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View entire thread: No Hip Measurements?
Posted by DAB on Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:55 AM    Post subject: Re: No Hip Measurements?



Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote: [quote:1355f080e3]Donna i am one of the persons , who needs 3 sets of different measurements
to dress up ,,, So here goes Ask a frind to help . make a big tablet with all possible sizes measure and note down EVERY
part to be covered with sweater .. [for example Arm length inside and outside , circumference of arm pit , elbow and
cuff / Waist hips midrif ,, etc,,, if you knit from hips up , calculate from your swatch how many stiches you need and
cast those on,. measure the length from hips to midrif , calculate how many stiches you need there ,,,, divide the
length [cm or inches] into the number of stiches to be decresed and than work out were you do it in the side seam ,
and in the for and after middles etc,,,, than when you go up to your waist you increase the needed stiches again, On
sleeved you Divide the number of stiches to be incresed [ when knitting from cuf to shoulder] into 2 ,, and than this
divive length into that number , by this you will know where to increase ,,, mirjam [/quote:1355f080e3] Wow thanks for
the info....I will print this out and save it for later. I still have 6 hats to make for presents so hope I can get
started on my sweater next month<G> I have a topdown pattern so hope that will make it eaiser. Thanks for your
reply mirjam and as a side note I still pray for your safety. Be well and happy! Donna


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View entire thread: Help! Need Ideas for Winter Ball Invitations
Posted by Lenora on Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:57 PM    Post subject: Re: Help! Need Ideas for Winter Ball Invitations

Sizzix has a new party dress die that is really cute (and on sale at the site for 7.50).
http://sizzix.com/shop.cfm?function=detail&ProductItemNumber=38-1198& I have also seen a rubber stamp in the
same dress shape. You could use them plain or add a tulle "skirt" over the top. Print the details on vellum
and layer it over snowflake patterned paper or stamped cardstock. Attach with ribbon or snowflake brads.Add a little
silver ink around the edges to add some glitz. cheers, Lenora Sandy wrote: [quote:3e0e05d5f0]My girl Scout Troop is
responsible for coming up with the party invitations for the Winter Ball in December. DD and I have been searching the
net for ideas with out much luck. Background Info for Ball - girls ages 6 to 15 (so DD didn't want to go with a
Cinderella theme); girls will arrive in party dresses to formals; they will go to workshops to get their hair done,
nails painted, learn table manners, be taught a basic ballroom dance; make calling cards; then their fathers or other
male figure will arrive for a catered sit-down finger type foods dinner , followed by a DJ for the dance. There are
about 5 girls making the invitations and they have to make around 75-80. So we're looking for something elegant but
fairly simple. DD asked me to ask the newsgroup for ideas that she can take back to her troop. We only have three weeks
to get them done as the Service Unit decided to pass out the initial invitations at registration night. Any help
appreciated. Sandy[/quote:3e0e05d5f0]


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View entire thread: Help! Need Ideas for Winter Ball Invitations
Posted by King's Crown on Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:37 AM    Post subject: Re: Help! Need Ideas for Winter Ball Invitations

The idea I wanted to pass on sounds just like what M-C suggested. A friend of mine made invitations to a bridal shower
that I thought turned out very elegant. She used half of an 8 1/2 X 11 sheet of paper, then half of a ....err clear
sheet... transparency with the info for the party printed on it. Then 2 holes were punch at the top in the center and
space about 2 to 3 inches a part. Ribbon was threaded through the holes and a pretty bow tied so it was above the
words on the invitation. The color combinations is what will make it elegant. If the girls could find some patterned
paper or wanted to be more crafty they could even dress the under sheet with some heat embossing with some
interesting rubber stamp set you have. My friend used burgundy ribbon and the paper underneath was white with tiny
burgundy flowers with tiny green leaves. The printing on the transparency was done in black and showed up very
nicely. Lynne "Sandy" <slmcbeth@verizon.net> wrote in message news:dIxCg.14516$rd1.13862@trnddc01...
[quote:078953defc]My girl Scout Troop is responsible for coming up with the party invitations for the Winter Ball in
December. DD and I have been searching the net for ideas with out much luck. Background Info for Ball - girls ages 6 to
15 (so DD didn't want to go with a Cinderella theme); girls will arrive in party dresses to formals; they will go to
workshops to get their hair done, nails painted, learn table manners, be taught a basic ballroom dance; make calling
cards; then their fathers or other male figure will arrive for a catered sit-down finger type foods dinner , followed by
a DJ for the dance. There are about 5 girls making the invitations and they have to make around 75-80. So we're looking
for something elegant but fairly simple. DD asked me to ask the newsgroup for ideas that she can take back to her troop.
We only have three weeks to get them done as the Service Unit decided to pass out the initial invitations at
registration night. Any help appreciated. Sandy [/quote:078953defc]


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View entire thread: Recommendation for machine
Posted by AK&DStrohl on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:24 AM    Post subject: Re: Adding button holes and buttons to RTW

">>>the [quote:0353e6b614]neckline isn't at all immodest. The complaint wasn't "immodest" but
"less professional". A V neckline is casual, it's youthful, and it may remind one of an open blue collar --
all these connotations counter-act the "I came here to give orders" statement you want office clothes to make.
You don't want your clothes to say "I came here to punch keys and fetch coffee" unless you would be upset at
being promoted. A V neckline is also the most flattering choice for many face and body types. In this decision-making
process there are many variables, and subjective judgments are especially unpredictable. [/quote:0353e6b614] I once
read a book on getting married within a year. All of this woman's "suggestions" for attire are all meant to
get the man to think of the woman as "sexually available". Open fronts, button fronts especially all the
way down a skirt or dress were given as "suggesting sexual availability". Just relating what she said, AK in
PA


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View entire thread: OT: the family of the off-kilter quilter
Posted by ellice on Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:55 PM    Post subject: Re: the family of the off-kilter quilter

Larias - the picture doesn't look Stepfordish at all! The color of the clothing is really rich, and it's a lovely,
happy looking group. We have friends whose "mother of the husband" insists on a family portrait whenever they
visit in So Cal. And the mother makes all the adults, and the toddler (his sisters that lives in So Cal) all dress
alike. The last 2 have been "khaki pants and white shirts. We make fun of them mercilessly. This year - she
wanted "red shirts and khaki pants" . Our friends freaked (we have another friend who's in management at
Target) saying "everytime we look at the picture, it'll look like the Target Employyee of the Month
collection" . Those pix, are definitely Stepfordish. The outcome for this year is still up in the air - given
the Target comment. Ellice - who really does think your family pix are lovely On 10/29/06 8:23 PM, "René"
<My.Pencil@mchsi.com> wrote: [quote:58e54cf161]But to me, the formal picture is kind of like a theme. The
perfect winter Christmas in the perfect neighborhood, the old fashioned street light, the twilight time of evening when
everything is blue and pure. It made me think that this is exactly what I mentally picture in my head when I think of
the perfect family Christmas. It's beautiful. René "Karen, Queen of Squishies" <Karen @
PlayPianoNow.info> wrote in message news:K0N0h.212457$FQ1.208633@attbi_s71... I for one am not sick of seeing your
lovely family! And I must agree with you. While the formal attire looks awesome, the theme Christmases are much more
fun-for-all. Karen, Queen of Squishies ----- www.PlayPianoNow.info Dug around, and while a lot of people seem to
think I should suck it up and do formal pictures every year, others don't. SO, thought I'd let you talk a walk through
our past <grin>. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=117cre2.j pg&.src=ph
Thomas' first Christmas - 2000 http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=7586re2.j
pg&.src=ph Christmas 2001 - Hawai'ian shirts
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=4e7ere2.j pg&.src=ph Christmas 2002 - pajamas
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=ed5d.jpg& .src=ph Rebekah's first Christmas -
2003 http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=54d5.jpg& .src=ph Christmas 2004 -
reanissance garb http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=b7f5re2.j pg&.src=ph
Christmas 2005 - turtlenecks because I didn't get anything made in time!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/nystitcher1972/detail?.dir=5272&.dnm=4389re2.j pg&.src=ph Christmas 2006 -
"Stepford Family" Larisa, who thinks that by now, you are all sick of seeing my family [/quote:58e54cf161]


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View entire thread: OT: quick update
Posted by off kilter quilter on Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:52 PM    Post subject: OT: quick update

have been avoiding sewing/quilting space lately. Not because I don't want to work, but because I haven't been able to.
I keep forgetting to take my daily dose of drugs, and the weather has been grey and rainy, so I can barely make it
through lunch before i fall asleep (Seasonal Affective Disorder). I am getitng better at remembering meds, but now
delaing with other unplanned health issues, so work is slow. I am hoping to post pictures next week of the Christmas
apparel. Rebekah's dress is all done and pressed, mine is nearly done (needs hemming and bodice lining sewn down), but
the vests are only in the "cut out" stage <sigh>. We always get pictures done in October so that we
have them in time for sending out with Christmas cards...not sure if we will make it this year. Also have to squeeze
in a costume for DS if I can because he refuses to go to karate costume party without one. Was all psyched to get
started on Mariner's Compass wallhanging too...oh well, maybe that will be my November project <sigh>. That's
about it for me. I am still planning the next project, as you can see, but not getting very far on the current one.
Larisa, also having to spend WAY too much time getting the SS sorted out...sad when people just drop out


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View entire thread: Back from sewing retreat
Posted by Sandy Ellison on Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:53 PM    Post subject: Re: Back from sewing retreat

Howdy! Welcome home, Maureen! Sounds like a fun retreat, esp. w/ all those zippers. (never put in a zipper in my life,
don't intend to start now <g>) Making no judgments on family and the like, or their likes, how sweet of you to
make that sundress for your uncle's wedding; I'm sure he'll look quite fetching, however unconventional. A table
runner, too? Having not heard otherwise, I'm sure it turned out beautifully, you pre-washed the fabrics, right? (hi,
Polly! NASA wants to know if you can make enough of those placemats to cover a Space Shuttle, small one, of course
<g>) Bet you're so busy you haven't even noticed any changes in your stash; raiders are good, real good, about
covering tracks. ;-D Looking forward to the pics. Ragmop/Sandy On 8/18/06 8:11 AM, in article
0001HW.C10B26BD00907628F0407530@news.spf.sbcglobal.net, "Maureen Wozniak" <mwoz2@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[quote:fd3ef4258a]I actually got back Wednesday afternoon (only 1 night away) but had to go into work yesterday, so am
only now getting a chance to report on the trip. Unfortunately, I did not get much done and very little of that was
quilty. I spent most of my time ripping. Honestly, you'd think I never seen a zipper before, let alone put bunches of
them in. I had a big pile of things with me, but didn't get much of it done. Managed to finish a sundress for my
uncle's wedding in September, late Tuesday night, after I'd ripped out the zipper once, managed to somehow get the
orginial zipper off its track and spent half an hour trying to get back on track, breaking about 4 needles, and making a
run into the Walmart "in town" for more needles and two more zippers (figured at the rate I was going I might
need a spare), Fortunately the second zipper went in smoothly and I was able to finish the dress except for the hem.
Wednesday, after discovering the spool of thread that I thought was nearly full was not because everything on the spool
ended up on the bobbin (does that make any sense?) and begging thread from one of the other ladies, ( I wish I'd known I
needed thread when I was at W\allyworld the night before) I proceeded to a pair of shorts. Now, I've made this pattern
before, actually twice last summer, and it fit fine and the shorts I made from it still fit fine, but for some reason,
these are a little tightish, and once again I could not get the zipper in to save my life. I ripped that one out at
least three times and it still does not look right to me when I hold them up from the waist band, though it looks just
fine when its laying on the ironing board. I'm hoping it just need the final press to make it look okay, otherwise I
don't know what I'll do with these things. On the quilty side I did manage to finish a pile of blocks for a guild
exchange (only had to rip a couple of those) and quilted and bound a table runner that I pieced in a class with Annette
Ornelas this spring at Paducah. Of everything I did Tuesday and Wednesday, that turned out the best, although I swear as
I was sewing the binding to the back it grew to about a million feet long. It then shrunk its self back up to table
runner size. I'd also hoped to get all my BOMs finished and start a Halloween wallhanging, but I spent so many hours
ripping I never even got to look at them. My pile for show and tell at the end of the afternoon on Wednesday looked
pitifully small compared to the output of the others. Yes, I will post pics as soon as I get them taken. (Well, maybe
not the shorts--I think those might be too hideous) I'm hoping to get everything back down to the sewing room and
sorted out today, and with luck I'll get the pictures taken too. Maureen [/quote:fd3ef4258a]


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View entire thread: Back from sewing retreat
Posted by Maureen Wozniak on Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:11 PM    Post subject: Back from sewing retreat

