View entire thread: OT: Jewelry Cleaner
Posted by Kate G. on Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:02 PM Post subject: Re: Jewelry Cleaner
I've heard that toothpaste and a soft bristle brush works well. I use it on my wedding ring (diamond) -- have never
used it on other gemstones except for a small opal ring. I would think that white vinegar would work well on diamonds
also. With softer gems, or soft gold -- you want to be careful so you don't etch them. Kate in MI
http://community.webshots.com/user/K_Groves -- "Charlotte Hippen" <chippen@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:ehiu28$hb4$1@news.netins.net... [quote:8e42d68693]I know this is way off topic, but this is such a
knowledgeable group I figured I'd ask anyways. Is there anyone here that knows a recipe for jewelry cleaner?? I'm off
to search the net too, but figured there maybe someone here that could give me one that they have had success with.
TIA!!! -- Charlotte http://community.webshots.com/user/charh108 [/quote:8e42d68693]
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View entire thread: OT: Jewelry Cleaner
Posted by Mary on Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:14 PM Post subject: Re: OT: Jewelry Cleaner
You can use ammonia on diamonds and platinum. Soft gems, coral, opal, pearls, amber, etc. should be taken to a jeweler
to clean -- they are very easy to ruin at home! As to using a brush, I only use a completely non-scratchy one such as a
lipstick brush dipped in soapy water to clean the backs of stones and ornate settings. For things such as topaz,
garnet, citrine, etc., and for gold chains I simply soak them in a small glass with water and a good squirt of shampoo.
I have seen lots of jewelry damaged or ruined with well-intentioned home-cleaning, and suggest that you go to a good
jewelry store for advice, purchase their jewelry cleaner, and follow the directions very carefully! A bargain home brew
cleaner is no bargain if it damages your jewelry! Charlotte Hippen wrote: [quote:241aa672c3]I know this is way off
topic, but this is such a knowledgeable group I figured I'd ask anyways. Is there anyone here that knows a recipe for
jewelry cleaner?? I'm off to search the net too, but figured there maybe someone here that could give me one that they
have had success with. TIA!!! -- Charlotte http://community.webshots.com/user/charh108[/quote:241aa672c3]
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View entire thread: Christmas Batiks
Posted by Patti S on Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:49 PM Post subject: Re: Christmas Batiks
Lucky you Jessamy! How fun to see stuff that far in advance.... I know one of my friends who's in the jewelry business
is already going to market for next spring! Sheesh!! Patti in Seattle jessamy_thompson@_ilove thecolour_orange.nl
(Jessamy) wrote: yeah they are aren't they :-D I saw them back in march - the pro's of designing for the distributor
hehehehe -- Jessamy In The Netherlands
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View entire thread: Venting
Posted by ellice on Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:07 PM Post subject: Re: Venting
On 10/27/06 6:18 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: [quote:cd6df2a474]On 10/27/06
12:40 AM, in article C167060C.61265%cherylisaak@adelphia.net, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net>
wrote: Well, it's half DH's vent too. Due to weather and other things, his flights home were delayed. I was supposed
to pick him up at 10 PM. (yesterday) I set the alarm on my PDA to wake me up so I could be there for his 1 AM arrival -
it's now 1:37 AM arrival. He can sleep tomorrow - I still have to get up at the "usual" hour of 5:45 AM to
get DS off to school. And I have errands I must do tomorrow (make that today) and to get DS at the HS to get him to
hockey..... Cheryl And replying to myself! I finally got back to sleep around 3, and am back up. DS has decided that
he's going to punt on hockey today. I am grateful. [/quote:cd6df2a474] LOL - I'm resisting saying anything about talking
to ones' self (as it seems to run rampant here - or at least I talk to Puckster). The crazy DSIL - we catch her all the
time having conversations with herself (behind a closed door, of course). Glad that your wise goalie son had decided to
punt (it's ok in the pre-season to do that occasionally) [quote:cd6df2a474] DH did bring me back some lovely earrings.
[/quote:cd6df2a474] Ah, jewelry - the salve for almost everything..... Good man. e
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View entire thread: Venting
Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:10 PM Post subject: Re: Venting
On 10/27/06 9:07 AM, in article C1677CBE.1FE0%egirl22@verizon.net, "ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net> wrote:
[quote:9c1550716d]On 10/27/06 6:18 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: On 10/27/06
12:40 AM, in article C167060C.61265%cherylisaak@adelphia.net, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net>
wrote: Well, it's half DH's vent too. Due to weather and other things, his flights home were delayed. I was supposed
to pick him up at 10 PM. (yesterday) I set the alarm on my PDA to wake me up so I could be there for his 1 AM arrival -
it's now 1:37 AM arrival. He can sleep tomorrow - I still have to get up at the "usual" hour of 5:45 AM to
get DS off to school. And I have errands I must do tomorrow (make that today) and to get DS at the HS to get him to
hockey..... Cheryl And replying to myself! I finally got back to sleep around 3, and am back up. DS has decided that
he's going to punt on hockey today. I am grateful. LOL - I'm resisting saying anything about talking to ones' self (as
it seems to run rampant here - or at least I talk to Puckster). The crazy DSIL - we catch her all the time having
conversations with herself (behind a closed door, of course). [/quote:9c1550716d] Hey I only had 3 more hours sleep!
Besides, sometimes, I am the ONLY ONE WHO LISTENS (excepting you guys). [quote:9c1550716d]Glad that your wise goalie
son had decided to punt (it's ok in the pre-season to do that occasionally) And he got his new gloves today from Dad.
They've been in the basement for a[/quote:9c1550716d] week. TPS Summit full right catcher and blocker.
[quote:9c1550716d] DH did bring me back some lovely earrings. Ah, jewelry - the salve for almost everything..... Good
man. [/quote:9c1550716d] Nearly - these are quite elegant; inlaid stones - mostly blues with a little green and red.
(Not getting technical - no clue what they might be for sure) Cheryl
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View entire thread: Venting
Posted by Lucille on Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:09 PM Post subject: Re: Venting
"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:C167D1F5.612CD%cherylisaak@adelphia.net... [quote:f568bb4861]On 10/27/06 9:07 AM, in article
C1677CBE.1FE0%egirl22@verizon.net, "ellice" egirl22@verizon.net> wrote: On 10/27/06 6:18 AM, "Cheryl
Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: On 10/27/06 12:40 AM, in article
C167060C.61265%cherylisaak@adelphia.net, "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak@adelphia.net> wrote: Well, it's
half DH's vent too. Due to weather and other things, his flights home were delayed. I was supposed to pick him up at 10
PM. (yesterday) I set the alarm on my PDA to wake me up so I could be there for his 1 AM arrival - it's now 1:37 AM
arrival. He can sleep tomorrow - I still have to get up at the "usual" hour of 5:45 AM to get DS off to
school. And I have errands I must do tomorrow (make that today) and to get DS at the HS to get him to hockey.....
Cheryl And replying to myself! I finally got back to sleep around 3, and am back up. DS has decided that he's going to
punt on hockey today. I am grateful. LOL - I'm resisting saying anything about talking to ones' self (as it seems to
run rampant here - or at least I talk to Puckster). The crazy DSIL - we catch her all the time having conversations
with herself (behind a closed door, of course). Hey I only had 3 more hours sleep! Besides, sometimes, I am the ONLY
ONE WHO LISTENS (excepting you guys). Glad that your wise goalie son had decided to punt (it's ok in the pre-season to
do that occasionally) And he got his new gloves today from Dad. They've been in the basement for a week. TPS Summit full
right catcher and blocker. DH did bring me back some lovely earrings. Ah, jewelry - the salve for almost
everything..... Good man. Nearly - these are quite elegant; inlaid stones - mostly blues with a little green and red.
(Not getting technical - no clue what they might be for sure) Cheryl [/quote:f568bb4861] Because it's for those who
deserve the very best, let's just assume they're sapphires, emeralds and rubies. Does that sound good to you ???
