View entire thread: 1st side distorts (flattens) when 2nd side is soldered
Posted by Adrian Brentnall on Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:38 PM Post subject: Re: 1st side distorts (flattens) when 2nd side is soldered
Hi On 30 Apr 2006 08:23:15 -0700, eganders@yahoo.com wrote: [quote:700baad055]Here are some photos of the area I am
concerned with: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Completelyfoiledreadyforsolder002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Completelyfoiledreadyforsolder003.jpg This shows the entire layup:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Completelyfoiledreadyforsolder005.jpg [/quote:700baad055] Some of the
gaps are a bit on the large side - but not impossibly so. Not being rude - but is this one of your first projects? (it's
quite ambitious - you're very brave ! - and it's looking pretty good <g>). If you've not had that much practise
at the soldering - why not find some 'scrap' glass (cheap, clear window glass will do fine) and have a bit of a 'play'
on that first ? you'll be that much more confident and expert when you're doing it for real. Try cutting a sheet of
window glass into four or six pieces - foil them & then solder them back together again...? Be aware that it's
possible to crack the glass by leaving the iron in position too long - maybe try doing this deliberately on the cheap
glass - so's you know how to avoid it on the expensive clock-face! Also - wipe the crud off your iron on a dampened
sponge, rag or, 'brillo' pad or newspaper every time you pick it up - helps to remove the oxide that builds up as you
solder. For what it's worth - here's how I'd go about soldering up your clock project... speaking only as an
enthusiastic amateur <g> Set the parts up on your wooden board, as per your last photo. Put little 'dabs' of flux
on the copper at key points (you're going to tack the panel before doing the 'proper' soldering) Tack the panel with
small 'blobs' of solder. Make sure that everything is where you want it to be (adjust if necessary) Flux all the copper
tape - with the possible exception of the outside edges - then wipe a thin layer of solder down every seam - don't worry
too much about forming a neat bead at this stage. Using another wooden board - flip the panel over so you are now
working on the back - careful - it's not very strong yet ! Flux the back of the panel - and solder it, taking care to
get a neat, rounded bead (this is why you were 'playing' with the clear glass earlier. Once you're happy with the rear
of the panel, use the wooden board again to flip it back the right way up - and solder every seam - making truly
excellent rounded beads <g> As you solder these front beads you'll find that, if you time it right, you can get a
nice bead on the front without the solder on the back getting hot enough to melt - because there's a fair old thermal
mass of solder there now. There's a knack to getting the iron moving slow enough to get a good melt, but not so slow
that the heat penetrates to the back... Sorry if I'm teaching you how to suck eggs..... ... but hope this helps. By
the way - some books say that, if you have really large gaps, you can use masking tape to stop the solder from falling
though - but I guess if the gaps are that large then the 'right' way is to re-cut the glass... You could also 'caulk'
the gap with a small piece of rolled-up foil - but if you can get the soldering right then there's really no need to...
Now stand back and congratulate yourself! Good luck Adrian Suffolk UK ======return email munged================= take
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View entire thread: $2 Back Issue Sale at Somerset Studio!
Posted by Vibrant Jewels on Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:13 AM Post subject: Re: microscope slides where to buy etc. - was: Re: $2 Back I
Thanks Susan! I was reading the current issue of Cloth, Paper, Scissors, and there was instructions for making a book
using Mica sheets, copper tape, and solder. I got the idea until the soldering part, I wasn't sure if you were
soldering the tape to the Mica, the tape to the book, or what! I guess you can tell I've never tried it before, so some
basic instruction - REALLY basic - would be helpful. Thanks, karleen -- Karleen Page Member International Jewelry
Designers Guild (IJDG) Vibrant Jewels: http://www.vibrantjewels.com/jewelry/welcome.htm JustBeads:
http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=21770 Join our Yahoo Group: vibrantjewels-subscribe@yahoogroups.com "Susan
in VA" <suzy@bidonbeads.every1.net> wrote in message
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<vibrantjewels@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:HsGQg.10670$v%4.8786@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net Ok so
can you point me to some instructions? What kind of glass, where do you get it, etc. For microscope slides (which you
can cut to smaller sizes - they come in 1 x 3 inch size): http://www.outsidethemargins.com/essentials2.html [That's
a direct link to her microscope slides.] She also sells the copper foil tape, but you can get it cheaper elsewhere -- I
get mine at www.delphiglass.com However, if you want to "cheat", there are framed glass thingies that you
can buy that are "ready" for your collage. They're called "Memory Frames", and you can buy them at
several places - - here's one: http://www.schmoozewithsuze.com/product/product.php?pID=060526213643 [If that URL is too
long, go to http://www.schmoozewithsuze.com and look on the left side of the home page for NEW PRODUCTS>Memory
Frames. I find the shipping/handling at that site too high, so I look elsewhere for these frames. One place is
FranticStamper.com, but their search page sucks, so I can never find what I'm looking for. <g> I end up emailing
them for the direct link. But it's still cheaper for S/H!] Instructions for doing the soldering type are on the
Internet in various places, too (I'm looking for some as I speak <g>)... Yikes, not finding any! Well, if I do
find some, I'll let you know. But, Karleen, if you want me to walk you thru the soldering steps, let me know! --
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View entire thread: Memory Glass
Posted by gin's creations on Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:54 AM Post subject: Re: Memory Glass
I have been experimenting with my slides all week...They are awesome for inclosing pics and sealing with stickers,
utee(ultra thick embossing powers) and copper tape. I have been using polymer clay and waterslide transfers. The
results are amazing! Will be posting pics to my gallery soon... Gin http://www.gins-creations.com "Jessica"
<Jcicely@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1149179745.806840.326260@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:c7e4474588]Lenora - Thanks for the info! I can see the possibilites now...hmmmm. :) Jessica Lenora wrote:
they are llike microscope slides but in different sizes, 1x3" or 2x2" and are burnished not to have sharp
edges. You make a small collage out of paper/pictures/stickers (not too thick maybe 3-4 layers), sandwich it between
two slides and then seal the edges with foil tape, solder or by dipping in utee. They can be used as ornaments, jewelry,
embelishments. http://www.volcanoarts.biz/muse/photoframes/photocharms.jpg these are pretty exotic . they have a
project video on http://www.paperwishes.com in the weekly webisodes where they make christmas ornaments which is what
caught my eye, I thought they would make a cool removable embelishment for christmas cards. They also have a jewelry
making one but that's not so much for me. [/quote:c7e4474588]
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