I actually got back Wednesday afternoon (only 1 night away) but had to go into work yesterday, so am only now getting a
chance to report on the trip. Unfortunately, I did not get much done and very little of that was quilty. I spent most
of my time ripping. Honestly, you'd think I never seen a zipper before, let alone put bunches of them in. I had a big
pile of things with me, but didn't get much of it done. Managed to finish a sundress for my uncle's wedding in
September, late Tuesday night, after I'd ripped out the zipper once, managed to somehow get the orginial zipper off
its track and spent half an hour trying to get back on track, breaking about 4 needles, and making a run into the
Walmart "in town" for more needles and two more zippers (figured at the rate I was going I might need a
spare), Fortunately the second zipper went in smoothly and I was able to finish the dress except for the hem.
Wednesday, after discovering the spool of thread that I thought was nearly full was not because everything on the
spool ended up on the bobbin (does that make any sense?) and begging thread from one of the other ladies, ( I wish I'd
known I needed thread when I was at W\allyworld the night before) I proceeded to a pair of shorts. Now, I've made
this pattern before, actually twice last summer, and it fit fine and the shorts I made from it still fit fine, but for
some reason, these are a little tightish, and once again I could not get the zipper in to save my life. I ripped that
one out at least three times and it still does not look right to me when I hold them up from the waist band, though it
looks just fine when its laying on the ironing board. I'm hoping it just need the final press to make it look okay,
otherwise I don't know what I'll do with these things. On the quilty side I did manage to finish a pile of blocks for
a guild exchange (only had to rip a couple of those) and quilted and bound a table runner that I pieced in a class
with Annette Ornelas this spring at Paducah. Of everything I did Tuesday and Wednesday, that turned out the best,
although I swear as I was sewing the binding to the back it grew to about a million feet long. It then shrunk its
self back up to table runner size. I'd also hoped to get all my BOMs finished and start a Halloween wallhanging, but
I spent so many hours ripping I never even got to look at them. My pile for show and tell at the end of the afternoon
on Wednesday looked pitifully small compared to the output of the others. Yes, I will post pics as soon as I get them
taken. (Well, maybe not the shorts--I think those might be too hideous) I'm hoping to get everything back down to the
sewing room and sorted out today, and with luck I'll get the pictures taken too. Maureen


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View entire thread: Attempting to make a memory quilt....
Posted by clutz on Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:25 AM    Post subject: Re: Attempting to make a memory quilt....

I saw a pattern somewhere that used ths very idea. And if you can get any of his ties - put those on too! Wouldn't
matter if they matched or not - you know how men dress anyway! "steve" <stevenc707@gci.net> wrote in
message news:12e2ge8ctqat02b@corp.supernews.com... [quote:7e88646547]If you have four shirts, have you thought about
doing a simple four patch of the front of the quilt with the shirts. You could cut the sleeves and back off and sew the
fonts closed and then the whole front onto a piece of backing. Choose an appropriate fabric for a sashing between the
shirts. The backing and the sleeves could be used to do a chinese coin type of border. With leaving the shirts whole,
it would be like four of your FIL on the front of the lap quilt. You MIL could be "hugged" by the memories.
Just an idea. Steve sharon.bennett@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155556483.439249.107670@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... My FIL passed away last year, and I have decided to make
his shirts into a quilt for my MIL. I only have 3 possibly 4 shirts that can be used. 2 are plaid, one solid, and one
aztec like print. I am a beginning quilter, but have been sewing for several years. I am unsure of what type of quilt
to make. I was thinking about a very simple strip quilt Will it matter that the colours don't match, or should I buy
some additional fabric to help co-ordinate the fabrics. I am hesitant to do this as I really want the top to be just his
shirts. The only reason I am thinking about a strip quilt is for better use of the fabic in the shirts themselves. He
was a very thin man and his shirts don't have alot of fabric in them. I suspect I'll only get a lap quilt out of the
shirts. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sharon [/quote:7e88646547]


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View entire thread: OT Any heirloom dress stitchers here?
Posted by Polly Esther on Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:23 PM    Post subject: Re: OT you are so talented

Problem solved. The quest was for a way to stabilize fine cotton netting during sewing. Lots of experiments, including
many that obviously weren't going to work since some stabilizers melt with iron heat, some disappear, some yellow,
some just simply won't come off. I finally found one that will do the job nicely, endure the steam iron and gently
tear off when no longer needed. When the little dress is finished, somebody is going to say, "you are just so
talented". 'Talented' as if the ability to make this little beauty was simply handed to me instead of a whole
heap of struggling; you know, like being tall or having perfect pitch. The gators will know what do to with them.
And yes, Barbara. The darling the dress is for would much prefer sitting in a mud puddle than she would posing for a
Christmas card portrait. Great Aunt Polly "Bobbie Sews More" wrote >I assume this heirloom dress is NOT
for an alligator who is about to get [quote:5efdf8e611]married. I'm thinking that your cloth & netting needs a
fine spray of water to shrink it before cutting. If you don't, then it will definitely shrink on the gator during the
middle of the occasion. Take this advice from someone who sews for dogs. You never know when they will decide to go
swimming.[/quote:5efdf8e611]


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View entire thread: OT Any heirloom dress stitchers here?
Posted by Georg on Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:00 AM    Post subject: Re: OT Any heirloom dress stitchers here?

teleflora wrote: [quote:0174454fe8]Oh, I will try again. I really love it. I got the batiste at Hobby Lobby I think,
so it wasn't expensive. My quilt shop has the most beautiful pale, pale pink fabric. I know it's a cotton, but it
looks like a fine linen. I keep picturing a tiny little dress with a wide white collar with embroidery. Or a suit!
Wouldn't that be darling? [/quote:0174454fe8] Get a life size baby doll and make it! Even if you don't get a grandbaby
girl, you can enjoy making the dress. -georg


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View entire thread: OT Any heirloom dress stitchers here?
Posted by teleflora on Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:13 PM    Post subject: Re: OT Any heirloom dress stitchers here?

Ew! Already got the doll! Didn't even think about her. Perfect. Cindy "Georg"
<thegeorg@stny.rr.com> wrote in message news:baftg.56219$W97.33341@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
[quote:4e599e1aa3]teleflora wrote: Oh, I will try again. I really love it. I got the batiste at Hobby Lobby I think,
so it wasn't expensive. My quilt shop has the most beautiful pale, pale pink fabric. I know it's a cotton, but it
looks like a fine linen. I keep picturing a tiny little dress with a wide white collar with embroidery. Or a suit!
Wouldn't that be darling? Get a life size baby doll and make it! Even if you don't get a grandbaby girl, you can enjoy
making the dress. -georg[/quote:4e599e1aa3]


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View entire thread: OT: Photo of my DD Wedding
Posted by Sandy on Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:15 AM    Post subject: Re: OT: Photo of my DD Wedding

Thanks, Linda. The material was beautiful and so easy to work with. I told DD I had the easy job. It took me 1.5 hours
to make the kimono from cutting to pressing, but it took her a week to make her dress. I plan to start on DD's wedding
album as soon as I get the photos back from the photographer. I want to give it to them for Christmas. I kept all of
the scrap material and have enough to cover an album. I'm trying to find someone who has a monogram machine to put
their names and date on the material before I cover the album. Sandy "Linda C"
<lindacurley63@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1160610066.804395.179050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
[quote:d1b84e3348] Really nice photo Sandy! you did a nice job on the kimono..so cute! cant wait to se the LO's for the
wedding! Linda On Oct 9, 9:07 pm, "Sandy" <slmcb...@verizon.net> wrote: I added a photo of my DD,
granddughter and new SIL from their wedding this past Saturday to my webshots account. It is the last photo in 'Sarah'
Album. -- Sandy http://community.webshots.com/user/slmcbeth 2006 Totals LO's completed - 151 Swaps - 11 Cards - 53
Clipboards - 1 Lunch Pail - 1 Mini Album - 4 Workshops/Classes Taught - 4 Paint can - 1 "When you get to the end
of your rope, tie a knot and hang on" Franklin D. Roosevelt [/quote:d1b84e3348]


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View entire thread: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting
Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:30 AM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

Nice story Gina mirjam 2:38 -0400, Gina Bull <ginabull@virginia.edu> wrote: [quote:8b206b5d2e]My mom told me
that when I was a bald little baby she would use tape to stick on a hair ribbon so folks would know I was a girl. So
maybe the hat just needs a roll of double-sided tape to go with it. :-) Kidding aside, it is *very* pretty! Gina BB
wrote: Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments! You all may have inspired me to go for knitting the dress. If I
do, I should make the size for 36 months to give me a chance to have it done in time :P I know the hat probably won't
stay on her head very well since there isn't much elasticity, but *everything* doesn't have to be practical, does it?
:) BB[/quote:8b206b5d2e]


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Posted by YarnWright on Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:46 AM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:47:37 GMT, BB spun a fine yarn [quote:802cd45174]Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments!
You all may have inspired me to go for knitting the dress. If I do, I should make the size for 36 months to give me a
chance to have it done in time :P I know the hat probably won't stay on her head very well since there isn't much
elasticity, but *everything* doesn't have to be practical, does it? :) BB --- BB![/quote:802cd45174] I haven't been
here much, but I, too, wanted to compliment you on your work! :D Noreen -- I am not young enough to know everything.
http://www.lulu.com/content/292418 - - - - - --- avast! AV: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0642-0,
10/17/2006 Tested: 10/17/2006 6:46:19 PM avast! - (c) 1988-2006 http://www.avast.com


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View entire thread: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting
Posted by Gina Bull on Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:42 PM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

My mom told me that when I was a bald little baby she would use tape to stick on a hair ribbon so folks would know I
was a girl. So maybe the hat just needs a roll of double-sided tape to go with it. :-) Kidding aside, it is *very*
pretty! Gina BB wrote: [quote:3283a59fa1]Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments! You all may have inspired
me to go for knitting the dress. If I do, I should make the size for 36 months to give me a chance to have it done in
time :P I know the hat probably won't stay on her head very well since there isn't much elasticity, but *everything*
doesn't have to be practical, does it? :) BB[/quote:3283a59fa1]


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View entire thread: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting
Posted by BB on Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:47 PM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments! You all may have inspired me to go for knitting the dress. If I do, I
should make the size for 36 months to give me a chance to have it done in time :P I know the hat probably won't stay
on her head very well since there isn't much elasticity, but *everything* doesn't have to be practical, does it? :)
BB


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View entire thread: OT-Cheryl and Ellice
Posted by ellice on Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:24 PM    Post subject: Re: OT-Cheryl and Ellice