Lucille >
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View entire thread: OT: fundraiser time again
Posted by Azzy on Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:29 AM Post subject: OT: fundraiser time again
Last year I posted that my daughter was selling things from fiesta fundraising for her school. Their catalog is
online, and some of you found things you liked and bought from her :-) Well it is that time of year again Take a
look, they even have jewelry this time! If you like something and want to buy...awesome, thank you! If not, thank you
for looking. You guys are great :-) www.fiestafundraising.com/store her seller ID is OC8161 Azzy -- Posted via
a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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View entire thread: OT: fundraiser time again
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:03 AM Post subject: Re: fundraiser time again
Ok, ordered again... There's some cute stuff! :-) Theresa (aka Mommyrazz) "Azzy"
<AzzybooFLOWERS@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:450b2a3b$0$19620$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
[quote:9c048451b3]Last year I posted that my daughter was selling things from fiesta fundraising for her school. Their
catalog is online, and some of you found things you liked and bought from her :-) Well it is that time of year again
Take a look, they even have jewelry this time! If you like something and want to buy...awesome, thank you! If not,
thank you for looking. You guys are great :-) www.fiestafundraising.com/store her seller ID is OC8161 Azzy --
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com [/quote:9c048451b3]
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View entire thread: Puzzle pieces for embellishments
Posted by Helen on Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:30 PM Post subject: Re: Puzzle pieces for embellishments
Lynne, This is a great idea. Something that I am definately going to use. I'm still trying to finish my daughters 18
year album....so this is a technique that will come in handy. Thank you for sharing. One could also drill a small hole
in each end and join two pieces together with a jewelry jump ring. This way you wouldn't have to put the puzzle
together. Helen King's Crown wrote: [quote:5a3b598ff7]Had this great idea of using puzzle pieces for embellishments.
An album I have has a string hooked together with a letter stamped on each piece spelling out a word. I have an old
puzzle and thought I'll just paint the pieces (with my scrapping paint... Hi Judy) and stamp them rather than buying
such an embellishment. After getting the puzzle out of the box it suddenly occurred to me I'm going to have to find
pieces that fit together! hahaha so started do the puzzle today. I'm going to get a few figured out, painted and lay
them in the box for stamping as needed in the future! Man, I sure know how to make work for myself.
Lynne[/quote:5a3b598ff7]
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View entire thread: Puzzle pieces for embellishments
Posted by King's Crown on Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:55 PM Post subject: Re: Puzzle pieces for embellishments
[quote:7e610eeded]One could also drill a small hole in each end and join two pieces together with a jewelry jump ring.
This way you wouldn't have to put the puzzle together. [/quote:7e610eeded] I like it! Lynne PS I'll post pictures
when I get it done.
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View entire thread: Puzzle pieces for embellishments
Posted by anji on Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:14 PM Post subject: Re: Puzzle pieces for embellishments
k and company makes those little lunch tins with puzzle pieces. i have one and use it quite often. all the pieces fit
together. some have words, some don't. they are distressed and everything. what a great idea to go to the dollar
store. sure wished i'd thought about that first. :) King's Crown wrote: [quote:67f31af301]One could also drill a small
hole in each end and join two pieces together with a jewelry jump ring. This way you wouldn't have to put the puzzle
together. I like it! Lynne PS I'll post pictures when I get it done.[/quote:67f31af301]
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View entire thread: Webshots updated
Posted by a-scrapbooking-diva on Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:58 AM Post subject: Webshots updated
I went to Elizabeth's this weekend but it was too hot (she doesn't have AC in the main living quarters.) So we cam home
early and I photographed the new work: Here's the layouts:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2225783050032555428PRcxpb
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2425120120032555428YHBomg
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2753831100032555428gLjlNb
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2807790500032555428KPAbmi
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2436015470032555428vrelvF
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2809599360032555428RhUsTM The newest photos under Sarah's album start
towards the bottom of the page: http://community.webshots.com/album/547389397KoaNOI/2 Here's the jewelry:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551199130/2944713700032555428inStYx
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551199130/2878499640032555428UAsGHk
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View entire thread: Webshots updated
Posted by Cathy on Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:58 AM Post subject: Re: Webshots updated
Love your pages. Sarah is getting so big. Thanks for sharing. -- Cathy So. California http://photos.yahoo.com/rusks
2006 Pages: 37 Cards: 57 ACTs: 22 "a-scrapbooking-diva" <happy2scrapbook@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1154303889.604905.302100@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quote:6ef06e6dbb]I went to Elizabeth's this weekend but
it was too hot (she doesn't have AC in the main living quarters.) So we cam home early and I photographed the new work:
Here's the layouts: http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2225783050032555428PRcxpb
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2425120120032555428YHBomg
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2753831100032555428gLjlNb
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2807790500032555428KPAbmi
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2436015470032555428vrelvF
http://community.webshots.com/photo/540440847/2809599360032555428RhUsTM The newest photos under Sarah's album start
towards the bottom of the page: http://community.webshots.com/album/547389397KoaNOI/2 Here's the jewelry:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551199130/2944713700032555428inStYx
http://community.webshots.com/photo/551199130/2878499640032555428UAsGHk [/quote:6ef06e6dbb]
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View entire thread: $1 MILLION REWARD for a simple paper in PHYSICS -- CONTROLLE
Posted by jmcgill on Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:11 PM Post subject: Re: $1 MILLION REWARD for a simple paper in PHYSICS -- CONTR
thermate@india.com wrote: [quote:6b73da6bc3]23) [added 27 August, 2006] Explain the radioactive dust samples that
indicate a micronuclear weapon was used [/quote:6b73da6bc3] How many americium-activated smoke detectors were in the
towers? Do you suppose any of the victims wore artificial diamond jewelry, or with zircons, beryl, or tourmaline? How
many fluorescent light starters were in the office buildings? Were any Magnesium-alloy welding rods containing Thorium
used in the building construction? Did the towers house any sort of laboratory or medical facilities at all?
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View entire thread: This is what happens....
Posted by Al A. on Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:15 PM Post subject: Re: This is what happens....
Al A. wrote: [quote:8dd93ffc99]...when your 5 year-old decides to help dad out by cleaning up the socket drawer in his
tool box... http://tinyurl.com/hy8bz Kids are great fun... [/quote:8dd93ffc99] Glad you all saw the same humor in
this, I figured this gang would appreciate it. Bob, I noticed the same thing, that the assumption was that it was my
son. In this case that is true, it was my youngest son. Curiously, the one of my kids that seems to spend the most time
out in the shop just hanging around with me is my 4th kid, a 13 year old girl. She helps out with small projects,
makes silver jewelry, sweeps up for me. That is a bit odd, as of our 2 daughters, she was by far the most
"girly" of the two, the older one being more of a tomboy when she was younger. It is great just to have
someone out there with you. Lots of good "father-kid" time. All of my kids (we have 6) spend time out
there, to varying degrees. My wife and I both try to encourage that. My wife is an electrical engineer by training, she
appreciates tools and the value of working with ones hands. My oldest daughter loved being out in the shop when she was
younger, got less interested as she got older. She does still do her own oil changes and minor car stuff, recently
became a nurse. One of my older sons is really interested in guns and shooting, we have made some stuff for that, custom
flash hiders, sling rings and such. We will be starting on sprucing up an old enfield that a friend gave us soon.
Makes you wish there were more hours in some days. Thanks for the responses! -AL A.
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View entire thread: brazing dam
Posted by Jeff Wisnia on Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:24 PM Post subject: Re: brazing dam
Simon wrote: [quote:21642a296b]I'm filling up the bottom of a cast iron exhaust port with braze, I want to build a damn
at the end of the port to stop the brass from falling out (something similar as you can do copper when mig welding mild
steel). Any ideas? thanks Simon [/quote:21642a296b] I'd expect that the plaster like "investment"
material used for lost wax casting should work. Check with a jewelry supply place. You could mold it into place, wait
for it to dry and then bake any remaining moisture out of it with a little heat before starting the brazing job. Back
when I was a kid hanging around my dad's jewelry shop we cast white hot molten platinum into molds made of that stuff
and it sure took the heat. The first few thou of the investment material next to the platinum glassified, but we got
that off by soaking the castings in open wax pots of hydroflouric acid. OSHA would have had a field day checking out
dad's shop if they were around back then. <G> If it was soft solder, you could use a "tinkers dam".
Tinker was the olde name for a tinsmith. Their dams was just bits of clay used to keep solder from spreading where it
wasn't needed. They salvaged scrap tin since it was quite valuable then, but they threw away the clay dams when they'd
done their job because of the negligible value of a tiny bit of dried clay. Hence the expression "Not worth a
tinker's dam." Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of
strength."
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View entire thread: Wood Drawer from HF
Posted by RoyJ on Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:01 AM Post subject: Re: Wood Drawer from HF
I don't know about you but if she has enough jewelry to fill that box, you had better NOT give her the el cheapo HF box
to put the stuff in. RAM³ wrote: [quote:074ca00a0e]"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:Fn0Jg.11700$Qf.9412@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... Ash veneer, probably particle board underneath. I see
these in the returns pile, typically have a broken out corner somewhere. Would be ok for very light use, more decorative
than functional. Take off the side handles and give it to the spouse at Christmas as a Jewelry Box. <grin
[/quote:074ca00a0e]
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View entire thread: anyone know of any good csting dvds ? or metalwork ?
