with caution! But it seems a reasonable starting point for
some trials, the alumina should be reusable. I think that you need to experiment with some not so important pieces.I've
been following all your suggestions - thanks for all your ideas for future projects. 0 >> previous post - but I've
never made anything quite so ambitious before. I'm wondering just what the limits of porcelain are? 0 >> fibre and
sacrificial props for supporting all sorts of things in the past, and in general they've worked fine. 0 >> far
beyond the point I've ever tried before. 0 >> without thinking about how I would fire them - hence my current
problems! Regarding immersing in alumina, I presume you have some sort of saggar/box/container in which you place the
object and then gently fill with alumina. 0 >> has damaged the unfired work as you bury it? 0 >> if you can
high biscuit fire and then apply glaze at a lower temperature as per bone china. I've tried working in bone china, but
unless the body has changed, I found it difficult and un-cooperative. 0 If the weather's better tomorrow I'm going to
put the dragons in the kiln and fire them very slowly up to around 1050C, to check for problems/cracks/etc showing at
lower temperature. 0 >> maybe I'll be able to get ceramic fibre around and under the crucial bits before I fire
them up to 1240C, the lowest recommended firing temperature for the clay. I'll take some photos in the morning before
hand, in case of disaster. It's be good to remember just what I made, even if the dragons come to earth with a 0 Thanks
all Regards Susie -- Susie Thompson If you can't stand the heat, don't tickle the dragon! to email me, replace
deadspam.com with susiethompson.co.uk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - [/quote:e2920c9491] -- Steve Mills Bath
UK
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Posted by Gunner on Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:06 PM Post subject: Re: OT homosexual pedophile Rep. Foley
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 03:27:28 -0400, "tonyp" <tonyp@world.std.com> wrote: [quote:78e43daffc] 3) Hit up
the likes of Paris Hilton for some spare change to run the government with. The likes of Gunner are too deep in hock
already. Democrats have various ideas about changes to the tax laws, but none of them thinks that making sure Paris
Hilton inherits her daddy's money tax free is essential for "economic growth". [/quote:78e43daffc] Sure..lets
follow Democrat Theology and tax ourselves into prosperity. [quote:78e43daffc] 4) Put our faith in science, instead of
making a science of our faith. That embryonic stem cells are "innocent babies" may be something that both
Dubya and Osama could agree on, and this little kernel of agreement _could_ ultimately flower into peace with the
Islamofascists, but Democrats don't want peace on those terms. [/quote:78e43daffc] Evidently you failed to note that
Bush has increased funding for stem cell research by an order of magnitude? And this has what to do with Usamma?
[quote:78e43daffc] 5) Make Congress part of the government again. Blind loyalty to the President of the moment is not
patriotism, it is not efficiency, it is not security. Especially when the temp in the Oval Office is floundering, it is
the _duty_ of Congress to help him repair some of the damage he has caused. Republicans think the best way to help the
President is to give him everything he wants and ask no questions. Democrats don't. [/quote:78e43daffc] Of course not.
Now if the president was a Democrat, Democrats bend themselves over a chair, and pass back the lube. The public on the
other hand..gets the ass fucking, dry. [quote:78e43daffc] You may think the above is too vague to be a "plan",
and you're right in this one respect: no poll I know of predicts the Democrats taking Congress by a veto-proof
majority, and therefore _nothing_ the Democrats say is a "plan". -- TP Democrats and Plan..now there is an
oxy moron. The only Plan the Dems[/quote:78e43daffc] have promoted in the past 6 yrs, is No More Bush. Period. End
Program. Full Stop. Watching the campaign ads on TV..the only plan the Dems promote..is Anti Bush. An ad against a
Republican dog catcher..is all No More Bush. Heads up, you dumb sons o bitchs..Bush isnt running again. The biggest
problem that the Dems have..is that the far left fringe kook extremists have hijacked the DNC...and if they ran on what
their Plans Really Were...they would lose what seats they already have as the People recoiled in disgust. Here in
California, there is an Attorney General race between Moonbeam Jerry Brown and Poochigan. Jerry Brown is one of those
far leftwing fringe kooks. Both of his terms as Governor proved it..as has his tenure as the mayor of Oakland. One of
his ads proclaims that Poochigan wanted to give everyone .50 caliber "assault rifles"..then shows a couple cop
cars lined up and a graphic of a 50 cal bullet going through them side by side. Never mind that its never happened
before, there already IS a .50 cal ban in California, and that any deer rifle will do the same thing. Fear mongering is
the Democrat way. The more distorted..the better http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20061006-9999-
1n6agdebate.html By James P. Sweeney COPLEY NEWS SERVICE October 6, 2006 Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown and state Sen.