On 10/26/06 5:05 PM, "Donna" <needlearts@gmail.com> wrote: [quote:f750045f92]Sounds like you're living
a real life Project Runway. [/quote:f750045f92] LOL - it does feel that way. I've been a little disappointed with this
class, but they let a couple of students in that likely shouldn't be taking this class. They should just be doing the
"bridge" class - on how to use a custom sloper (fit garment/pattern) to fit a commercial pattern (make the
alterations to the commercial one so it fits perfectly). In this class it's about implementing an original design - how
to draft the pattern starting with the basic fit one. We've had to spend too much time explaining really simple
basics, and listening to the 2 wacky women - ok, only 1 is really wacky - the other differently wacky - who keep
interrupting with irrelevant stories, or the like. Last night the instructor came over and whispered "Ellice - I
really missed you last week - just to talk to" . Anyhow - I learned something really neat. I had about 4 sketches,
and we liked 2 of them a lot. Then I pulled out the last issue of THREADS - which has an amazing Devore velvet top on
the rear cover - kind of deep V neck, and a ruched empire waist. So, I re-sketched and decided to do a waistband that
is lower in the back, and then curves around and up - not quite empire, but with the ruching, which will then fall to
lightly skim/float (not pregnancy big) down to the high hip. (hips big - don't want to expand out - I do better in
cropped, shorter jackets, etc) Anyhow - I was thinking of a sleeve that would be a bit asymetric - and voila - teacher
asked if I knew about "hanging sleeves" - HUH? My brilliant answer. Turns out, its a sleeve that basically
encircles the arm at the top, but is open such that it's only on the back side - somewhere from up on your bicep, or at
the elbow - or however you design it. Very interesting - so I made some 1/4 scale patterns, and played with them - and
it's a little bit Renaissance looking - very cool - and will drape differently depending on the placement of the true
bias vs straight of grain. Of course now I have an excuse to go use today's 30% off at G-street - I'm going to try and
find some nice, soft velvet (drapey) for this, else maybe a silk. It's going to be a "dress-up" top (don't
think I want to do a long dress, though it's possible). Last night - and I was at the bigger G-Street (not the one
nearer the new house) all I could quickly find was $40-$50/yd velvet - and even at 30% I'm not doing that - since I'm
going to end up estimating the fabric. [quote:f750045f92] And for all you fans, you've got to visit the Project Rungay
blog. I can't believe I first found out about this blog from Newsweek of all places.
http://www.projectrungay.blogspot.com Nothing like men with a fine appreciation of a well-placed embroidery detail....
[/quote:f750045f92] Oh, so true. Gives you some hope for all our SOs and DHs. There is however a backlash- at times
now it appears that DH has paid attention - as opposed to the glazed over look he usually gets when I talk about some of
this stuff. Last week he joined me on the B-day Scarlet Thread jaunt - and actually was talking stock and threads with
one of the owners. Then he suddenly looked up and said "Oh, my G_D ... I know about this ....AAAAGGGHHHH" and
all of us women laughed. OTOH, he also noted on one of my samplers that the blackwork area - which was off by 1 thread
- was off and not up to my "usual standards" - so I pulled it and redid. Same piece - there's a double row of
4-sided stitch, and he wasn't sure if it was all pulled exactly the same....Argh. I told him it was fine and when the
piece is stretched for framing or bellpull it will be just fine. [quote:f750045f92] Donna in Virginia
[/quote:f750045f92] Ellice - also in Virgina [quote:f750045f92] ellice wrote: On 10/26/06 7:55 AM, "Donna"
<needlearts@gmail.com> wrote: Cheryl Isaak wrote: It's not listed on her site or on Amazon or Barnes and
Noble..... Sigh Amazon does have a slot for "Temeraire" (hard cover). I purposely didn't read the
"preview" chapter at the end of #3. No sense getting myself worked up. It's kind of like waiting for the
next go round in the Song of Ice and Fire series. Song of Fire and Ice. Ah. The good thing is when the last book was
delayed and delayed and delayed again, it was because he being forced to split it into two books. So the next book was
nearly halfway written when A Feast For Crows was published. I read his blog on livejournal. My kids are huge fans and
talk about Martin's characters like they are real people (sometimes to my husband's confusion...) Donna in Virginia
Doesn't everyone? FWIW - I wasn't worried about being forgotten by anybody - Tegan ;^) And am a little slack on
getting to the PO with some promised stuff heading to NH myself. Been busy sewing - with the machine for a change.
Anyhow - I have sewing "design" class tonight, and am way, way, behind - so I'm going to drag myself to the
other room, and then out to the truck which has my big roll of drafting paper, and come back in, and take over the dr
table and try to finish drafting this stupid pattern so I can make the muslin, so I can fit in on self, so I can then
redraw the pattern so I can then bring the correct, real, pattern pieces to class so I can whip up some stupid, or not
so stupid, design for an interesting top, so that if I'm lucky I can then get that muslin laid out. Sure, I can get the
first muslin made and fitted by 5 or so. No problem, HAH. Well, at least the machine is working well. I did pretty
much finish my knitting needle case - which I decided to dash off and then turned into a auilted back, with a strip-
pieced flap, and, well, of course it's more complicated than it should've been. But, on this topic - I made some
needlebooks out of the left over atrip pieces. They're kind of cute - little quiltied outers, and inside, a piece of
cotton batting backed on fabric - the needles will go into the batting. So, when Cheryl gets hers - she can say if she
likes it - I'm thinking of refining and then adding this to the fob collection for when I finallyhave the business
selling some pieces. And the website re-up, and my new stupid Loudoun county business licesnse in hand (waiting on the
permit from the Homeowners Asso). Now - back to the previously interrupted chat.... ellice [/quote:f750045f92]


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Posted by Julia in MN on Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:53 PM    Post subject: Re: OT Drycleaning baby clothes

There are a lot of things labeled "dry clean only" that can be washed with care. A lot of companies label
stuff "dry clean only" to protect themselves from liability. For example, a lot of silks and rayons can be
washed with care. Another reason, ready-made clothing is "dry clean only" is that the trims, linings, or
interfacings do not wash well -- one reason that I like to make my own jackets. I prewash all my fabrics and have been
doing that for a long time, long before I was doing much quilting. I learned my lesson after sewing something that was
too tight to wear after it was washed once. I figure if I prewash a rayon, for example, it should be okay to wash a
garment made from it. For fancy kids clothes, there are a lot of nice polyester satins, taffetas, and velvets that
wash beautifully. When my daughter was in high school I made a couple prom dresses from polyester taffeta. When I
finished one of them, I noticed a few oily stains from the oils on my skin. It went into the washer and dryer before
she ever wore it and came out looking great. I paid a bit more for the poly taffetas, but saving the cost of one dry
cleaning more than made up for that. We also used a poly satin for the bridesmaids' dresses for her wedding; I made
sure all the linings and underlinings were washable. I figured if they wanted to wear the dresses again, at least they
could clean them easily. Julia in MN Sunny wrote: [quote:b1f2306ac8]Along the same lines but without the adorable
kids....my husband, who is incredibly wonderful about seeing fabric now, brought me home a clearance shower curtain that
he picked up for $3. It's roughly 2 yards of gorgeous striped 100% cotton fabric. But it says "dry clean
only". Huh? What happens if I wash it? Is there really cotton that has to be dry cleaned? And who makes a shower
curtain that has to be dry cleaned????? Especially one you can buy at ShopKo. Sunny polly esther wrote: Sounds
wonderful. I would love to see that fabric. Dry-cleaning just one probably won't kill you - unless she just has to
wear the dress at all times. It could happen. Polly "Tia Mary" wrote The SMDGD is 3 1/2 now and this is
the first year I am making her holiday dress out of dry clean only fabric! AAACCCKKKKK -- what is wrong with me?!?!?
When we were in Lizard Land earlier this month, I decided that she was old enough to pick out her own fabric -- from a
selection that DD and I chose. Neither of us had the brains to check the fabric content of the choices offered! We knew
we wanted a sheer dress with the skirt & partial bodice lined. The kid chose a darling white sheer with nice sized
candy canes and holly leaves outlined in silver sparkles and some tiny little round peppermints scattered throughout.
Lining is red taffeta and the sleeves and neck are bound with this and there is a red satin bow. As soon as we got home
and dropped off the fabric, I trotted myself down to the local Wally World and bought the SMDGD a pair of
"Dorothy" shoes -- lovely BRIGHT RED glitter encrusted shoes. I've wanted to buy these for her since she was
born and this is the first time I could justify spending about $15 for a pair of shoes the kid will likely only wear 2
or 3 times -- LOL! So now the kid has a Christmas dress that MUST be dry cleaned and a pair of Christmas shoes that
can't be cleaned in *any* manner at all -- LOLOL! Now I have to find some suitable hair "jewels" to finish
the ensemble -- preferably as shiny and glittery and shimmery as possible. The child takes after her GrandMother and
LOVES her bling-bling -- LOLOL :-)! [/quote:b1f2306ac8] -- This message has been scanned for viruses by Norton Anti-
Virus http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/


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Posted by polly esther on Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:16 AM    Post subject: Re: OT Drycleaning baby clothes

Oh boy. It looks like there's plenty of room here to talk to myself so I'll add two more OT bits of good news. The
Christmas portrait dress I made for the 2 year-old is finished, fits perfectly and makes a grand parachute. The
little one has discovered that if you jump on the bed while wearing it that it does a marvelous whoosh! And ! the
Sesame Street Bert quilt has been delivered and is beloved. Who could ask for more? Polly "polly esther"
wrote > [quote:7681c2be09]Oh for crying out loud, nobody is going to create baby things that need dry-cleaning. I
just needed to be sure that wasn't what I was doing. Last week I got to visit two very expensive baby stores. Both of
them were featuring Minkee blankets lined with satin. The little covers were hardly 18" square and the price tags
were staggering. It is possible to find real Minkee at a decent price although it is also possible to buy a cheap copy
that is not very good. The challenge was to find a satin that truly could survive "Daddy helps with the
laundry". Delicately washing a baby blanket by hand was more than should be expected and dry-cleaning was not an
option. I know this is long and a little off topic, but thought some of you might want to make a very special gift. I
found Super Satin at the Chenille Place to be laundry sturdy, lovely to touch and an incredible lining for Minkee. Still
not affiliated but always hopeful. Polly [/quote:7681c2be09]


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Posted by maryd on Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:24 AM    Post subject: Re: OT Drycleaning baby clothes

Sounds like your projects are a hit!!! <s> -- Mary http://community.webshots.com/user/mardor1948 "polly
esther" <misterclean@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:nPd%g.18424$UG4.7137@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... : Oh boy. It looks like there's plenty of room here to
talk to myself so I'll : add two more OT bits of good news. The Christmas portrait dress I made for : the 2 year-old
is finished, fits perfectly and makes a grand parachute. The : little one has discovered that if you jump on the bed
while wearing it that : it does a marvelous whoosh! And ! the Sesame Street Bert quilt has been : delivered and is
beloved. Who could ask for more? Polly : : "polly esther" wrote > : > Oh for crying out loud, nobody is
going to create baby things that need : > dry-cleaning. I just needed to be sure that wasn't what I was doing. :
> Last week I got to visit two very expensive baby stores. Both of them : > were featuring Minkee blankets
lined with satin. The little covers were : > hardly 18" square and the price tags were staggering. : > It
is possible to find real Minkee at a decent price although it is : > also possible to buy a cheap copy that is not
very good. The challenge : > was to find a satin that truly could survive "Daddy helps with the : >
laundry". Delicately washing a baby blanket by hand was more than should : > be expected and dry-cleaning was
not an option. : > I know this is long and a little off topic, but thought some of you : > might want to make a
very special gift. I found Super Satin at the : > Chenille Place to be laundry sturdy, lovely to touch and an
incredible : > lining for Minkee. : > Still not affiliated but always hopeful. Polly : > : :


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Posted by Marcella Peek on Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:55 AM    Post subject: Re: OT Drycleaning baby clothes

Never underestimate the power of a great dress. When my nieces were young I used to make them smocked dresses. One
niece would come home from school every day and wear her dress all afternoon. She also wore it to church every single
Sunday. My sister reports she was very careful with it and refused to allow her younger sister go get it when it was
outgrown. Who knew? I did find a do it yourself dry cleaning kit at Costco last week. Haven't tried it yet but the
box says you can spot clean and then put it in the dryer with some sort of sheet (in the box) for 20 minutes. Might
be worth a look around your local shops to see if you can find something like that if she takes to wearing the dress
often. The dress sounds wonderful. I hope we see pictures soon. marcella In article
<4q59qoFkoio5U1@individual.net>, Tia Mary <CatWom7711@aol.com> wrote: [quote:9ae3342ac1]The SMDGD is 3
1/2 now and this is the first year I am making her holiday dress out of dry clean only fabric! AAACCCKKKKK -- what is
wrong with me?!?!? When we were in Lizard Land earlier this month, I decided that she was old enough to pick out her
own fabric -- from a selection that DD and I chose. Neither of us had the brains to check the fabric content of the
choices offered! We knew we wanted a sheer dress with the skirt & partial bodice lined. The kid chose a darling
white sheer with nice sized candy canes and holly leaves outlined in silver sparkles and some tiny little round
peppermints scattered throughout. Lining is red taffeta and the sleeves and neck are bound with this and there is a red
satin bow. As soon as we got home and dropped off the fabric, I trotted myself down to the local Wally World and bought
the SMDGD a pair of "Dorothy" shoes -- lovely BRIGHT RED glitter encrusted shoes. I've wanted to buy these
for her since she was born and this is the first time I could justify spending about $15 for a pair of shoes the kid
will likely only wear 2 or 3 times -- LOL! So now the kid has a Christmas dress that MUST be dry cleaned and a pair of
Christmas shoes that can't be cleaned in *any* manner at all -- LOLOL! Now I have to find some suitable hair
"jewels" to finish the ensemble -- preferably as shiny and glittery and shimmery as possible. The child
takes after her GrandMother and LOVES her bling-bling -- LOLOL :-)! CiaoMeow >^;;^ PAX, Tia Mary
>^;;^[/quote:9ae3342ac1]


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Posted by off kilter quilter on Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:43 AM    Post subject: Re: MASSIVE happy dance

It feels glorious!!! Now, maybe I can find the time to squeeze in the overdue BOMs and get the kids clothed done, and
swap blocks (those will probably be first since that fabric is on the cutting table right now), then outfits for
Christmas picture (always taken in October so that we have them back in time)...argh....might have to shuffle a few
things. The rest of the stuff on my list can wait, no official deadline, but it would be nice to have them finished
before I had the business ready to roll. On that note, we have new neighbors, and one of them is a HS
senior....debating about offering to make her a dress for homecoming in exchange for advertising and small help around
the house vs. actually money for the dress (she buys fabric and pattern). off to bed now, Larisa AliceW wrote:
[quote:b7cc8f88e0]I am very envious, Larisa! I have an Irish triple chain that I have been trying to finish for some
time now. You may have just given me the push I needed! Can't wait to see your pix! I bet it feels real good, doesn't
it? Alice in NJ, Royal Cybrarian http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/ "Just about the time a woman thinks her work is
done, she becomes a grandmother." Edward H. Dreschnack "off kilter quilter"
<spamfree@somewherequiet.net> wrote in message news:noWdnSSrY6B5tnzZnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@adelphia.com... : Well, the
queen-size beast that started 6 years ago is finished. yep, : done, last stitich in place and neatly folded to give to
Dad when he : arrives on Thursday. : : I did take pictures, but they haven't been uploaded yet... might not get : to
them until sometime before the end of the month, given that we are in : the last week of summer vacation and all the
various stress points that : are going on. : : but, it's DONE!!!!!!!!! : : Larisa, cleaning out Ebay stuff then moving
on to other projects - like : the kids clothing which is clogging up my futon, which needs to be : cleared off so that I
can move it and rearrange the rest of the sewing room. [/quote:b7cc8f88e0]