Posted by swaps on Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:06 PM Post subject: anyone know of any good csting dvds ? or metalwork ?
Hi all, Im looking for casting, investment casting jewelry casting or metal working dvd's anyone know of any
good one or have them for sale ? Thanks Alan
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View entire thread: anyone have a Jet GHB-1340A?
Posted by Clark Magnuson on Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:13 AM Post subject: Re: anyone have a Jet GHB-1340A?
My brother has one and everything he makes looks like jewelry. I have an American lathe and everything I make looks like
a Homer Simpson spice rack project. -- For choosing to fight, one gets the horrors or war, stress, and possibly
death. For choosing not to fight, one gets subjugation, humiliation, and possibly death. Choose your fights carefully.
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View entire thread: www.charmiesonline.com <-- check out my new site
Posted by charmiesonline on Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:23 PM Post subject: www.charmiesonline.com <-- check out my new site
Hi everyone! I am from New Orleans. Yes, I am living in New Orleans <wink> It is a bit rough because there arent
a lot of places open. Anyway, Katrina is the reason that I started my site. So I can at least say, one good thing came
out from the hurricane. Anyway, please check out my website and let me know what you think. www.charmiesonline.com I
have handmade beaded jewelry and handpoured triple-scented candles. Thanks for checking it out!
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View entire thread: investment casting question
Posted by BW on Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:10 PM Post subject: Re: investment casting question
Funny looking thing.. You need to cast the top piece to attach to a handle? If it's fairly small you could cast it like
jewelry. If you have a metal one already, you could make a rubber mold and shoot as many waxes as you want. If you
have one in some material like hard plastic you could use that like a wax model. If you want to carve one it doesn't
look too awful tricky if you can find a wax blank the right size to start with, kind of hard to tell the dimensions by
the pic. If you're the experimental type there's a book by Tim McCreight called "Practical Casting" it has
some home made casting ideas, from sling casting, potato casting, sand casting, I think he even has a section in there
about using a shop vac for a low budget low-tech vacuum casting. Once you get started, you might get hooked, just be
careful! "robr" <rrothberg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ats2k2pkmca722op27fm2n7lemb1j9oatv@4ax.com... [quote:cf435f33be]I need to make a "key" to fit an odd
security type "lock". It's not a real lock in the sense there are no tumblers, but it was suggested to me
that investment casting would be necessary. I've been reading up on that but could really use pointers to resources
that would teach me how to do this at home, or create at least a wax model that I could send off someplace and have the
"key" made cheaply. Perhaps I might as well look for the holy grail though, I dunno, you guys tell me :).
Essentially I need to make this tool: http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/3b/11/ae_1.JPG It doesn't need to be super strong,
just strong enough to take about the same amount of pressure as one would apply when turning a key. Any suggestions
would be appreciated. Thanks! [/quote:cf435f33be]
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View entire thread: Water damaged watch
Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:50 AM Post subject: Re: Water damaged watch
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:21:08 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry ted frater <ted.frater@virgin.net> wrote:
[quote:3164ed72ab]Wether you get this reply is a matter of chance but im writing it anyway, as a little background about
the main contributors to this group might just be of help to you and others who might pose a question.,
[/quote:3164ed72ab] Chance? you mean whether or not I was sufficiently of the opinion that this violates the group
charter? It doesn't. I don't happen to agree with you, but you're not attacking anyone, at least not much... So
here's your post, appearing as it should. But you'll note I've got a few comments, in my usual overly wordy style...
:-) [quote:3164ed72ab]there are a number of serious professional jewellers, metal workers and craftsmen who are regular
contributors to this group who give of their valuable time and knowhow free of charge for the benefit of all those who
might pose a question. however its often the case that questioners come to this group and think there entitled to a
professional and informative reply to their question without any thought to the courtesy this such a request might
need. would you for example, expect professional advice for free from your lawer? he would make his terms of business
quite clear and get your consent to them before giving you a minute of his time. [/quote:3164ed72ab] I have to take
serious issue with you over this point, Ted. It's just not the proper comparison or a valid description of the group.
If I go to a doctor's office for an opinion, I'll expect professional help, and a bill to match. If I meet that doctor
at a party, and if he's already my doctor getting paid by me, I might mention medicine in passing, but the party is not
really the right place, so even then, mostly I'd refrain. And if he wasn't my doc, the most I'd ask is how to set up an
appointment. So far, all well and good, and in agreement with your post. But the thing is, this newsgroup is NOT a
social engagement where people go to hang out and not be professionals (or interested hobbyists, etc.) This group was
chartered expressly for the purpose of discussing jewelry and jewelry related matters. If you show up here at all,
you've implied by your presence a willingness to participate according to the group's traditions and rules. And that
tradition, along with all of usenet, is a bit one of anarchy. Nobody is, or should be, somehow better than others or
more deserving of accolades or respect. Everyone deserves respect, not just the experts or old timers. Your posting
implies that people coming here with questions should treat us all as though we're up on pedestals, to be honored and
approached only with deference and awe. And that's B.S. Courtesy, yes. But the very purpose of this group is to
provide a place where people can discuss the topic of the group. Nobody should have to jump through hoops. It may be
true that people are more likely to answer a posting if they take a poster seriously, and it may be true that using a
real identity may increase one's appearance that way, but the question involved was not spam, was on topic, and appeared
honest enough. Readers then have the choice to answer or not. Simple choice. No obligation to answer, but nice if you
can, and do. Some answers may contain information that the writer may feel inappropriate for the whole group, or they
may not wish to post their answer for other reasons. Who knows. that too, is the choice of each poster, and something
the OP should be aware of. I have no problem with agreeing with you that everyone should treat the group, and it's
users (at all levels of experience) with respect. That's simple common courtesy and good manners, something which our
world all too often lacks. But to imply that someone's expertise is somehow something akin to doing business with it's
rules and conventions just doesn't hold. The last thing this group needs is an atmosphere where people coming to this
group with a question feel they need to crawl up the dais in awe, head bowed, and ask their question just in reverential
whispers in the hope one of the group gods will deign to answer.... (great image, isn't that? Proud of that one, I
am...) [quote:3164ed72ab]So in the case of Abrasha, who is one of our most experienced jewellers and is happy to
help, but he doesnt suffer ill mannered or devious questioners. [/quote:3164ed72ab] True. But nothing in the posers
question was ill mannered or devious in any way. A fake email address is common enough on the net, and even recommended
practice by some authorities, where preserving one's privacy may be an issue. The only thing the fake email address
(which was obviously such, no pretend real address) is force any answers to appear in the public newsgroup. Nothing
wrong with that. If all answers were in email only, and nothing in the group, this place would be even more boring than
it sometimes can be (ie when there are no posts for a while). [quote:3164ed72ab]its not unreasonable for the questioner
to be open and honest if they want something for free in reply. [/quote:3164ed72ab] It's not unreasonable for the poster
to hide personal information (email address) if they wish. Their choice, just as it's Abrasha's free choice not to
answer in the open group if for some reason he chooses not to. His post to that effect does little more than perhaps
alert the OP that he might wish to send Abrasha his real email address, if he wished. Nothing more need be implied.
And to suggest that for the OP to have used a fake email address is not open and honest, well, I'm afraid I just don't
agree. I DO believe it may be a mistake or not needed, and my prior post in the thread suggested a number of ways to
address the issue without a fully fake email.. But there's nothing dishonest or deceiving about it.
[quote:3164ed72ab]hope you see this point. One could comment that anyone that lets a child/neice put a watch into a
washing machine deserves what happens to it. [/quote:3164ed72ab] Oh, now you're looking down your nose at the guy
because a child behaved as a child can do? C'mon Ted. You've got kids, don't you? Have you ever known a child who
could be watched every second of every day? Have you ever met a parent who's child hasn't, at some point, pulled some
amazingly unfortunate stunt? It happens. To say the fellow deserved it is just as silly as saying every victim of a
traffic accident had it coming due to their own behavior. Sometimes, sure, but enough so as to warrant that comment? I
don't think so. My 2 cents worth, at least. Peter
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Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:02 AM Post subject: Re: "Tidbits"
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:27:50 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Mr G H Ireland <bc54@orpheus.co.uk> wrote:
[quote:a804af4f00]What a pity that Benjamin Mark has left us! It would appear that many of your other contributors have
gone elswhere, now that he has taken offence at somebody's criticism. I think that everybody has lost out. What do you
think, Peter? [/quote:a804af4f00] I'd tend to agree. Mr. Mark's choice to take offence at what seemed to me a
relatively minor technical criticism seemed puzzling to me, and disproportionate, but then it wasn't aimed at me. I
thought the underlying concept to the criticism valid enough, but the wording unkind, which is unfortunate, and Mr. Mark
chose to make an issue of it. That's his choice, and as I noted at the time, the group is the poorer for it. But it's
not something I had control over then, nor do now. I don't own the group, nor make the rules. I just try to administer
the rules as written in the charter to the best of my ability, which may indeed be flawed now and then. Once I allow a
post, rightly or wrongly, though, it's pretty much a done deal, and can't be undone. So if someone wishes to make an
issue of a post, that's their choice, not mine, and aside from trying to modify future awareness of issues that might
come up, not much I can do about it. I regret that the problem came up at all, but don't feel deep guilt for allowing
the original critical post, since at the time it simply didn't seem as objectionable as Mr. Mark apparently felt it was.