Chuck Poochigian questioned each other's integrity as well as their distance from the political center during a free-
swinging debate yesterday in the race for the open attorney general's office. Brown, a Democrat and former two-term
governor, repeatedly called his Republican opponent an “extremist” in the mold of “his mentor George Bush” and far to
the right of Republican Govs. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Pete Wilson. Advertisement “He keeps bringing up George
Bush,” Poochigian countered in the debate in San Francisco. “Jerry Brown has spent far, far more time with Fidel Castro
than I have spent with any U.S. president. That's a fact. He's the extremist in this race, not me.” In 2000, Brown
visited Cuba to sign a “sister city” proclamation with Santiago de Cuba, where the mayor talked with the Cuban leader.
Poochigian and Brown clashed on crime and their respective records on gun control and environmental protection
throughout the one-hour debate sponsored by the San Francisco Chronicle and televised by CBS 5. Poochigian said Brown
has amassed a “deplorable . . . awful record of crime fighting” during nearly eight years as mayor of Oakland, a city in
the grips of what appears to be the worst crime wave in a decade. Brown said he has made progress against Oakland's
stubborn crime rate. More importantly, he said, he has gathered valuable street-level experience that he would take to
the attorney general's office. “The cops are overworked. They're outgunned. We need help from the state,” Brown said.
“I've already asked and received six special agents to come in from the attorney general's office. “I'd like to create
that kind of strike force that could be made available to places like Oakland and Richmond and Compton.” Brown
criticized Poochigian for opposing legislation to curb greenhouse gases, outlaw .50-caliber rifles and reduce air
pollution in the Central Valley, where asthma is almost epidemic. “He has been a consistent ally of those businesses
that don't want to do their duty, to protect children's health, to protect against dangerous pesticides,” Brown said.
Poochigian said he has backed many prominent environmental measures, including legislation that allocated millions of
dollars to environmental programs. “If you want to maintain the quality of life we have,” Poochigian said, “then you
have to find ways to clean the environment that are compatible with efforts to make sure we have a healthy economy.”
Poochigian cited conflicting Brown positions on gun control, crime victims and law enforcement. “I don't know for sure
what Jerry Brown believes on just about anything,” Poochigian said. But Brown accused Poochigian of bombarding voters
with “disinformation” and warned “this man is not to be believed.” That drew an angry retort from Poochigian. “Mayor
Brown, you've made charges against me. I've made charges against you. You're the first, though, to call me a liar,”
Poochigian said. “I'm 57 years old. No one, no one has ever called me a liar.” Brown said Poochigian's campaign has
created the impression that “crime was the highest in California” when he was governor. “There were 550,000 more
violent felonies in the eight years after I was governor than during my eight years. That's the truth,” Brown said.
“And, yes, when you distort it, that constitutes a fabrication, misrepresentation and where I come from, we can call
that a lie.” Yes Jerry..it is a distortion. In fact..your policies resulted in far more than 550,000 violent felonies.
Its taken years to correct your damage to the courts, the law enforcement community and the prison systems. Can you
say...Hand picked and gave us Rose Bird? And of course..Oakland is Murder Capital of California..and has been since
you were mayor. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-debate6oct06,0,3793125.story?coll=la-headlines-politics
Moon Beam Jerry is now a mainstream Democrat. 20 years ago..he was far left. That simply shows how far left the Dems
have plunged. Brown once suggested that abolishing executions would put California on "a higher level of
consciousness....and voted for the Prisoners Bill of rights, and AGAINST the Victims Bill of Rights. Brown is now a
typical Dem..and thats damned scary. http://www.pooch4ag.com/inthenews/ Gunner "A prudent man foresees the
difficulties ahead and prepares for them; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs
22:3
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