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View entire thread: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?
Posted by Pati Cook on Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:47 PM    Post subject: Re: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Actually, the basic sizing is standardized, what is not is the amount of ease allowed in the pattern. Most patterns
have to have some ease to allow you to move/breathe and so on. Very stretchy knits don't need much, if any ease, very
crisp fabrics usually need more ease. That is why patterns that are designated for knits only don't work well in
wovens and patterns designed for wovens may feel way to big when made in a stretchy (even moderately stretchy) knit.
<G> Clothes are much more complicated than quilts, but I love sewing them. <G> Then there is the style
ease that is added to patterns. Things like "big shirts" have a lot more ease than a more fitted shirt and
so on. Best thing to do is to measure the pattern against your measurements to see what is what. If you have something
that fits the way you like, then measure that garment in the same places as you measure the pattern. It will get you
close to right. If in doubt, make it bigger. You can more easily take in most places than let them out. <VBG> I
really wish I had a way to help all of you that have problems to figure them out in person. Sigh. It is so simple once
you know what to do. May take some time, but the results is so worth it. Pati, in Phx NightMist wrote:
[quote:5219234aa2]On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:49:49 -0500, "dogmom" amy@squirrel-solutions.com> wrote:
Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any of y'all know where I can go to get the
measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size indicated by measurements on the
pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on this group but you guys know
everything, for which I am always so grateful... Is this what you were looking for?
http://www.fibergypsy.com/Charts_and_Other_Helpful_Resources/Size_and_Measurement_Charts/ However as others have
pointed out, standard sizing seems to have gone right out the window over the past couple of decades. When I buy a
pattern anymore I figure that the measurements are merely vague sort of general suggestions, and assume from the start
that I am going to have to do alterations. It's rather freeing actually, if I see something I like and they only have
it a size or so too large or too small I buy it anyway because hey, I have to alter it anyhow. NightMist doing a lot of
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Posted by Kate Dicey on Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:21 AM    Post subject: Re: OT: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

dogmom wrote: [quote:7c8431f847]Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do any of
y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress the size
indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was posted on
this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful... TIA Dogmom I do a lot of clothing
stuff, much of it for customers. The one thing I[/quote:7c8431f847] tell them first off if they are buying a pattern is
to buy it for their MEASURED size, not their RTW size. Then I measure again and make a toile to test it. With some
of the present crop of customers I'm on the second or third toile! There is a chart of standard sizes and another of
standard ease allowances on my web site, but what you need to remember is that all of these are approximate! The only
way to go is to test the pattern in gash fabric, make the alterations, transfer them to the paper, and try again...
The only pattern I've been able to use in YEARS straight out of the packet, with the only alteration being added length
for the lass being 6'2", is the glorious one from Australia that I bought for a bridesmaid. My latest skirts
for me were cut originally using a Vogue pattern, cut size 16 with a size 14 waist because that's what the pattern
said I needed... It was so much too big that I cut the pattern down and the next one was cut size 14 with a size 12
waist that I then took in... It's still a bit big! ARGH! As for which make is most accurate... Well... Vogue
Designer ones are a better fit than most, and more consistent than others. Simplicity are VERY variable: I've had
some that were close to perfect and others that were so big folk wandered around in them for days looking for the way
out... KwikSew are pretty good, and I've had fair success with Burda in the past. I'm playing with pattern software
at the moment, and so far results are good. It's a bit labour intense getting the sloper correct, but once that is
fixed, you can churn out many different styles with only minor modifications to the basic chart, and the software does
all the hard stuff of calculation for stretch and woven fabric and puts in whatever ease you like... :) -- Kate
XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!


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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:11 PM    Post subject: Re: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

Howdy! Light dawns: *see below* On 6/21/06 1:54 PM, in article xBgmg.9254$lp.3386@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net,
"Polly Esther" <mistercleen@mindspring.com> wrote: [quote:a74150bc2d]I will try to be brief and
unemotional. There is no such thing as standard with clothing pattern measurements. You can not be certain even that
if a Simplicity size 8 fits you that 'another design', same size, printed the same day will also fit. And (!) if you
actually read all the fine print in the instructions, sometimes they will give you a clue such as " two inches
ease" allowed. Whatever that means. It may mean that if you swell up like roadkill, the garment will fit. Maybe.
The only real solution is to make a garment from the pattern to test the size. [/quote:a74150bc2d] **This would explain
my Aunt Kay's wardrobe. She never got past the testing stage. Muslin launders well, tho', so she said.**
[quote:a74150bc2d]Our British friends call this test a 'muslin'. Even this test won't work unless you test with a fabric
that is very similar in stretch, as in: don't test with an old hunk of corduroy if you are going to make the real
garment from a fabric with a little or a lot of give. You can do this. It just takes more time and patience than it
should. Polly "dogmom" asked > Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--
do any of y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If I sew a dress
the size indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the link was
posted on this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful... [/quote:a74150bc2d]
Ragmop/Sandy--Life's too short to use it up trying to sew clothing, IMO; besides, I'm used to hemming
everything... ;-D


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Posted by Polly Esther on Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:54 PM    Post subject: Re: Clothing Pattern Sizes?

I will try to be brief and unemotional. There is no such thing as standard with clothing pattern measurements. You
can not be certain even that if a Simplicity size 8 fits you that 'another design', same size, printed the same day
will also fit. And (!) if you actually read all the fine print in the instructions, sometimes they will give you a
clue such as " two inches ease" allowed. Whatever that means. It may mean that if you swell up like
roadkill, the garment will fit. Maybe. The only real solution is to make a garment from the pattern to test the
size. Our British friends call this test a 'muslin'. Even this test won't work unless you test with a fabric that is
very similar in stretch, as in: don't test with an old hunk of corduroy if you are going to make the real garment from
a fabric with a little or a lot of give. You can do this. It just takes more time and patience than it should. Polly
"dogmom" asked > Dagnabit, I KNOW I saw a link for this just recently but didn't save it--do
[quote:0108c5b519]any of y'all know where I can go to get the measurements for clothing patterns which are ACCURATE? If
I sew a dress the size indicated by measurements on the pattern envelope, it's so big I can swim in it. I'm not sure the
link was posted on this group but you guys know everything, for which I am always so grateful...[/quote:0108c5b519]


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View entire thread: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching
Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:21 PM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

On 10/22/06 12:45 PM, in article C161184F.1460%egirl22@verizon.net, "ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net>
wrote: [quote:373a09b83e]On 10/22/06 9:09 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: So,
let me describe my week, so far - a thankfully light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting
of the American Jewish Genealogical Society. AND both children are playing travel hockey. Interesting. So -
Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his flight. Drove back to Londonderry and went looking for
"hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone rings - it's DH. He forgot to remove his Swiss Army
knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up Lucky that he remembered tix, id, & head.... Next
time - just leave him with a self-addressed stamped envelope to drop the "forbidden" items in the psot and
save you the trip. Poor baby. had held from interrupted trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find
under armor for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been
watching DD. Glad you got the turtleneck for yourself. *snip* with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best
hotel in Lake Placid for tournament in Feb. Help DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45
PM. Haul stinky gears in house for washing. Done Wish we could think of a Lake Placid place - but our crew generally
stays on the training campus - or last time, rented some condos. We know where to stay but I still needed to explain
that you don't want to[/quote:373a09b83e] walk the 10 blocks from the Hilton if it is snowing..... [quote:373a09b83e]
Why are you hauling the stinky gear????? You haul sticks for little one - little one must haul own gear. Big own
definitely must haul own gear... Can take leg pads out - or do the I'm cool throw over shoulder goalie thing. If he
didn't need the head so bad, he'd have done it. He swore he was going[/quote:373a09b83e] to burst otherwise and the
toilet sure needed an air out after. [quote:373a09b83e]But they've got to haul their own gear....Baking soda.. But the
big bag at Costco. Cup in every wash load. Your day sounds like me - and now you can laugh - as DH left his stinkin'
ref gear to fester in the bag for a few days - for the 3rd week in a row - and first thing this morning -I'm sticking my
hands in that wet, smelly, mess to wash it all - as we call it - the full monty - including the ref pants with pads
built in. At least there were 3 other towel rolls full of the other sets of used understuff (leggings, undersarmor long
sleeve shirts) and man does that synthetic hold some stench. I should have stock in Arm & Hammer (I do swear by it
- added to the detergent). [/quote:373a09b83e] I use vinegar - the bulk white Heinz. [quote:373a09b83e] Friday - easy
day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the kids and a
salad for me DELIVERED Yeah for you! I'm getting stuff ready to send your next stitchin' package. [/quote:373a09b83e]
Tonight, I mi [quote:373a09b83e] Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until 11
AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening their names on prior to big game at Monarchs
next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and helmets) for a quick snack of soup and bread at
Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5 hours. It's so cute when the little ones come in
and out all dressed except their skates. There's a guy on DH's prior team (who skated on our team when we had one
together) that does that. We're always hysterical about "Tom the Mite" . He's a short guy, anyhow - and it's
a riot as he comes racing into the rink like a Mite - in all his gear, save the skates. I think the room is merciless -
asking if his mommy had to dress him, or the wife - or his 5 year old. Although, he grew up playing youth hockey in
Ohio - so maybe it's a holdover. [/quote:373a09b83e] I'll take pictures. Or you could consider coming up in Dec when she
has a pre-game at the Monarchs. [quote:373a09b83e]Work on door sign. Then best buddy and DD want to stay for public
skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her OK - this is when I'm questioning your sanity - you stayed for
them to public skate - after 2 practices????? [/quote:373a09b83e] DD and BestBuddy only get to see each other at
practices - we live in different towns and they are so good for each other. And they have so much fun on the ice.
Yesterday, they were easily the best skaters out there on hockey skates excluding the "ice guards". There is
one older man that comes most weeks. We all think he must have been a competitive figure skater at one time; he is pure
poetry to watch. [quote:373a09b83e] gear out of truck to make room for his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a
different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with
them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals
with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home - about 9:30 PM. Long day - long practice.
We used to do 2 hour practices when we could get the ice - alternating with the 90 min blocks. It's definitely a get
tired full practice. But, it does let you get a lot done. Today - I'll let you know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on
at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30 minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into his "game head". I do have a
parent bringing him home. Hmmm - tough day. Tell him to start getting his game face on en-route, and just deal with
getting there a little later. When he's a pro and has someone paying him to play then he won't have to compromise, but
given all your driving he should be able to deal. When we're heading out to only get there 20 min ahead - DH does the
game-face music in the car. I just don't talk to him. Oh, the game face music will be on in the car, but there is some
team[/quote:373a09b83e] building going in the locker room. [quote:373a09b83e] DH is armbanding U-18s right now - that
was the 12:40 - 2:40 game, (35 mi south near Potomac Mills) then he comes home - should be here about 3:30 (maybe)
'cause that rink has no showers for the refs (it's an awful ref room - in the coaches equipment/locker room. Alsways
stinks like old gear - in the cages. And there are disgusting carpetted "becnhes" to sit on. The women - we
usually get the figure skater pro's room - has a little couch, is clean, etc. The he's doing a house midget double -
other end of town - up in Rockville (30 mi? North) starting at 5:50. And I think I'm supposed to go and do ref evals on
the other sheet. So, we'll be out of there around 9:30. Lucky you! Monday's errand list is growing! And I need a
babysitter two nights next week. Sounds way too busy. I'm pissed - just got an e-mail from our patio/deck builder -
that our bank returned the last payment check (which was bout 7% of the bill - which we'd paid all in cash quite on
time). First the guy put the check thru the wash. Then we gave him a new one. Then they lost that. Then someone came
and got yet another one. I'm thinking they held that a few days - but with our credit union we've had some issues. I
kept checking the account, no problem - and on Tuesday I moved some money into DH's account (shopping ?) and a couple of
hours later replaced the money. The account doesn't let you transfer money out - more than the available balance - so
if the check was in process it would shouw a lower balance than the items that have gone through. No such thing. And,
of course, within hours the balance was back up. So, now I've got to go fight with the bank, and get some big certified
check - and pay the $25 to the builder (that we're a little annoyed with anyhow) and get back the $20 the bank deducted.
I just can't figure out how when there was at least $1000 more than the check in question in the account they can bounce
a check, and deduct the fee. [/quote:373a09b83e] What a PITA [quote:373a09b83e] Babysitter - hope it's for fun nights!
[/quote:373a09b83e] Yah right, they are nights when ice time for him starts at her bedtime. [quote:373a09b83e]I'll be
getting our planting all done - the HOA just sent us a nastygram - I have 25 more days to get all my plant containers
cleaned up, and the mulch (under a tarp) removed. We're bad. I'm hoping for a garden day or three next
week....[/quote:373a09b83e] Cheryl


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Posted by ellice on Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:45 PM    Post subject: Re: Off topic - a little tiny bit of stitching