Perhaps at some point in the future, Mr. Mark may choose to come back. I hope so. And if, perhaps, he chooses to make
the slight change in the coding of his web site's home page that was the real point of the criticism, then those people
going there with a slower connection, will be the happier for it. His choice, on both counts. As to the other
contributors, they come and go with the seasons, with how busy the industry and people's lives are, and all the rest.
Mr. Mark was a very long time contributor. Much of the rest of the group's traffic has been less regular, and will
likely come back as people see fit, and as newcomers find the group and post questions that inspire responses. Many of
the regular readers have not abandoned the group, I think. They're just not so often the ones to start a thread. So
when someone comes along with something interesting to discuss, the group will likely spring to more active life again.
Don't be too quick to write the group's obituary. And as your post seems to illustrate, when the group goes empty long
enough, someone usually finds something to say to try and break the silence... With that said, it's also fair to point
out that the Internet is evolving, with the web becoming a richer and richer environment, and usenet being somewhat less
important with each passing year. It maintains a unique place on the net, but many users simply haven't even discovered
it, and with the advent and popularity of other places, like myriad blogs, or myspace pages or YouTube self published
videos, and the like, where people can easily post things for the public to read and see, the unique role of usenet has
become somewhat diluted. And in our field, the Ganoksin web site's Orchid list continues to grow, both because being
linked to a web site means anyone using a search engine for jewelry discussions finds it instantly, and because it's
grown to be the heavyweight on the block, also tending to preferentially draw people. So the role of r.c.j., once just
about the only decent place to discuss jewelry issues on the net, has evolved into a smaller quieter back room for folks
who just don't have the time or energy to wade through the volumes of material on Orchid, but who don't yet wish to just
disconnect totally. And that's OK with me, frankly. I'd be upset if the needs of the metals/jewelry community were not
being met by any site, but that's not the case. This group will survive and remain if people want it to, and in
whatever form they wish it to take. If the desire for this forum and need for this forum disappears totally, then so
will the people who make it the discussion group it is, and that will be that. Will we have lost something if that
happens? Perhaps. or perhaps not. That opinion is also for each user to decide. I enjoy the group, and moderating it
is a privilege as well as a chore sometimes. But if it dies, it's not like I'm going to get all depressed and angry at
the tragedy or anything... The net has changed enormously in the last couple decades, and even more every day. This
group is just one tiny part of it, and somewhat less able to change in part because unless readers as a whole ask me to
change the group or it's rules, I don't really feel free to do so. I'll do, of course, whatever a consensus of users of
the group wish, but so far few have suggested any changes. And as happens so often, now I'm starting to ramble...
cheers Peter Rowe moderator rec.crafts.jewelry
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Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:03 AM Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Rio Grande?
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:51:44 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry "Bright Shiny Objects Fascinate Me"
<bewitching.sparkle@gmail.com> wrote: [quote:f6a48a0bfe]I am currently a customer of Rio Grande, but I am
wondering if there are other suppliers I can look to or compare RG to. Any and all suggestions or comments would be
great. Thanks, -Sparkle- [/quote:f6a48a0bfe] Rio is certainly one of the largest in scope. of the jewelry supply
firms, but certainly not the only one, or always the best. Often, it depends on what you're looking for. as some firms
are a bit more specialized than Rio... Here's a few names of suppliers I use most often, in no particular order
Stuller (www.stuller.com) Contenti (www.contenti.com) Gesswein (www.gesswein.com) Otto Frei (http://www.ottofrei.com/)
I. Shor (www.ishor.com) Progress Tool (www.progresstool.com) Allcraft (http://allcraftonline.com/) And there are many
more, especially smaller firms that specialize in one particular area, such as enamelling supplies, or lapidary, etc.
And then there are the european firms, like Karl Fischer in Germany, etc... Peter
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Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:41 AM Post subject: Re: A golden hallmark
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:22:33 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry podgorny@gmail.com wrote: [quote:d92773348b]Just bought a pin
that states "1/20 G.F." on the back - from reading the posts, I understand the pin is 12K gold-plated. Here's
my questions, is there a way to tell the date of the mark? Thanks in advance [/quote:d92773348b] What' you've quoted is
indeed gold filled, but nothing in the "1/20 G.F." specifies 12K. It could be another karat. 14K is equally
common, and 10K is also seen.. The 1/20 is a fraction, denoting the fraction of the weight of the metal that is the
karat gold cladding. it can consist of a layer on each side of sheet metal (1/40th the weight on each side), or one
layer on one side only, the full 1/20th of the weight. Wire is a single outside layer, of course. Either way, the
remaining 19/20ths of the weight is the base metal core. The actual karat of the gold cladding of the metal is usually
indicated by a seperate karat mark. Most commonly, it's placed between the 1/20 fraction and the G.F. mark, but can be
just before or just after in a few cases. With jewelry made in the U.S., nothing in a hallmark indicates the date of
manufacture. Sometimes, a given piece can be dated by style, or by knowing that a certain identified manufacturer (who
CAN be identified if the hallmark is complete with a seperate makers mark) was in business at a certain time, or made
that style during a certain period, but this usually requires some research beyond just the markings on the piece. In
the United Kingdom, precious metals marking are done as actual hallmarks, meaning the marks are applied by an
independent testing/marking entity, in this case, run by the goverment hallmark office. A full British hallmark
includes not only the makers mark and one or more marks indicating the karat or quality of the metal, but also a mark
indicating which of the hallmark offices placed the mark, and the year it was marked. Because the hallmark on British
made items is not placed by the manufacturer, it serves not only as a mark, but a testament to the accuracy of that
mark, since the pieces are actually tested for metals content. Some other countries, especially in europe, also have
assay offices that place hallmarks on jewelry instead of the maker of the item, but rules vary. Here in the U.S.A.,
and in many other parts of the world, the marks are placed by the manufacturer, and while there are penalties of varying
severity for false marks, the marks constitute only a promise and statement by the maker for which they can be held
responsible, not an actual guarantee from any independent agency that the mark is actually accurate. And enforcement of
the standards requires first that an offender actually be caught. In the UK, since everthing is tested before being
marked, the only exceptions to the guarantee would be intentionally counterfeit hallmarks. People who do that, and get
caught, will find the penalties rather harsher in the UK than they might have found in the U.S. as well. HTH Peter
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Posted by minkiemink on Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:48 AM Post subject: Re: A golden hallmark
Peter W.. Rowe, wrote: [quote:58555341f8]On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:22:33 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry podgorny@gmail.com
wrote: Just bought a pin that states "1/20 G.F." on the back - from reading the posts, I understand the pin
is 12K gold-plated. Here's my questions, is there a way to tell the date of the mark? Thanks in advance What' you've
quoted is indeed gold filled, but nothing in the "1/20 G.F." specifies 12K. It could be another karat. 14K
is equally common, and 10K is also seen.. The 1/20 is a fraction, denoting the fraction of the weight of the metal
that is the karat gold cladding. it can consist of a layer on each side of sheet metal (1/40th the weight on each
side), or one layer on one side only, the full 1/20th of the weight. Wire is a single outside layer, of course. Either
way, the remaining 19/20ths of the weight is the base metal core. The actual karat of the gold cladding of the metal
is usually indicated by a seperate karat mark. Most commonly, it's placed between the 1/20 fraction and the G.F. mark,
but can be just before or just after in a few cases. With jewelry made in the U.S., nothing in a hallmark indicates
the date of manufacture. Sometimes, a given piece can be dated by style, or by knowing that a certain identified
manufacturer (who CAN be identified if the hallmark is complete with a seperate makers mark) was in business at a
certain time, or made that style during a certain period, but this usually requires some research beyond just the
markings on the piece. In the United Kingdom, precious metals marking are done as actual hallmarks, meaning the marks
are applied by an independent testing/marking entity, in this case, run by the goverment hallmark office. A full
British hallmark includes not only the makers mark and one or more marks indicating the karat or quality of the metal,
but also a mark indicating which of the hallmark offices placed the mark, and the year it was marked. Because the
hallmark on British made items is not placed by the manufacturer, it serves not only as a mark, but a testament to the
accuracy of that mark, since the pieces are actually tested for metals content. Some other countries, especially in
europe, also have assay offices that place hallmarks on jewelry instead of the maker of the item, but rules vary. Here
in the U.S.A., and in many other parts of the world, the marks are placed by the manufacturer, and while there are
penalties of varying severity for false marks, the marks constitute only a promise and statement by the maker for which
they can be held responsible, not an actual guarantee from any independent agency that the mark is actually accurate.