On 10/22/06 9:09 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: [quote:6cfe5d75cc] So, let me
describe my week, so far - a thankfully light one. DH is out of town; he's in Salt Lake City Utah at the meeting of the
American Jewish Genealogical Society. AND both children are playing travel hockey. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Interesting.
[quote:6cfe5d75cc] So - Wednesday, I drove DH to the airport to drop him off for his flight. Drove back to Londonderry
and went looking for "hoodies" (aka hooded sweatshirts) for DS. Cell phone rings - it's DH. He forgot to
remove his Swiss Army knife, a gift from his late father. Run back to airport, pick up [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Lucky that
he remembered tix, id, & head.... Next time - just leave him with a self-addressed stamped envelope to drop the
"forbidden" items in the psot and save you the trip. Poor baby. [quote:6cfe5d75cc]had held from interrupted
trip to Marshall's (a discount clothing store). Also find under armor for DD and a gorgeous, silky black turtleneck for
me. And a box of chocolates from neighbor who's been watching DD. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Glad you got the turtleneck for
yourself. [quote:6cfe5d75cc] *snip* with team Mom for DS's team; have brain picked over best hotel in Lake Placid for
tournament in Feb. Help DD study for spelling test. Home - about 9 PM - I left home about 2:45 PM. Haul stinky gears in
house for washing. Done [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Wish we could think of a Lake Placid place - but our crew generally stays on
the training campus - or last time, rented some condos. Why are you hauling the stinky gear????? You haul sticks for
little one - little one must haul own gear. Big own definitely must haul own gear... Can take leg pads out - or do the
I'm cool throw over shoulder goalie thing. But they've got to haul their own gear....Baking soda.. But the big bag at
Costco. Cup in every wash load. Your day sounds like me - and now you can laugh - as DH left his stinkin' ref gear to
fester in the bag for a few days - for the 3rd week in a row - and first thing this morning -I'm sticking my hands in
that wet, smelly, mess to wash it all - as we call it - the full monty - including the ref pants with pads built in. At
least there were 3 other towel rolls full of the other sets of used understuff (leggings, undersarmor long sleeve
shirts) and man does that synthetic hold some stench. I should have stock in Arm & Hammer (I do swear by it - added
to the detergent). [quote:6cfe5d75cc] Friday - easy day - never left the house. Girl friend came over for coffee, did
laundry, stitched, ordered pizza for the kids and a salad for me DELIVERED [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Yeah for you! I'm
getting stuff ready to send your next stitchin' package. [quote:6cfe5d75cc] Saturday - leave home at 8:45 AM for DD's
first ice time. She skates from 9:45 until 11 AM, hangs in locker room with team, while I collect jerseys for screening
their names on prior to big game at Monarchs next weekend. We leave (with her in her gear, minus skates, gloves and
helmets) for a quick snack of soup and bread at Panera. Go back to rink for practice with her travel team - for 1.5
hours. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] It's so cute when the little ones come in and out all dressed except their skates. There's a
guy on DH's prior team (who skated on our team when we had one together) that does that. We're always hysterical about
"Tom the Mite" . He's a short guy, anyhow - and it's a riot as he comes racing into the rink like a Mite - in
all his gear, save the skates. I think the room is merciless - asking if his mommy had to dress him, or the wife - or
his 5 year old. Although, he grew up playing youth hockey in Ohio - so maybe it's a holdover. [quote:6cfe5d75cc]Work
on door sign. Then best buddy and DD want to stay for public skate. Finally leave rink at 3:30. Drive home. Get her
[/quote:6cfe5d75cc] OK - this is when I'm questioning your sanity - you stayed for them to public skate - after 2
practices????? [quote:6cfe5d75cc]gear out of truck to make room for his. Toss in load of laundry. Drive him to a
different, further away rink for a TWO HOUR and 15 MINUTE practice. See one of his old coaches; shoot the breeze with
them. Leave, go get light dinner with DD. Drive back to rink watch some of practice. Stitch. Try to make balloon animals
with DD. Watch practice. Stitch. Wait for DS to get out of shower.... Home - about 9:30 PM. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Long day
- long practice. We used to do 2 hour practices when we could get the ice - alternating with the 90 min blocks. It's
definitely a get tired full practice. But, it does let you get a lot done. [quote:6cfe5d75cc]Today - I'll let you
know! She's on ice at 4:30 PM, he's on at 8 PM and the rinks are about 30 minutes apart. He likes an hour to get into
his "game head". I do have a parent bringing him home. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc] Hmmm - tough day. Tell him to
start getting his game face on en-route, and just deal with getting there a little later. When he's a pro and has
someone paying him to play then he won't have to compromise, but given all your driving he should be able to deal. When
we're heading out to only get there 20 min ahead - DH does the game-face music in the car. I just don't talk to him.
DH is armbanding U-18s right now - that was the 12:40 - 2:40 game, (35 mi south near Potomac Mills) then he comes home
- should be here about 3:30 (maybe) 'cause that rink has no showers for the refs (it's an awful ref room - in the
coaches equipment/locker room. Alsways stinks like old gear - in the cages. And there are disgusting carpetted
"becnhes" to sit on. The women - we usually get the figure skater pro's room - has a little couch, is clean,
etc. The he's doing a house midget double - other end of town - up in Rockville (30 mi? North) starting at 5:50. And I
think I'm supposed to go and do ref evals on the other sheet. So, we'll be out of there around 9:30.
[quote:6cfe5d75cc]Monday's errand list is growing! And I need a babysitter two nights next week. [/quote:6cfe5d75cc]
Sounds way too busy. I'm pissed - just got an e-mail from our patio/deck builder - that our bank returned the last
payment check (which was bout 7% of the bill - which we'd paid all in cash quite on time). First the guy put the check
thru the wash. Then we gave him a new one. Then they lost that. Then someone came and got yet another one. I'm
thinking they held that a few days - but with our credit union we've had some issues. I kept checking the account, no
problem - and on Tuesday I moved some money into DH's account (shopping ?) and a couple of hours later replaced the
money. The account doesn't let you transfer money out - more than the available balance - so if the check was in
process it would shouw a lower balance than the items that have gone through. No such thing. And, of course, within
hours the balance was back up. So, now I've got to go fight with the bank, and get some big certified check - and pay
the $25 to the builder (that we're a little annoyed with anyhow) and get back the $20 the bank deducted. I just can't
figure out how when there was at least $1000 more than the check in question in the account they can bounce a check, and
deduct the fee. Babysitter - hope it's for fun nights! I'll be getting our planting all done - the HOA just sent us a
nastygram - I have 25 more days to get all my plant containers cleaned up, and the mulch (under a tarp) removed. We're
bad. Ellice


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Posted by ellice on Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:42 PM    Post subject: Re: Helllloooooooooooooo?

On 10/21/06 10:37 AM, "Lucille" <lzolty@adelphia.net> wrote: [quote:19bee7c4c5] "ellice"
<egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C15FA612.1430%egirl22@verizon.net... *snip* - and downstairs a very
casual sandwhich/coffee/bakery stop (counter & takeout). Evidently, someone had been put at our lovely reserved
corner table in the main dining room, and as we didn't want to sit by the kitchen passage we were happy to move to the
rear garden room - by a window - very nice. However .... The table just adjacent - over DH's shoulder - had 6 people -
evidently an older couple (mid- 60s), a woman that looked about 30 from the rear and was likely about 60 (with a
stretched face-lift, really straw like bleached out hair, and the obligatory leopard print stretch top to go with her
enormous Chanel bag), her husband (we think) and a couple in their mid-early 30s. The blonde - she was tanked. Really
tanked. The other older woman was her sister - who wasn't quite as tanked - but sounded like she either came from
munchkin land or was inhaling helium. The young couple, and older gent were fine - and the other guy - well, we
realized that when he spoke he was quite slurred, and DH thought he was going to break his neck between the head
flopping back to stare at the lights, and then flopping forward into the table. The "blonde" was shrieking,
arms waving, telling tales - and sadly - they weren't even funny. Finely - at least twice - when all the tables around
turned to look - the older guy and the young guy did the stage whisper "SHHHHHH" . We figured out it was the
older woman's birthday, and the young couple - her son. We actually *snip* I'm delighted that you had such a great
day, but I must take exception to something in the "older" couple remark. It's not bad to be 60, or in my
case somewhat older, and still look like thirty from behind. I just happen to be one of those people who get shocked
looks when I turn around and others realize that I'm not a kid any more. Of course that's because I weigh under 100
lbs. and I'm a little over 5' tall, and most of all because I refuse to dress like an "old" lady. No face
lift, or tight leopard print stretch tops, but I do love to dress in denims and t-shirts and/or casual clothes and
refuse to wear pastel polyester. Lucille [/quote:19bee7c4c5] Lucill,e - please don't take exception - I'm sure you look
lovely. It'f great to look younger than your age. But, I'd really be surprised if you looked like this woman - who
was so over the top and inappropriate. Between the tight leopard top (and I don't know any "young" people -
except kids that would wear this), the shiny spandex pants tucked into the boots, and the overbleached yellow-straw like
platinum with the roots showing through, and the way too tight eye stretch - I'm not sure how else to set the picture.
Given the situation - the couples in their 60s were "older" - the couple in the 30s - are younger. That's
just adjectives. I didn't say they were decrepit, ancient, belonged in a home, shouldn't be out in public, or use any
derogatory terms. My DM never wore polyester outfits, my parents dies when they were in their early 60s, and we think
of them as having been young when they dies. My DM wore nice jeans, a lot of slacks, and really cute dresses/ or
outfits - casual - but cute. There is however a certain easy to see sort of look, mostly remarkable when it's a woman
- that has that harsh, trying to hard not just to look younger, or youthful and show their energy, but absurdly younger
- as in someone who's clearly in their 40s trying to dress like a teen, expecially at work (and I've had that with some
at work) or someone who's pretty clearly much older - as in this woman's case - the hair, the look from behind was like
someone hanging out a lot at the local bar - and in good shape - spandex from top to bottom - in which case you say -
okay - some bad taste in clothes - and she's drunk/loud. When she turned - it was clear that she was much older than
the "rear" view - and her hands were definitely older - complete with talons, and lots, lots. Lots of
bracelets. Then you just think - well, it's a more desperate kind of look as opposed to aging well and looking great.
One of my best friedns is tiny - a size 4, no body fat, very fit & athletic - and only about 5'4" - when we
were in our 30s - she could get away with dressing like a tennager - at times. Even in the 40s - when you see her from
behind - she's a stunner. From up front - and this is a beautiful woman - but who has spent way too much time in the
tanning booth - her age is now showing. I'd trade for the shape, but even DH says it's getting a little kind of odd -
when we're out - she'll get a lot of attention - especially from guys passing at hockey games - but then you can see the
surprise when we're talking up close - that they realize she's not 22. I had an older colleague whose wife was born in
Ukraine. No doubt a gorgeous woman in her youth, and they had twin daughters. When we were all at some conference
together and it was very interesting. The wife - who is nice, and reminded us of a Gabor sister (very kind of ditzy,
but sweet) dressed very glamorously, kind of over the top in a mix of old and young, and lots of make-up all the time.
The girls, then seniors in high school - were pretty - however - they all wore a lot of the same clothes. It was weird
- these 2 17 year old girls were wearing clothes that were best described as 17 yearolds looking like 50 year olds
trying to look 25. Way too overdone, and just old, and lots of heavy make-up. End effect - wasn't a teen trying to
look 21 - just weird. My other female colleagues - well we actually all noticed this. It was just strange. Mom was in
her mid-50's, and the whole picture of these lovely woman/girls was kind of askew. IT was interesting. When some
people met the girls first - one of the guys asked the dad later if those were his "older girls" as he was
surprised that Dr. X had kids in their 30s. Ouch - Dr. x. was a close friend of mine, and I felt bad, but what do you
say - ummm, well, they are a bit overdressed??? Sorry if you were offended - not meant to be. ellice


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Posted by Lucille on Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:02 PM    Post subject: Re: Helllloooooooooooooo?

"ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C160FB83.145D%egirl22@verizon.net...
[quote:52fae1559c]On 10/21/06 10:37 AM, "Lucille" <lzolty@adelphia.net> wrote: "ellice"
<egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C15FA612.1430%egirl22@verizon.net... *snip* - and downstairs a very
casual sandwhich/coffee/bakery stop (counter & takeout). Evidently, someone had been put at our lovely reserved
corner table in the main dining room, and as we didn't want to sit by the kitchen passage we were happy to move to the
rear garden room - by a window - very nice. However .... The table just adjacent - over DH's shoulder - had 6 people -
evidently an older couple (mid- 60s), a woman that looked about 30 from the rear and was likely about 60 (with a
stretched face-lift, really straw like bleached out hair, and the obligatory leopard print stretch top to go with her
enormous Chanel bag), her husband (we think) and a couple in their mid-early 30s. The blonde - she was tanked. Really
tanked. The other older woman was her sister - who wasn't quite as tanked - but sounded like she either came from
munchkin land or was inhaling helium. The young couple, and older gent were fine - and the other guy - well, we
realized that when he spoke he was quite slurred, and DH thought he was going to break his neck between the head
flopping back to stare at the lights, and then flopping forward into the table. The "blonde" was shrieking,
arms waving, telling tales - and sadly - they weren't even funny. Finely - at least twice - when all the tables around
turned to look - the older guy and the young guy did the stage whisper "SHHHHHH" . We figured out it was the
older woman's birthday, and the young couple - her son. We actually *snip* I'm delighted that you had such a great
day, but I must take exception to something in the "older" couple remark. It's not bad to be 60, or in my
case somewhat older, and still look like thirty from behind. I just happen to be one of those people who get shocked
looks when I turn around and others realize that I'm not a kid any more. Of course that's because I weigh under 100
lbs. and I'm a little over 5' tall, and most of all because I refuse to dress like an "old" lady. No face
lift, or tight leopard print stretch tops, but I do love to dress in denims and t-shirts and/or casual clothes and
refuse to wear pastel polyester. Lucille Lucill,e - please don't take exception - I'm sure you look lovely. It'f
great to look younger than your age. But, I'd really be surprised if you looked like this woman - who was so over the
top and inappropriate. Between the tight leopard top (and I don't know any "young" people - except kids that
would wear this), the shiny spandex pants tucked into the boots, and the overbleached yellow-straw like platinum with
the roots showing through, and the way too tight eye stretch - I'm not sure how else to set the picture. Given the
situation - the couples in their 60s were "older" - the couple in the 30s - are younger. That's just
adjectives. I didn't say they were decrepit, ancient, belonged in a home, shouldn't be out in public, or use any
derogatory terms. My DM never wore polyester outfits, my parents dies when they were in their early 60s, and we think
of them as having been young when they dies. My DM wore nice jeans, a lot of slacks, and really cute dresses/ or
outfits - casual - but cute. There is however a certain easy to see sort of look, mostly remarkable when it's a woman
- that has that harsh, trying to hard not just to look younger, or youthful and show their energy, but absurdly younger
- as in someone who's clearly in their 40s trying to dress like a teen, expecially at work (and I've had that with some
at work) or someone who's pretty clearly much older - as in this woman's case - the hair, the look from behind was like
someone hanging out a lot at the local bar - and in good shape - spandex from top to bottom - in which case you say -
okay - some bad taste in clothes - and she's drunk/loud. When she turned - it was clear that she was much older than
the "rear" view - and her hands were definitely older - complete with talons, and lots, lots. Lots of
bracelets. Then you just think - well, it's a more desperate kind of look as opposed to aging well and looking great.
One of my best friedns is tiny - a size 4, no body fat, very fit & athletic - and only about 5'4" - when we
were in our 30s - she could get away with dressing like a tennager - at times. Even in the 40s - when you see her from
behind - she's a stunner. From up front - and this is a beautiful woman - but who has spent way too much time in the
tanning booth - her age is now showing. I'd trade for the shape, but even DH says it's getting a little kind of odd -
when we're out - she'll get a lot of attention - especially from guys passing at hockey games - but then you can see the
surprise when we're talking up close - that they realize she's not 22. I had an older colleague whose wife was born in
Ukraine. No doubt a gorgeous woman in her youth, and they had twin daughters. When we were all at some conference
together and it was very interesting. The wife - who is nice, and reminded us of a Gabor sister (very kind of ditzy,
but sweet) dressed very glamorously, kind of over the top in a mix of old and young, and lots of make-up all the time.
The girls, then seniors in high school - were pretty - however - they all wore a lot of the same clothes. It was weird
- these 2 17 year old girls were wearing clothes that were best described as 17 yearolds looking like 50 year olds
trying to look 25. Way too overdone, and just old, and lots of heavy make-up. End effect - wasn't a teen trying to
look 21 - just weird. My other female colleagues - well we actually all noticed this. It was just strange. Mom was in
her mid-50's, and the whole picture of these lovely woman/girls was kind of askew. IT was interesting. When some
people met the girls first - one of the guys asked the dad later if those were his "older girls" as he was
surprised that Dr. X had kids in their 30s. Ouch - Dr. x. was a close friend of mine, and I felt bad, but what do you
say - ummm, well, they are a bit overdressed??? Sorry if you were offended - not meant to be. ellice
[/quote:52fae1559c] Oh, I'm sorry Please don't be upset. I was just pulling your chain and I wasn't at all angry or
offended. Rather I was just pointing out that some of us are little, thin, reasonably well built people and at the
same time are "older." I'm one of those lucky ones. I would, however, like to say that tacky is tacky no
matter the age and the person you described would be tacky whether she was 15 or 50. Don't laugh but one of my biggest
problems is finding clothes that are appropriate for a 70 year old when you wear a size 2 or 3. Just picture a
silver haired lady dressed as a teeny bopper and you'll see what I mean. I know, a lot of you are thinking "I
should be lucky enough to have that problem," but it is sometimes a challenge to find conservative clothes in my
size. Casual isn't too big a deal because I live mostly in jeans and t-shirts, but dressy can be a pain. That's why
it's such fun to shop. It's like a treasure hunt. Lucille >


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Posted by Tia Mary on Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:43 PM    Post subject: Re: OT: Gun control in Canada and Dawson College.

Firefly wrote: [quote:5412020e05]..... we just realise that most townies just haven`t a clue what they`re talking about!
..... A quick, clean brain or heart shot by an expert is as instant and painless as you can get. It`s the hobbledehoys
with little or no real knowledge or training of shooting game properly who cause the suffering. ...... Therefore a
certain number have to be culled for the good of the herds. Peter has had to go on several courses on deer management
to qualify as an official deer culler/stalker. It seems to me that ANYONE who wants to shoot deer should be obliged to
do the same. Pat [/quote:5412020e05] I might be a townie but DH isn't -- he was born and raised in the far reaches
of northern Minnesota. He grew up hunting & fishing and when he turned 15 decided that it just wasn't that fun or
necessary so he quit. For the last 35 years of being married to him, I have "lived" with his family who
still hunt and fish for whatever is allowed during season. The nephews all hunt and they dress their own deer or moose
and they eat the meat. By association, I have learned all of the ins & outs of hunting -- and seen the headless,
skinned carcass of a huge deer hanging from the rafters of the nephew's garage, too! I realize that herds must be
culled but this is done by hopefully responsible, qualified and educated people. These people, while they do hunt the
animals are not what I consider "hunters" when they are doing this task. If all who hunt could guarantee a
quick, clean head the majority of the time, I STILL would object to hunting for any reason other than culling a herd.
Far too many "hunters" ARE townies who can shoot a gun but don't have the skill to kill a wild animal
quickly. I know there are a lot of people who use the meat from hunting because they might not have much meat on
the table otherwise. Well, we don't need to eat meat as often as we think we should. Actually we don't *need* to eat
meat -- any protein will do and there's always chicken or going fishing. I would be willing to bet that many of these
folks would be able to make do on whatever meat, fish or poultry they could afford to buy in the grocery. The
treatment of animals raised for meat production is NOT really germane to a discussion of hunting. And yes, I would
much rather have a wild animal die the way wild animals have died since they came into being and if that means
starving or being torn limb from limb by a bigger, meaner predatory animal like a wolf, then so be it. THAT is the
way nature ordered things before we decided to stick our noses in. I don't think we have any business in worrying
about making death a "kind" experience when the wild animal is being killed by something other than a human.
I still don't think that hunting is necessary in this country for the vast majority of people -- even those who are in
the lower income brackets -- we just don't need to be eating all that much meat. If WE, as humans, are killing an
animal raised specifically for it's flesh, then we should try and do it in the most humane way possible. That, of
course, would cost the people running the slaughter houses too much money. But again, that is NOT part of the
discussion germane to hunting. And yes, I have watched many science and learning shows so I do know what goes on in
slaughter houses and it has *nothing* to do with hunting. It is my firmly held belief that in today's society,
hunting is STILL the sanctioned killing of a living being for no really necessary reason. Yes, I know there are
native people whose culture requires them to hunt (Inuit for example) and I am not including them in the equation.
I'm referring to people who by and large live with and make use of the basic comforts of today's society. If that
disadvantaged person goes out and kills a deer for the meat, he's got to put that meat in a freezer somewhere so he is
either paying for the freezer and the power to run it or he is paying someone else for the use of their equipment.
That disadvantaged person has had to spend money on the gun, the ammo, the hunting license, the gas to get to the
hunting area, etc. That's all money that could have been spent to purchase some sort of protein food at the local
grocery. And remember, while we DO need protein, very few of us need as much of it as we think we do whether it is
venison or beef or pork or poultry or fish. CiaoMeow >^;;^< PAX, Tia Mary >^;;^< (RCTQ Queen of
Kitties) Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their whiskers! Visit my Photo albums
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Posted by Benjamin Mark on Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:54 AM    Post subject: TIDBITS 10/01/06

If any of you want Tidbits emailed directly, let me know and I'll take care of it. Tidbits may be reprinted without
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====================================== Buttons When did they originate? Why did they originate? And most important
... why do men button from right to left and women from left to right? Intriguing questions ... eh wot? So ... let's
start with origins. How does 2000 B.C. in Southern Asia sound? At that time they were not used to close shirts. Rather
.... they were ornamental. Pins and belts were enough to keep one's shirt on. Early Greeks and Romans used them to
decorate their tunics and togas and capes. They were elaborate pieces of jewelry. Carved ivory. Gold studded with
jewels. And then more expensive fabrics entered the picture. And pins began to ruin the material. And so buttonholes
were invented in order to accommodate the buttons which now began to hold the clothing in place. And the rage began.
Fashion and pragmatism united to form excess. Buttons down the front. Buttons along the sleeve. Buttons down the legs.
King Francis I of France ordered 13,400 buttons of gold which were to be sewn into one velvet garment. 13,400 buttons?
Ye gads. You want to talk status symbols. Francis could have taught all of us a thing or two. But the great conundrum
was yet to be solved. Modern scholars pondered .... as well as many everyday man and woman. Why oh why do men button
from right to left and women button from left to right? Is there a simple answer for this? If you have one, dear
Benjamin, share your knowledge with us ... won't you? Of course I will. Here's the story. The practice dates back to
the fifteenth century. Men ... wherever they were ... on the battlefield .... in court ... quickly casting on their
clothes after a quickie with the scullery maid ... they pretty much dressed themselves. And since they were ... for the
most part ... right-handed ... they buttoned from right to left. Women on the other hand ... lived a life more filled
with leisure and pampering. Those that could afford buttons ... did not dress themselves. Nay nay. They had servants
dress them. And as these servants ... also for the most part right-handed ... facing the ladies while dressing them ...
also buttoned from right to left. However ... right to left was a mirror image ... and the lady being dressed ended up
with her buttons going from left to right. And the practice stuck ... and the tailors of the day complied with what had
become tradition. And now you know ... and will surely sleep better this evening for the knowledge. Of course ... there
are intrinsic dangers that come with the wearing of buttons. Should you accidentally put a button into a hole it was not
intended for ... misfortune will occur that very day. Find a button ... you'll find a new friend. And of course ... most
important if you want to avoid disaster in life ... only button an odd number of buttons. You have a two button shirt
... only button one button. A three button ... do all three. And so on. So ... should you be attending a function one
day ... and you see this slovenly dressed person with a button unbuttoned where it should be buttoned ... rethink you
opinion of this person. He or she may well be extremely astute ... and is simply leaving one button open in order to
avoid disaster. This ... as opposed to the nattily dressed, throw-caution-to-the-winds individuals who care more about
fashion than personal security. We all know those types. For those of you who are new to this thing called
Tidbits...may I direct you to my home page at www.tyler-adam.com where you will scroll down the left side menu till
you get to the area that says Current Tidbits ... and then click on it in order to view an image of multi-colored
buttons of diamonds and rubies and gold ... dating in style back to the 17th century. This set of 15 is worth around
$8500.00 And there ya have it. That's it for this week folks. Catch you all next week. Benjamin Mark All issues of
Tidbits are copyrighted and available from our home page. All rights reserved.