And enforcement of the standards requires first that an offender actually be caught. In the UK, since everthing is
tested before being marked, the only exceptions to the guarantee would be intentionally counterfeit hallmarks. People
who do that, and get caught, will find the penalties rather harsher in the UK than they might have found in the U.S. as
well. HTH Peter [/quote:58555341f8] Interesting. I have sold to several stores in the UK, but have never been asked
about, or required to have hallmarks of any kind, although I do stamp the karat and my trademark on the work. I guess
this only applies to domestic UK goods? Mink
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Posted by Andy Webber on Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:57 PM Post subject: Re: A golden hallmark
minkiemink wrote: [quote:c60e0238d8]Peter W.. Rowe, wrote: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:22:33 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry
podgorny@gmail.com wrote: Just bought a pin that states "1/20 G.F." on the back - from reading the posts, I
understand the pin is 12K gold-plated. Here's my questions, is there a way to tell the date of the mark? Thanks in
advance What' you've quoted is indeed gold filled, but nothing in the "1/20 G.F." specifies 12K. It could
be another karat. 14K is equally common, and 10K is also seen.. The 1/20 is a fraction, denoting the fraction of the
weight of the metal that is the karat gold cladding. it can consist of a layer on each side of sheet metal (1/40th the
weight on each side), or one layer on one side only, the full 1/20th of the weight. Wire is a single outside layer, of
course. Either way, the remaining 19/20ths of the weight is the base metal core. The actual karat of the gold cladding
of the metal is usually indicated by a seperate karat mark. Most commonly, it's placed between the 1/20 fraction and
the G.F. mark, but can be just before or just after in a few cases. With jewelry made in the U.S., nothing in a
hallmark indicates the date of manufacture. Sometimes, a given piece can be dated by style, or by knowing that a
certain identified manufacturer (who CAN be identified if the hallmark is complete with a seperate makers mark) was in
business at a certain time, or made that style during a certain period, but this usually requires some research beyond
just the markings on the piece. In the United Kingdom, precious metals marking are done as actual hallmarks, meaning
the marks are applied by an independent testing/marking entity, in this case, run by the goverment hallmark office. A
full British hallmark includes not only the makers mark and one or more marks indicating the karat or quality of the
metal, but also a mark indicating which of the hallmark offices placed the mark, and the year it was marked. Because
the hallmark on British made items is not placed by the manufacturer, it serves not only as a mark, but a testament to
the accuracy of that mark, since the pieces are actually tested for metals content. Some other countries, especially in
europe, also have assay offices that place hallmarks on jewelry instead of the maker of the item, but rules vary. Here
in the U.S.A., and in many other parts of the world, the marks are placed by the manufacturer, and while there are
penalties of varying severity for false marks, the marks constitute only a promise and statement by the maker for which
they can be held responsible, not an actual guarantee from any independent agency that the mark is actually accurate.
And enforcement of the standards requires first that an offender actually be caught. In the UK, since everthing is
tested before being marked, the only exceptions to the guarantee would be intentionally counterfeit hallmarks. People
who do that, and get caught, will find the penalties rather harsher in the UK than they might have found in the U.S. as
well. HTH Peter Interesting. I have sold to several stores in the UK, but have never been asked about, or required
to have hallmarks of any kind, although I do stamp the karat and my trademark on the work. I guess this only applies to
domestic UK goods? Mink [/quote:c60e0238d8] You do not need to register and have the goods assayed and marked; the
importer is responsible for this. The Assay Offices refer to what most people refer to as the "Maker's Mark"
as the "Sponsor's Mark". That is not just lingo - the mark is not that of the maker but the mark of the
person that put it through the assay office, or Sponsor (in your case, the importer/shop, one hopes). Hallmarking
applies to all goods sold in the UK as "silver", "gold" or "platinum" unless they are
exempt. Imported goods are explicitly included (there used to be a different mark used for imported goods although now
the same mark is used). The simplest exemption is weight, items under the exemption weight do not need to be
hallmarked, BUT they do still need to meet all the other regulations (eg on the fineness of solder, mixture of precious
and base metals etc): silver: 7.78g gold: 1g platinum: 0.5g It is a serious office for someone to sell something in the
UK claiming it to be made of gold, silver, platinum and for it to have not been hallmarked as such (save for the
permitted exceptions). These laws apply to anyone "in the trade" (including, eg, antique shops, pawn shops).
The penalties for offences under the hallmarking laws used to be death or deportation to a penal collony in times of
yore. I think now it is a maximum of 10 years inside. The hallmarking laws can be avoided by referring to items as
being made, for example, of "white metal" or "yellow metal". The closest you can get away with is
"... plated". All of which are understatements if the items are actually made of the real thing. Cheers Andy
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Posted by ukkie on Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:25 PM Post subject: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
Who can tell me what the best sites are if your looking for inspiration on handcrafted jewelry? Thanks! Ukkie
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Posted by Snaggeltooth on Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:29 AM Post subject: Re: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
Why do you have to view another persons work to be inspired? ST "ukkie" <ukkie@ukkepuk.com> wrote in
message news:2ij8f2pd15v1eq5vo6t25v0v29jnctk20i@4ax.com... Who can tell me what the best sites are if your looking for
inspiration on handcrafted jewelry? Thanks! Ukkie
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Posted by Marilee J. Layman on Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:30 AM Post subject: Re: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:25:19 GMT, "ukkie" <ukkie@ukkepuk.com> wrote: [quote:a2a9394175]Who can tell me
what the best sites are if your looking for inspiration on handcrafted jewelry? [/quote:a2a9394175] You might want to
ask this over on rec.crafts.beads. -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/
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Posted by Abrasha on Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:09 AM Post subject: Re: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
ukkie wrote: [quote:1dff48284d]Who can tell me what the best sites are if your looking for inspiration on handcrafted
jewelry? Thanks! Ukkie --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading
made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- [/quote:1dff48284d] ukkie@ukkepuk.com?!?
Neem me niet in de maling. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com
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Posted by minkiemink on Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:22 AM Post subject: Re: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
Abrasha wrote: [quote:114b8564a6]ukkie wrote: Who can tell me what the best sites are if your looking for inspiration=
on handcrafted jewelry? Thanks! Ukkie --------------=3D Posted using GrabIt =3D---------------- ------=3D Binary
Usenet downloading made easy =3D--------- -=3D Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =3D-
ukkie@ukkepuk.com?!? Neem me niet in de maling. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com [/quote:114b8564a6] Ik denk dat
dit "ukkepuk.com", is een forum voor ouders, dat voor =E9=E9n reden of een andere,wie kan niet access. Mink
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Posted by Abrasha on Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:48 AM Post subject: Re: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
minkiemink wrote: [quote:087dceb161]Abrasha wrote: ukkie wrote: Who can tell me what the best sites are if your looking
for inspiration= on handcrafted jewelry? Thanks! Ukkie --------------=3D Posted using GrabIt =3D----------------
------=3D Binary Usenet downloading made easy =3D--------- -=3D Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =3D-
ukkie@ukkepuk.com?!? Neem me niet in de maling. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Ik denk dat dit
"ukkepuk.com", is een forum voor ouders, dat voor =E9=E9n reden of een andere,wie kan niet access. Mink
[/quote:087dceb161] Hey Mink, Where did you learn Dutch like that? Not bad for a beginner. :) -- Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com
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Posted by minkiemink on Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:37 AM Post subject: Re: Req; sites for jewelry inspiration. Thanks!