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Posted by Benjamin Mark on Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:54 AM    Post subject: TIDBITS 10/01/06

If any of you want Tidbits emailed directly, let me know and I'll take care of it. Tidbits may be reprinted without
charge -- with attribution. Additionally, if you know of anyone who you think would enjoy Tidbits, please make them
aware of us. URL (http://www.tyler-adam.com). We encourage you to forward this email to friends and colleagues.
====================================== Buttons When did they originate? Why did they originate? And most important
... why do men button from right to left and women from left to right? Intriguing questions ... eh wot? So ... let's
start with origins. How does 2000 B.C. in Southern Asia sound? At that time they were not used to close shirts. Rather
.... they were ornamental. Pins and belts were enough to keep one's shirt on. Early Greeks and Romans used them to
decorate their tunics and togas and capes. They were elaborate pieces of jewelry. Carved ivory. Gold studded with
jewels. And then more expensive fabrics entered the picture. And pins began to ruin the material. And so buttonholes
were invented in order to accommodate the buttons which now began to hold the clothing in place. And the rage began.
Fashion and pragmatism united to form excess. Buttons down the front. Buttons along the sleeve. Buttons down the legs.
King Francis I of France ordered 13,400 buttons of gold which were to be sewn into one velvet garment. 13,400 buttons?
Ye gads. You want to talk status symbols. Francis could have taught all of us a thing or two. But the great conundrum
was yet to be solved. Modern scholars pondered .... as well as many everyday man and woman. Why oh why do men button
from right to left and women button from left to right? Is there a simple answer for this? If you have one, dear
Benjamin, share your knowledge with us ... won't you? Of course I will. Here's the story. The practice dates back to
the fifteenth century. Men ... wherever they were ... on the battlefield .... in court ... quickly casting on their
clothes after a quickie with the scullery maid ... they pretty much dressed themselves. And since they were ... for the
most part ... right-handed ... they buttoned from right to left. Women on the other hand ... lived a life more filled
with leisure and pampering. Those that could afford buttons ... did not dress themselves. Nay nay. They had servants
dress them. And as these servants ... also for the most part right-handed ... facing the ladies while dressing them ...
also buttoned from right to left. However ... right to left was a mirror image ... and the lady being dressed ended up
with her buttons going from left to right. And the practice stuck ... and the tailors of the day complied with what had
become tradition. And now you know ... and will surely sleep better this evening for the knowledge. Of course ... there
are intrinsic dangers that come with the wearing of buttons. Should you accidentally put a button into a hole it was not
intended for ... misfortune will occur that very day. Find a button ... you'll find a new friend. And of course ... most
important if you want to avoid disaster in life ... only button an odd number of buttons. You have a two button shirt
... only button one button. A three button ... do all three. And so on. So ... should you be attending a function one
day ... and you see this slovenly dressed person with a button unbuttoned where it should be buttoned ... rethink you
opinion of this person. He or she may well be extremely astute ... and is simply leaving one button open in order to
avoid disaster. This ... as opposed to the nattily dressed, throw-caution-to-the-winds individuals who care more about
fashion than personal security. We all know those types. For those of you who are new to this thing called
Tidbits...may I direct you to my home page at www.tyler-adam.com where you will scroll down the left side menu till
you get to the area that says Current Tidbits ... and then click on it in order to view an image of multi-colored
buttons of diamonds and rubies and gold ... dating in style back to the 17th century. This set of 15 is worth around
$8500.00 And there ya have it. That's it for this week folks. Catch you all next week. Benjamin Mark All issues of
Tidbits are copyrighted and available from our home page. All rights reserved.


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Posted by Benjamin Mark on Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:44 PM    Post subject: TIDBITS 10/01/06

If any of you want Tidbits emailed directly, let me know and I'll take care of it. Tidbits may be reprinted without
charge -- with attribution. Additionally, if you know of anyone who you think would enjoy Tidbits, please make them
aware of us. URL (http://www.tyler-adam.com). We encourage you to forward this email to friends and colleagues.
====================================== Buttons When did they originate? Why did they originate? And most important
... why do men button from right to left and women from left to right? Intriguing questions ... eh wot? So ... let's
start with origins. How does 2000 B.C. in Southern Asia sound? At that time they were not used to close shirts. Rather
.... they were ornamental. Pins and belts were enough to keep one's shirt on. Early Greeks and Romans used them to
decorate their tunics and togas and capes. They were elaborate pieces of jewelry. Carved ivory. Gold studded with
jewels. And then more expensive fabrics entered the picture. And pins began to ruin the material. And so buttonholes
were invented in order to accommodate the buttons which now began to hold the clothing in place. And the rage began.
Fashion and pragmatism united to form excess. Buttons down the front. Buttons along the sleeve. Buttons down the legs.
King Francis I of France ordered 13,400 buttons of gold which were to be sewn into one velvet garment. 13,400 buttons?
Ye gads. You want to talk status symbols. Francis could have taught all of us a thing or two. But the great conundrum
was yet to be solved. Modern scholars pondered .... as well as many everyday man and woman. Why oh why do men button
from right to left and women button from left to right? Is there a simple answer for this? If you have one, dear
Benjamin, share your knowledge with us ... won't you? Of course I will. Here's the story. The practice dates back to
the fifteenth century. Men ... wherever they were ... on the battlefield .... in court ... quickly casting on their
clothes after a quickie with the scullery maid ... they pretty much dressed themselves. And since they were ... for the
most part ... right-handed ... they buttoned from right to left. Women on the other hand ... lived a life more filled
with leisure and pampering. Those that could afford buttons ... did not dress themselves. Nay nay. They had servants
dress them. And as these servants ... also for the most part right-handed ... facing the ladies while dressing them ...
also buttoned from right to left. However ... right to left was a mirror image ... and the lady being dressed ended up
with her buttons going from left to right. And the practice stuck ... and the tailors of the day complied with what had
become tradition. And now you know ... and will surely sleep better this evening for the knowledge. Of course ... there
are intrinsic dangers that come with the wearing of buttons. Should you accidentally put a button into a hole it was not
intended for ... misfortune will occur that very day. Find a button ... you'll find a new friend. And of course ... most
important if you want to avoid disaster in life ... only button an odd number of buttons. You have a two button shirt
... only button one button. A three button ... do all three. And so on. So ... should you be attending a function one
day ... and you see this slovenly dressed person with a button unbuttoned where it should be buttoned ... rethink you
opinion of this person. He or she may well be extremely astute ... and is simply leaving one button open in order to
avoid disaster. This ... as opposed to the nattily dressed, throw-caution-to-the-winds individuals who care more about
fashion than personal security. We all know those types. For those of you who are new to this thing called
Tidbits...may I direct you to my home page at www.tyler-adam.com where you will scroll down the left side menu till
you get to the area that says Current Tidbits ... and then click on it in order to view an image of multi-colored
buttons of diamonds and rubies and gold ... dating in style back to the 17th century. This set of 15 is worth around
$8500.00 And there ya have it. That's it for this week folks. Catch you all next week. Benjamin Mark All issues of
Tidbits are copyrighted and available from our home page. All rights reserved.


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Posted by Dorothy McNutt on Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:45 AM    Post subject: Re: squished and carded!

Thanks for the birthday wishes. I had forgot my birthday is this week end Nov 12. Oh well I am another year older.
And I want to wish Happy Birthdays to everyone having a birthday in this month. Dreamboat
http://community.webshots.com/user/dreamboat116 "Boca Jan" <poo_de_doo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:nPednZ1-CY8kr9PYnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@adelphia.com... [quote:f3be86c16f]Happy birthday to all you November birthdays. I
don't have a directory yet, so can't squish you or card you, but I'll send my best wishes just the same. -- Boca Jan
Florida - Land of the Hurricanes http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/poo_de_doo/myphotos "Elizabeth Young"
<lizyoung@fenris.net> wrote in message news:KUp3h.22637$TV3.5533@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... I've been away from
the group for a while, but the lovely birthday squishes and so on lured me back. Looks like I missed the call for the
directory, but no worries, my info is the same. Wouldn't I like to be carded again! (ok, so not really) What I mean by
carded is the animated emailed birthday cake card I got from A Certain Person With Cats in Oz Thank you everyone! I
took my Loud Log Cabin quilt to the high school football game on Friday to watch the sort-of-stepson's last game as drum
major. Then I threw it in the wash because the stands were quite muddy. By halftime the players were so covered in mud
that I couldn't tell the white uniforms from the dark green uniforms and the fog was rising so the players were
anonymous shapes somewhere out there on the field. Weird experience. I'm contemplating a very large pineapple block
(just one block, 18" or so) baby quilt for a friend. She likes to dress all in black (once she painted her bedroom
dark green) so I'm thinking that I'll make the block out of screaming tropical colors, frame it in some strips of dark
colors with neon accents, and then back it with something tropical but with a black background. contemplation does not
take as much time from homework as actual quilting does liz young in cloudy california [/quote:f3be86c16f]


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Posted by Boca Jan on Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:50 PM    Post subject: Re: squished and carded!

Happy birthday to all you November birthdays. I don't have a directory yet, so can't squish you or card you, but I'll
send my best wishes just the same. -- Boca Jan Florida - Land of the Hurricanes
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/poo_de_doo/myphotos "Elizabeth Young" <lizyoung@fenris.net> wrote in
message news:KUp3h.22637$TV3.5533@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... [quote:ff40fba327]I've been away from the group for a
while, but the lovely birthday squishes and so on lured me back. Looks like I missed the call for the directory, but no
worries, my info is the same. Wouldn't I like to be carded again! (ok, so not really) What I mean by carded is the
animated emailed birthday cake card I got from A Certain Person With Cats in Oz Thank you everyone! I took my Loud Log
Cabin quilt to the high school football game on Friday to watch the sort-of-stepson's last game as drum major. Then I
threw it in the wash because the stands were quite muddy. By halftime the players were so covered in mud that I couldn't
tell the white uniforms from the dark green uniforms and the fog was rising so the players were anonymous shapes
somewhere out there on the field. Weird experience. I'm contemplating a very large pineapple block (just one block,
18" or so) baby quilt for a friend. She likes to dress all in black (once she painted her bedroom dark green) so
I'm thinking that I'll make the block out of screaming tropical colors, frame it in some strips of dark colors with neon
accents, and then back it with something tropical but with a black background. contemplation does not take as much time
from homework as actual quilting does liz young in cloudy california[/quote:ff40fba327]


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Posted by Elizabeth Young on Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:17 PM    Post subject: squished and carded!

I've been away from the group for a while, but the lovely birthday squishes and so on lured me back. Looks like I
missed the call for the directory, but no worries, my info is the same. Wouldn't I like to be carded again! (ok, so
not really) What I mean by carded is the animated emailed birthday cake card I got from A Certain Person With Cats in
Oz Thank you everyone! I took my Loud Log Cabin quilt to the high school football game on Friday to watch the sort-
of-stepson's last game as drum major. Then I threw it in the wash because the stands were quite muddy. By halftime the
players were so covered in mud that I couldn't tell the white uniforms from the dark green uniforms and the fog was
rising so the players were anonymous shapes somewhere out there on the field. Weird experience. I'm contemplating a
very large pineapple block (just one block, 18" or so) baby quilt for a friend. She likes to dress all in black
(once she painted her bedroom dark green) so I'm thinking that I'll make the block out of screaming tropical colors,
frame it in some strips of dark colors with neon accents, and then back it with something tropical but with a black
background. contemplation does not take as much time from homework as actual quilting does liz young in cloudy
california


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Posted by Cats on Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:47 AM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

No real help to offer - but it all sounds like fun -- Cheryl & the Cats in OZ o o o o
o o ( > Y < ) ( > Y < ) ( > Y < ) Enness Boofhead Donut
http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "quilter"
<l_marsella@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1161988736.472440.294470@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... : Well, it
is one day until I need to wear a halloween costume, and : despite my best attempts at sending positive thoughts
toward the fabric : pile, my lovely tropical fabric from tahiti has NOT turned itself into : a halloween costume. I'd
like to take some fabric and make it into a : simple tropical dress, probably strapless...basically, one step up from
: just wrapping it around my body and tying it (which I may have to do). : I'll at least hem the edges. At this point,
all I can think to do : besides that is maybe add some velcro. I certainly am not up to a : zipper or other closure.
It'd be nice to give it some shape, like a : bit of ruching (sp?) on the side or at the front or some darts, but is :
this waaay too hard? free tahiti fabric scrap to whoever can help! : I've never even hemmed a pair of pants on my
machine. The fabric I : have is a fairly thick 100% cotton fabric (bought for quilting really), : white, with a lovely
column of orange tropical flowers up the side. : : Plan B is to take a smaller piece (bright blue with white tropical
: flowers) and make a wrap skirt, but I don't really have anything : suitable for the top of the outfit (it's too cold
to wear a bikini top) : so a one-piece seemed easier. I think I may actually have a pattern : for a wrap skirt
somewhere around here, but I've never opened it. This : will all be accessorized by shell necklaces and plastic leis
and : flowers in the hair and a husband in a grass skirt and coconut bra (he : hasn't quite agreed to that part yet). :
: Why didn't I buy a pattern before now? : : Lynn, very impressed with anyone who can sew clothes :


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Posted by Pat in Virginia on Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:47 PM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

Lynn: Fantastic, but I am surprised you aren't blue ... that was some commute! Anyhow, you and your cute fella look
marvelous. PAT quilter wrote: [quote:9c2e9989b6]Jane Kay wrote: My simplest dress/nightie (only done for little kids,
but should work) Thank you Jane! Unfortunately I didn't see this until the morning after, but it is interesting to
read anyway. I think I was complicating things because I really only had one piece big enough to make a dress out of,
and I wanted it for quilting so I didn't want to sew it too much (wanted to unpick it later), but also didn't want to
just wrap it sarong style, because I had to put a wool coat over it and have it hold up on a 40 minute subway commute!
I ended up seaming the sides roughly (didn't even cut them first, just folded and topstitched), folding down the top to
catch it in the side seams, then wrapping around my body and sewing in a well-positioned piece of velcro. I used one
safety pin to secure the loose fabric at the end, but I can't believe how well it stayed up all night. I also tied a
string around my waist (like you suggest with the elastic, only I used the strings of a coconut bra that hung by my
side, lol), and bloused it a bit. It all worked well enough for one night! Oh, here''s a photo, although you can't see
much sewing detail: http://family.webshots.com/photo/2457336850070246861oKGPfi Sooner or later I'll learn how to make a
real dress out of it. Garment sewing is on my list of "must learn some day"s. Lynn [/quote:9c2e9989b6]