Abrasha wrote: [quote:1a1ac3a6a1]minkiemink wrote: Abrasha wrote: ukkie wrote: Who can tell me what the best sites are
if your looking for inspiration= on handcrafted jewelry? Thanks! Ukkie --------------=3D Posted using GrabIt
=3D---------------- ------=3D Binary Usenet downloading made easy =3D--------- -=3D Get GrabIt for free from
http://www.shemes.com/ =3D- ukkie@ukkepuk.com?!? Neem me niet in de maling. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com Ik
denk dat dit "ukkepuk.com", is een forum voor ouders, dat voor =E9=E9n reden of een andere,wie kan niet
access. Mink Hey Mink, Where did you learn Dutch like that? Not bad for a beginner. :) -- Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com [/quote:1a1ac3a6a1] I lived overseas for some time 3 1/2 years in Holland for one. I speak Dutch
quite well, however I learned it without benifit of instruction, so my written Dutch is not as eloquent or correct as I
might prefer it to be. Mink
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View entire thread: Tidbits -- Final Issue
Posted by Jesse on Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:56 AM Post subject: Re: Tidbits -- Final Issue
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: [quote:319a6b9190]Benjamin Mark wrote: I unfortunately find myself in an unendurable position
and will therefore no longer be posting Tidbits to this group. Sincerely, Benjamin Mark a shame Maybe you could begin
the series over? Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) [/quote:319a6b9190] Carl, I'm not sure what the issue
was and I probably don't even want to know, but I thought they were entertaining and had a lot of style....a good
combination of humor and jewelry trivia. Here's a repository of 568 issues from the past. http://tinyurl.com/pve7u
-jdk-
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Posted by Carl 1 Lucky Texan on Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:58 PM Post subject: Re: Tidbits -- Final Issue
Jesse wrote: [quote:c59e515b49]Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: Benjamin Mark wrote: I unfortunately find myself in an
unendurable position and will therefore no longer be posting Tidbits to this group. Sincerely, Benjamin Mark a shame
Maybe you could begin the series over? Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) Carl, I'm not sure what the
issue was and I probably don't even want to know, but I thought they were entertaining and had a lot of style....a good
combination of humor and jewelry trivia. Here's a repository of 568 issues from the past. http://tinyurl.com/pve7u
-jdk- [/quote:c59e515b49] Thanx! Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net)
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Posted by sheesha on Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:30 AM Post subject: seeking wholesale bulk chain
i am a jewelry designer and am looking for a good website, or comapny where i can find wholesale bulk chain, especially
gold-filled. i have a resale license, so i am looking for wholesale only. does anyone know of anyplace? any help would
be greatly appreciated. thanks sheesha -- sheesha
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Posted by Snaggeltooth at work on Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:46 PM Post subject: Re: seeking wholesale bulk chain
Have you tried google? When I first started out, I googled the hell out of my computer searching for good companies for
product. I even picked up a few trade magazines and looked thru their advertisements for companies who list their web
sites. One that comes to mind is Firemountain... they carry sterling silver and gf chain in bulk. ST
"sheesha" <sheesha.2by21p@craftbanter.com> wrote in message
news:ouu2d2108appbo341rhbf98j7mb3meb9j3@4ax.com... | | i am a jewelry designer and am looking for a good website, or
comapny | where i can find wholesale bulk chain, especially gold-filled. i have a | resale license, so i am looking for
wholesale only. does anyone know of | anyplace? any help would be greatly appreciated. | | thanks | sheesha | | | | | --
| sheesha |
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Posted by Carol Trodella on Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:44 AM Post subject: Re: seeking wholesale bulk chain
Try riogrande.com. You'll have to order a catalogue since they don't sell online. "sheesha"
<sheesha.2by21p@craftbanter.com> wrote in message news:ouu2d2108appbo341rhbf98j7mb3meb9j3@4ax.com...
[quote:202e69422f] i am a jewelry designer and am looking for a good website, or comapny where i can find wholesale bulk
chain, especially gold-filled. i have a resale license, so i am looking for wholesale only. does anyone know of
anyplace? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks sheesha -- sheesha [/quote:202e69422f]
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View entire thread: ring repair
Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:03 AM Post subject: Re: ring repair
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:39:25 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry sugar1bead1prayer@venturecomm.net wrote:
[quote:19b55d3e0b]Hi, I have a question, does anyone know how to repair a silver ring? I was in an accident and the
paramedics had cut all my rings off and I would like to know where on the internet I can get the supplies neededto fix
them. Thank you, sugar There are many jewelry tools suppliers.[/quote:19b55d3e0b] Gesswein.com Contenti.com are just
two I like. However, if you're doing this from scratch, you'd be much better off finding a jeweler to do it for you.
The cost to repair even a fair number of silver rings is a good deal less than the investment in tools you'll need to do
this right yourself. There are no doubt a number of fine jewelers reading this newsgroup who'd be happy to help you out
via the U.S. mail. You'll then get a better, more professional repair job, and save money and time too. Silversmithing
is not a totally inexpensive field to get into... cheers Peter
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Posted by Frosty on Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:29 AM Post subject: Re: ring repair
As the sun rose on Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:30:34 -0700, the distinguished and oh so talented "Castle Jewellers"
<castlejewellers2@btconnect.com> climbed up to the podium, shuffled some papers, took a sip of ice water and
shouted in a loud voice: [quote:207f165f01]Would be cheaper just to take it into a working goldsmith. I charge =A35 and
the materials wouild cost far more. Dave [/quote:207f165f01] True. On a related note: The tool we jewelers (or
goldsmiths) use to cut a too-tight ring off is similar to that used by paramedics. The ones we buy are, like almost all
jewelry tools, way expensive. I found a medical supply house here in the White Trash Mountains=AE of Tennessee for a
mere $13.00US (=A36.83) ! And it has that "medical look" to it as well. Maybe I'll do an eBay thing with it.
Oh yeah, the blades are much larger than the ones sold by jewelry supply houses and they sell replacements. Frosty
[quote:207f165f01]sugar1bead1prayer@venturecomm.net> wrote in message=20
news:6uk2d29a1ls7fciu897vtuquv27c5ac9dl@4ax.com... Hi, I have a question, does anyone know how to repair a silver ring?
I was in an accident and the paramedics had cut all my rings off and I would like to know where on the Internet I can
get the supplies needed to fix them. Thank you, sugar =20 [/quote:207f165f01] --=20 Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes
gestemus! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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View entire thread: Did I miss a clue?
Posted by Carl on Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:40 PM Post subject: Did I miss a clue?
Perhaps my training in jewelry repair was lacking. When the maker puts the karat stamp right in the middle of the
shank, is that his subtle way of saying. "Don't even _think_ about trying to re-size this thing, I made it out of
scrap and it's going to melt on you no matter what kind of solder you try to use." Just griping really. But no
one gets to complain about me using extra easy on this POC. I'm thinking of engraving (very small) "Do Not
Resize" on the inside. _____in' POC. - Carl
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View entire thread: Sad news. Steven Kretchmer has died
Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:40 AM Post subject: Sad news. Steven Kretchmer has died
Those newsgroup readers in close contact with the commercial jewelry world may well have already heard this. Today, at
work, my boss had received several emails already, and a number of clients coming in, also had heard this through the
grapevine. So this is not likely the first everyone has heard of this. And my own info is very second hand, through
that grapevine, not direct. But for those not so closely connected with the grapevine, But it seems our industry has
lost an innovative and creative jewelry designer this last week end. Steven Kretchmer, I'm told, died this weekend in a
motorcycle accident. I'm told some auto apparently stopped and attempted a U turn on a blind curve in the road, and
Mr. Kretchmer, on his bike, was unable to see this in time to avoid a fatal accident. Mr. kretchmer's innovative work
over the years is best known for his line of tension set rings, processes and alloys for which he held several U.S.
patents. He's the developer of several unique heat treatable platinum alloys, which allowed his tension set platinum
rings to enjoy previously unprecedented hardness and durability, as well as the somewhat simpler, similarly heat
treatable/hardenable platinum alloys sold by Hoover and Strong as their platinum SK alloys. These alloys, by the way,
also provided the inspiration/starting point from which PM West (not connected with Kretchmer) developed the currently
available line of plumb platinum solders which some of us have come to love. Kretchmer's more recent innovations include
magnetic platinum (Polarium (tm)) alloys allowing him to design rings that literally cling to each other without solder
or other mechanical bonding, and his earlier work included some of the first examples of high quality mokume that was to
be found in the commercial jewelry world, including work with various custom colored alloys, and some of the first
commercially available work with purple gold. Overall, his work has been known for it's innovative metallurgy and
technology, high levels of aesthetic and artistic quality, and impeccable craftsmanship. Though I never had the
pleasure of meeting Mr. Kretchmer in person, I've known and admired his work for some time, and known many people who
have personally known him or worked with him, even including, at one point, when I was doing some of the trade work for
an Ann Arbor jewelry store for whom he had worked while a graduate student at the University of Michigan (it's a small
world sometimes). His contributions to our field have been significant and ongoing, an inspiration to many, and a
daunting challenge to his competitors. He will be missed by many. I offer my sincere condolences to his family and
friends Peter Rowe Seattle
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View entire thread: Sad news. Steven Kretchmer has died
Posted by Peter W.. Rowe, on Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:33 AM Post subject: Steven Kretchmer dies in motorcycle accident
Steven Kretchmer dies in motorcycle accident JCK-Jewelers Circular Keystone -- 7/10/2006 4:16:00 AM Jewelry designer
Steven Kretchmer of Palenville, N.Y., was killed in a motorcycle accident July 8. Kretchmer was widely known for his
work as a metallurgist as well as a jewelry designer. Woodstock, N.Y., police said Kretchmer, 52, was coming around a
curve on New York State Route 212 Saturday at 1:40 p.m. when his motorcycle struck a car that was turning around in the
road, the Daily Freeman in Kingston, N.Y., reports. Kretchmer was transported by ambulance to Benedictine Hospital in
Kingston where he was pronounced dead. Police cited the driver of the car, James Houston, 85, of Beacon, for failure to
yield the right-of-way, the publication reports. Neither Houston nor his passenger, whom police identified only as his
wife, was injured. Police reportedly said Kretchmer was wearing proper safety equipment at the time of the accident.
Kretchmer's signature platinum designs often featured tension-set diamonds and gems, inlaid gold, and, most recently, a
secret formula of magnetic platinum that appeared to float. His metallurgical work also produced other discoveries,
including purple and blue gold. He is survived by his wife, Alma, and daughter, Claudia, both of whom are involved in
Kretchmer's jewelry design business. Details will be published as they become available.
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View entire thread: Platinum Rings - all the same?
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:58 AM Post subject: Re: Platinum Rings - all the same?
IMHO , Platinum wedding bands , or any wedding bands are a commodity much like loose diamonds-compare like goods
(14K , 18K , Plat , 18K/Plat sandwich) and buy from a reputable store . Unlike most jewelry , bands aren't
keystoned (cost x 2) or triple keystoned (cost x 3) . Also , as someone else has pointed out , we
jewelers don't get a "quantity price " on gold or platinum- in fact , to get the market rate , on
gold at least, we need to buy 100 troy ounces to get that price , otherwise , it's 20 or 30 dollars more
per ounce . With all that in mind it is unlikely that one retail store is selling a plat band for 500 pounds
and another selling the same or comparable for 250 pounds . Were you in the states and didn't mind
buying used goods , I would direct you to my gold dealer who sells wedding bands at market + 20 dollars , for
example if he had two 14K bands totalling 1 troy ounce and 14K was at $ 380 / OZ that day , the
two bands would be $400 .Hope this helps .
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View entire thread: Where do I find out more informationon an antique ring?
Posted by Abrasha on Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:52 AM Post subject: Re: Where do I find out more informationon an antique ring?
Sarah Dale wrote: [quote:4b9111ae10]Hi All, I hope you can help me - this looked like the most pertinent newsgroup.
I'm looking for information about an antique ring that is in the family - I've never seen another one like it. Can you
help with ID and / or useful web sites I could look at? The ring in question is formed from a gold band with a fairly
proud rounded D profile. It has then been deeply engraved all over the top surface, to the extent it almost looks
carved, with flowers & leaves. IIRC it is between 100 & 200 years old, it is hall marked, but as I don't have
the ring with me, I can't tell you what the markings are. TIA, Sarah [/quote:4b9111ae10] It is impossible to identify
a piece of jewelry from the description you have given here. The first thing to do, if you want anyone in this ng to
be of any help, is post images to the web somewhere. So we can see what you want identified. Of prime importance are
images of the hallmarks, and any other stamps that may be on the inside of the ring. So get good close ups of those.
-- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com [[Moderator's note: Please remember that images or other graphics cannot be sent
directly to this newsgroup as attachments within the posting. To include an image, host the image on the web somewhere,
and include only the URL to the image in the newsgroup posting. Most ISP's give people web space for a home page that
can be used for this, or there are a number of free web hosting services where one can post images to the web. If you
need a place to host your pictures, two sites I know of are www.imageshack.ws or www.photobucket.com. Both are free to
use and seem easy enough.--PWR]]
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View entire thread: Where do I find out more informationon an antique ring?
Posted by Heinrich Butschal on Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:40 PM Post subject: Re: Where do I find out more informationon an antique ring?
Abrasha schrieb: [quote:003764af0f]Sarah Dale wrote: Hi All, I hope you can help me - this looked like the most
pertinent newsgroup. I'm looking for information about an antique ring that is in the family - I've never seen another
one like it. Can you help with ID and / or useful web sites I could look at? The ring in question is formed from a gold
band with a fairly proud rounded D profile. It has then been deeply engraved all over the top surface, to the extent it
almost looks carved, with flowers & leaves. IIRC it is between 100 & 200 years old, it is hall marked, but as
I don't have the ring with me, I can't tell you what the markings are. TIA, Sarah It is impossible to identify a
piece of jewelry from the description you have given here. The first thing to do, if you want anyone in this ng to be
of any help, is post images to the web somewhere. So we can see what you want identified. Of prime importance are
images of the hallmarks, and any other stamps that may be on the inside of the ring. So get good close ups of those.
[/quote:003764af0f] There is a german forum, here You might put Your question again and also load up some pictures of
Your ring. They will try to help You. http://www.goettgen.de/schmuck-foren/forum4.html Perhaps You find similar rings,
wich have bee just discussed. Abrasha is true, it is nearly impossible to determine a ring without pictures. Mit
freundlichem Gruß, Heinrich Butschal -- Schmuck gut verkaufen und günstig kaufen http://www.schmuck-boerse.com
Geschichten berühmter Juwelen http://www.royal-magazin.de Schmuck nach Maß anfertigen http://www.meister-atelier.de
Firmengeschenke und Ehrennadeln http://www.schmuckfabrik.de
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View entire thread: Where do I find out more informationon an antique ring?
Posted by Sarah Dale on Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:27 PM Post subject: Re: Where do I find out more informationon an antique ring?
Abrasha wrote: [quote:b57e4898c4]It is impossible to identify a piece of jewelry from the description you have given
here. The first thing to do, if you want anyone in this ng to be of any help, is post images to the web somewhere. So
we can see what you want identified. Of prime importance are images of the hallmarks, and any other stamps that may be
on the inside of the ring. So get good close ups of those. [/quote:b57e4898c4] I realise its very difficult from a
written desciption - I was hoping someone might know of a good website with photo's of different types of ring on, so
I could look it up. Sadly, I do not have any pictures of this ring in a web-postable format. I'm not in the same
location as the ring, so will have to wait until the end of July (when I travel to see the family) to investigate it
further. If the camera is up to it, I shall take closeups of the hallmarks and some pictures of the ring, put them on
the web and post back here, in the hope that someone will be able to help me further. Many thanks again. Sarah
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View entire thread: Free - Jewelry Pricing Calculator
Posted by pasternak Findings - Jewe on Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:19 PM Post subject: Free - Jewelry Pricing Calculator
Hello, I am pleased to introduce to you our unique on-line Jewelry Pricing Calculator which will assist you, the
goldsmith / jewelry designer, in calculating the real cost of your piece and will guide you through the whole process of
pricing its retail price. With this calculator you are able to break the piece's costs into three major categories as
follows: Raw Materials (Metals, Findings, Stones), Labor and Overhead. Each category of costs is divided into sub-
categories, called in our calculator:"section" On each section you can fill quantities and costs of the
different components of the piece and at the bottom of the calculator you could review the results of your calculation
on a summery table. In addition, after termination of the pricing process, the calculator enables you to calculate the
recommended retail price of your jewel, by changing the profit markups of all the players along the marketing chain,
that is: you the designer, the distributor/rep and the shop. For better use of our calculator we recommend you to
review the help section at the top of the calculator as well as at any section of the calculator. Click here for the
free jewelry pricing calculator: http://www.pasternakfindings.com/calculator/index7.asp For your convenient, there are
three more important tools: 1. The weight calculator - to calculate the weigth of wires and sheets in gold and silver by
the lengths and thickness. 2. Converter - which helps you convert form length unit to another length unit, from weight
unit to weight unit ect. 3. Conversion table - to convert sizes and weight from different karats. For any question or
assistant you may need, Contact us: Hila fishler info@pasternakfindings.com www.pasternakfindings.com
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View entire thread: fusing glass in pottery kiln
Posted by nJb on Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:59 AM Post subject: Re: fusing glass in pottery kiln
TravNo9 wrote: [quote:bbe1c77126]Can I fuse different pieces placed on stacked shelves in the kiln? Will the temp. be
too different shelf to shelf to predict what the result will be? [/quote:bbe1c77126] If you're fusing small pieces
like jewelry you can pull it off. Go slow and don't get greedy. Larger pieces are a maybe. Let us know how it works
out. -- Jack bobo1148atxmissiondotcom http://www.glassartguild.com/gallery/jack_bowman
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View entire thread: LOL Little swimmer!!!