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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:17 PM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

Howdy! Very nice, Lynn. (That was my idea, having you look like Dorothy Lamour <g>.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Lamour ) You look gorgeous. And so does your partner. Congrats! 40 minutes on
a subway-- in sandals and a wool coat? Brrrr! Ragmop/Sandy---admiring this cute couple On 10/29/06 7:24 AM, in
article 1162128270.893743.281340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "quilter" <l_marsella@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:9217f467ea]Jane Kay wrote: My simplest dress/nightie (only done for little kids, but should work) Thank you
Jane! Unfortunately I didn't see this until the morning after, but it is interesting to read anyway. I think I was
complicating things because I really only had one piece big enough to make a dress out of, and I wanted it for quilting
so I didn't want to sew it too much (wanted to unpick it later), but also didn't want to just wrap it sarong style,
because I had to put a wool coat over it and have it hold up on a 40 minute subway commute! I ended up seaming the
sides roughly (didn't even cut them first, just folded and topstitched), folding down the top to catch it in the side
seams, then wrapping around my body and sewing in a well-positioned piece of velcro. I used one safety pin to secure
the loose fabric at the end, but I can't believe how well it stayed up all night. I also tied a string around my waist
(like you suggest with the elastic, only I used the strings of a coconut bra that hung by my side, lol), and bloused it
a bit. It all worked well enough for one night! Oh, here''s a photo, although you can't see much sewing detail:
http://family.webshots.com/photo/2457336850070246861oKGPfi Sooner or later I'll learn how to make a real dress out of
it. Garment sewing is on my list of "must learn some day"s. Lynn [/quote:9217f467ea]


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Posted by quilter on Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:24 PM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

Jane Kay wrote: [quote:caa7eb8dc9]My simplest dress/nightie (only done for little kids, but should work)
[/quote:caa7eb8dc9] Thank you Jane! Unfortunately I didn't see this until the morning after, but it is interesting to
read anyway. I think I was complicating things because I really only had one piece big enough to make a dress out of,
and I wanted it for quilting so I didn't want to sew it too much (wanted to unpick it later), but also didn't want to
just wrap it sarong style, because I had to put a wool coat over it and have it hold up on a 40 minute subway commute!
I ended up seaming the sides roughly (didn't even cut them first, just folded and topstitched), folding down the top to
catch it in the side seams, then wrapping around my body and sewing in a well-positioned piece of velcro. I used one
safety pin to secure the loose fabric at the end, but I can't believe how well it stayed up all night. I also tied a
string around my waist (like you suggest with the elastic, only I used the strings of a coconut bra that hung by my
side, lol), and bloused it a bit. It all worked well enough for one night! Oh, here''s a photo, although you can't see
much sewing detail: http://family.webshots.com/photo/2457336850070246861oKGPfi Sooner or later I'll learn how to make a
real dress out of it. Garment sewing is on my list of "must learn some day"s. Lynn


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Posted by Jane Kay on Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:10 AM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

My simplest dress/nightie (only done for little kids, but should work) Test first with an old sheet or something &
use it for a cool nightie or a beach cover-up. Measure your body at the biggest circumference- bust, hips, whatever.
Add at least 6 inches for "ease" - room to move & sit. Sew a tube of fabric this wide and as long as you
want your dress to be, plus some extra for hems and fudge factor. If you are in a big hurry you can hem the bottom edge
with stitch witchery at this point. Put 2 long strings in reach, then step into the tube and pull it up until the
bottom is where you want it, and even. Adjust so that the seam(s) fall where you want. Tie a string around your waist
over the tube to hold it up. Measure UP from the bottom so that the hem is even. Now pull the top up and tie it where
you want the top to be, leaving some vertical looseness. Top should "blouse" a little. Generally, a woman
will need more fabric length in the top front and skirt back. Mark the string lines with a chalk pencil all the way
around-(easier if friend or hubby does this for you, especially the back) sew elastic in on the string lines. Hem top
& bottom edges, or turn the top edge to make a casing for the elastic. Add straps if you want them- the elastic
might be enough, but straps would hide your bra straps. Jane in NE Ohio "quilter"
<l_marsella@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1161988736.472440.294470@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:74c06d3ba8]Well, it is one day until I need to wear a halloween costume, and despite my best attempts at sending
positive thoughts toward the fabric pile, my lovely tropical fabric from tahiti has NOT turned itself into a halloween
costume. I'd like to take some fabric and make it into a simple tropical dress, probably strapless...basically, one
step up from just wrapping it around my body and tying it (which I may have to do). I'll at least hem the edges. At
this point, all I can think to do besides that is maybe add some velcro. I certainly am not up to a zipper or other
closure. It'd be nice to give it some shape, like a bit of ruching (sp?) on the side or at the front or some darts, but
is this waaay too hard? free tahiti fabric scrap to whoever can help! I've never even hemmed a pair of pants on my
machine. The fabric I have is a fairly thick 100% cotton fabric (bought for quilting really), white, with a lovely
column of orange tropical flowers up the side. Plan B is to take a smaller piece (bright blue with white tropical
flowers) and make a wrap skirt, but I don't really have anything suitable for the top of the outfit (it's too cold to
wear a bikini top) so a one-piece seemed easier. I think I may actually have a pattern for a wrap skirt somewhere
around here, but I've never opened it. This will all be accessorized by shell necklaces and plastic leis and flowers in
the hair and a husband in a grass skirt and coconut bra (he hasn't quite agreed to that part yet). Why didn't I buy a
pattern before now? Lynn, very impressed with anyone who can sew clothes [/quote:74c06d3ba8]


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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:19 AM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

Howdy! Fold over the top, hem it, add a length of elastic threaded thru' the hem, or insert a tie of some kind; tighten
around your upper chest, you get the built in gathers for some blousy effect. You can even use a big pin to hold the
ends of the elastic band or tie. Pink or hem the other/bottom edge; you're ready to go. Wear a tube top or slim
t-shirt and wear the fabric as a sarong. If it was good enough for Dorothy Lamour and my Barbie doll, 2 top trend
setters, isn't that good enough? <VBG> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Lamour Wear a piece of that
fabric as a scarf over the t-shirt, so tropical. And don't forget a piece of it on your head, Island Girl.
Ragmop/Sandy On 10/27/06 5:38 PM, in article 1161988736.472440.294470@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
"quilter" <l_marsella@yahoo.com> wrote: [quote:9b012b9315]Well, it is one day until I need to wear a
halloween costume, and despite my best attempts at sending positive thoughts toward the fabric pile, my lovely tropical
fabric from tahiti has NOT turned itself into a halloween costume. I'd like to take some fabric and make it into a
simple tropical dress, probably strapless...basically, one step up from just wrapping it around my body and tying it
(which I may have to do). I'll at least hem the edges. At this point, all I can think to do besides that is maybe add
some velcro. I certainly am not up to a zipper or other closure. It'd be nice to give it some shape, like a bit of
ruching (sp?) on the side or at the front or some darts, but is this waaay too hard? free tahiti fabric scrap to
whoever can help! I've never even hemmed a pair of pants on my machine. The fabric I have is a fairly thick 100%
cotton fabric (bought for quilting really), white, with a lovely column of orange tropical flowers up the side. Plan B
is to take a smaller piece (bright blue with white tropical flowers) and make a wrap skirt, but I don't really have
anything suitable for the top of the outfit (it's too cold to wear a bikini top) so a one-piece seemed easier. I think
I may actually have a pattern for a wrap skirt somewhere around here, but I've never opened it. This will all be
accessorized by shell necklaces and plastic leis and flowers in the hair and a husband in a grass skirt and coconut bra
(he hasn't quite agreed to that part yet). Why didn't I buy a pattern before now? Lynn, very impressed with anyone who
can sew clothes [/quote:9b012b9315]


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Posted by Kathy Applebaum on Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:34 AM    Post subject: Re: Halloween help on garment sewing

The search engine is your friend. You can whip up something without any sewing other than hemming -- it's all in how
you tie it. http://www.kangausa.com/howtotie.htm http://www.cottonwoodhotel.com/sarong.html
http://www.sarong.com/tieoneon.html http://www.tropicalhulahut.com/sarongcare.html http://www.idcw.org.uk/sarongs.html
http://www.sarongsontheweb.com/howto.html Well, you get the idea. Have a blast! -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of
Fabric Tramps mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious
to reply "quilter" <l_marsella@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1161988736.472440.294470@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quote:86aff7985a]Well, it is one day until I need to wear
a halloween costume, and despite my best attempts at sending positive thoughts toward the fabric pile, my lovely
tropical fabric from tahiti has NOT turned itself into a halloween costume. I'd like to take some fabric and make it
into a simple tropical dress, probably strapless...basically, one step up from just wrapping it around my body and tying
it (which I may have to do). I'll at least hem the edges. At this point, all I can think to do besides that is maybe
add some velcro. I certainly am not up to a zipper or other closure. It'd be nice to give it some shape, like a bit of
ruching (sp?) on the side or at the front or some darts, but is this waaay too hard? free tahiti fabric scrap to
whoever can help! I've never even hemmed a pair of pants on my machine. The fabric I have is a fairly thick 100%
cotton fabric (bought for quilting really), white, with a lovely column of orange tropical flowers up the side. Plan B
is to take a smaller piece (bright blue with white tropical flowers) and make a wrap skirt, but I don't really have
anything suitable for the top of the outfit (it's too cold to wear a bikini top) so a one-piece seemed easier. I think
I may actually have a pattern for a wrap skirt somewhere around here, but I've never opened it. This will all be
accessorized by shell necklaces and plastic leis and flowers in the hair and a husband in a grass skirt and coconut bra
(he hasn't quite agreed to that part yet). Why didn't I buy a pattern before now? Lynn, very impressed with anyone who
can sew clothes [/quote:86aff7985a]


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Posted by quilter on Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:38 PM    Post subject: Halloween help on garment sewing

Well, it is one day until I need to wear a halloween costume, and despite my best attempts at sending positive thoughts
toward the fabric pile, my lovely tropical fabric from tahiti has NOT turned itself into a halloween costume. I'd like
to take some fabric and make it into a simple tropical dress, probably strapless...basically, one step up from just
wrapping it around my body and tying it (which I may have to do). I'll at least hem the edges. At this point, all I can
think to do besides that is maybe add some velcro. I certainly am not up to a zipper or other closure. It'd be nice to
give it some shape, like a bit of ruching (sp?) on the side or at the front or some darts, but is this waaay too hard?
free tahiti fabric scrap to whoever can help! I've never even hemmed a pair of pants on my machine. The fabric I have
is a fairly thick 100% cotton fabric (bought for quilting really), white, with a lovely column of orange tropical
flowers up the side. Plan B is to take a smaller piece (bright blue with white tropical flowers) and make a wrap skirt,
but I don't really have anything suitable for the top of the outfit (it's too cold to wear a bikini top) so a one-piece
seemed easier. I think I may actually have a pattern for a wrap skirt somewhere around here, but I've never opened it.
This will all be accessorized by shell necklaces and plastic leis and flowers in the hair and a husband in a grass skirt
and coconut bra (he hasn't quite agreed to that part yet). Why didn't I buy a pattern before now? Lynn, very impressed
with anyone who can sew clothes


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Posted by Donna in Idaho on Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:54 PM    Post subject: Re: Cheating the binding

Polly, we've gotten some really nice fleece blankets bound with satin binding. One of my favorites was one bound with
"rainbow" binding - it was really pretty! One of the ways we've started dressing up plain color fleece
blankets is to applique something on them. Sometimes we just applique geometric shapes from patterned or contrasting
fleece scraps. Someone just gave us some panels with VW cars with flowers, love, etc., on them. They're really cute
& are going to really dress up a plain fleece blanket. -- Donna in Idaho Reply to daawra3553 at yahoo dot com
"polly esther" <misterclean@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:B4aQg.3822$UG4.722@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quote:583f8eea67]Well, now nice to see you here, Donna. I
happened upon some red fleece and satin binding and was planning to make some Hoho blankets for little ones. I'll do my
best to make sure there are no empty weak spots. Polly "Donna in Idaho" > We used to have a quilter that
donated quilts to our Project Linus chapter that she bound with purchased satin binding. She sewed it to the edges of
the quilt so that the wide, wide binding had nothing in it at all. I'm sure those bindings wore out pretty quickly
besides being really flimsy. [/quote:583f8eea67]


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