Posted by fallen_ikon@yahoo.com on Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:38 PM Post subject: Re: LOL Little swimmer!!!
Polly S. wrote: [quote:e4f04b8609]http://snipurl.com/118za :) -- Polly don't spook my groove... email - webmaster
at beadfulheart dot com [/quote:e4f04b8609] wow. I cannot begin to imagine what sort of jewelry one might make with
that! -Amber.
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View entire thread: AD Harrisburg, Pa. area Jewelry & Bead Show
Posted by roxan on Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:10 PM Post subject: AD Harrisburg, Pa. area Jewelry & Bead Show
Hi Everyone, It has been a while since I have posted here. I have been very busy doing shows this past year. For all of
you who are in the Harrisburg area. I am having a jewelry show at HACC, Harrisburg Area Community College on Sunday
November 5th. from 1 pm. till 6 pm. Please drop by and say hello. We call ourselves the Jewelry Goddesses. It is a group
of girls that I work with that make jewelry. Contact me for more details. Roxan
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View entire thread: Where to Find?
Posted by Rhonda Bitter on Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:44 PM Post subject: Where to Find?
Does anyone know where I can find a reputable supplier for Dry Creek or Boulder turquoise? Someone seen some beautiful
jewelry in an Indian shop in Oklahoma and have asked me to create some jewelry for them if I can find the
stones................. Anyone out there know anything about these? Would appreciate any help......thanks in
advance................ Rhonda
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View entire thread: Where to Find?
Posted by Kalera on Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:17 AM Post subject: Re: Where to Find?
You might try asking these guys: http://www.temoaktribe.com/battlemtn.shtml They seem to be the source for the stuff,
and might at least be able to direct you to a reseller. Rhonda Bitter wrote: [quote:e47728540c]Does anyone know where
I can find a reputable supplier for Dry Creek or Boulder turquoise? Someone seen some beautiful jewelry in an Indian
shop in Oklahoma and have asked me to create some jewelry for them if I can find the stones................. Anyone out
there know anything about these? Would appreciate any help......thanks in advance................ Rhonda
[/quote:e47728540c] -- -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.bridgetownglass.com On eBay:
http://www.snurl.com/1sfe
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View entire thread: How to remove plastic/rubber liner from bottle caps?
Posted by Anonymous on Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:22 AM Post subject: Re: How to remove plastic/rubber liner from bottle caps?
I am using them for jewelry creations and am finding that if I leave the "ring" on them that it shows through
the back of my picture/sticker etc. once I pour on the resin. They look much better with the plain bottle cap. Thanks!
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View entire thread: How to remove plastic/rubber liner from bottle caps?
Posted by Kandice Seeber on Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:19 AM Post subject: Re: How to remove plastic/rubber liner from bottle caps?
Oh, cool! -- Kandice Seeber www.lampwork.net Vote for my site! http://tinyurl.com/bbcon <lauri203@yahoo.com>
wrote in message news:1160277744.770140.69720@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... [quote:a93877aa79]I am using them for
jewelry creations and am finding that if I leave the "ring" on them that it shows through the back of my
picture/sticker etc. once I pour on the resin. They look much better with the plain bottle cap. Thanks!
[/quote:a93877aa79]
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View entire thread: Which beading magazine to pick?
Posted by Barbara Forbes-Lyons on Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:14 AM Post subject: Re: Which beading magazine to pick?
Here are my opinions: Art Jewellery - metalwork, casting, PMC, some polymer clay Simply Beads - not familiar Bead and
Button - good all around mag - beadweaving, stringing, wirework, clay, etc. Step by Step Wire - Ok for wire things. I
usually find it too basic. BeadStyle - stringing only, some wire, nothing else Beadwork - stringing and beadweaving,
some wire, no clay of any type Bead Unique - full range of projects, not just jewelry JewelryCrafts - smaller all-around
mag. used to subscribe, no longer do Step by Step Beads - all around mag, good mix of projects Barbara Bead &
Polymer Clay Votary There is a very fine line between a hobby and mental illness. (Dave Barry)
http://www.penguintrax.com and http://www.backseatgrammarian.com NEW! http://www.polymerclayworkshops.com
calzephyr@gmail.com wrote: [quote:3728c27945]Hi guys, Because I work in a super cool place, everyone is getting a
magazine subscription of their choice through a magazine vendor. I can subscribe to one of the following magazines -
which one do you guys recommend? Art Jewellery Simply Beads Bead and Button Step by Step Wire BeadStyle I have bought
BeadStyle mags before, so I don't know if I should try the others... Best, Christine [/quote:3728c27945]
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View entire thread: Which beading magazine to pick?
Posted by Vibrant Jewels on Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:33 AM Post subject: Re: Which beading magazine to pick?
If you can only pick one, I'd go for Bead & Button, it has the most consistent mix of good quality projects out
there - although Beadwork and Bead Unique are just about as good. -- Karleen Page Member International Jewelry
Designers Guild (IJDG) Vibrant Jewels: http://www.vibrantjewels.com/jewelry/welcome.htm JustBeads:
http://www.justbeads.com/search/ql.cfm?s=21770 Join our Yahoo Group: vibrantjewels-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
"Barbara Forbes-Lyons" <penguintrax@penguintrax.com> wrote in message news:451c7371$1@news.bnb-
lp.com... [quote:56739f4bd5]Here are my opinions: Art Jewellery - metalwork, casting, PMC, some polymer clay Simply
Beads - not familiar Bead and Button - good all around mag - beadweaving, stringing, wirework, clay, etc. Step by Step
Wire - Ok for wire things. I usually find it too basic. BeadStyle - stringing only, some wire, nothing else Beadwork -
stringing and beadweaving, some wire, no clay of any type Bead Unique - full range of projects, not just jewelry
JewelryCrafts - smaller all-around mag. used to subscribe, no longer do Step by Step Beads - all around mag, good mix of
projects Barbara Bead & Polymer Clay Votary There is a very fine line between a hobby and mental illness. (Dave
Barry) http://www.penguintrax.com and http://www.backseatgrammarian.com NEW! http://www.polymerclayworkshops.com
calzephyr@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Because I work in a super cool place, everyone is getting a magazine subscription
of their choice through a magazine vendor. I can subscribe to one of the following magazines - which one do you guys
recommend? Art Jewellery Simply Beads Bead and Button Step by Step Wire BeadStyle I have bought BeadStyle mags before,
so I don't know if I should try the others... Best, Christine [/quote:56739f4bd5]
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View entire thread: Created Expressions
Posted by Christina Peterson on Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:02 AM Post subject: Created Expressions
I've spent most of today looking at different parts of this website. First I read this article on switching to precious
metal http://www.created-expression.com/express/ce/blog/ and checked out her esoteric stuff http://www.created-
expression.com/express/e/index.html Wandered long and deep through her jewelry http://www.created-
expression.com/express/j/index.html And she has wonderful links http://www.created-
expression.com/express/j/suppliers/index.html Today wasn't long enough http://www.created-
expression.com/express/home.html Way cool. Tina
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View entire thread: AD: Beads and Jewelry on Ebay
Posted by Beckibead on Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:49 AM Post subject: AD: Beads and Jewelry on Ebay
I have some large bills coming up and so I'm selling some stuff on Ebay. More will be posted tomorrow. I know I would
make more money if I made this stuff into jewelry myself and sold the jewelry, but I don't have time for all that, LOL.
And so I am selling off some of my jewelry supplies. Look if you want, and thanks:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbeckibeadQQhtZ-1 Becki
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View entire thread: AD: Beads and Jewelry on Ebay
Posted by Beckibead on Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:38 PM Post subject: Re: AD: Beads and Jewelry on Ebay
And, as always -- I'm an idiot!!! The beaded jewelry that I made all has bids on it. (Therefore, fool -- make more
beaded jewelry). Duh. Becki
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View entire thread: Juried in!!
Posted by Patti on Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:30 PM Post subject: Juried in!!
I'm so excited! I received the results of jurying for a high end art/craft show and I'm in! This will be my first show
outside of the Gathering where I'll be showing dichroic glass pendants and finished fused glass jewelry designs. Usually
I take a mix of beaded jewelry and dichro. I visited this show last year, there are some great artists there, so I was a
little nervous about getting in. It takes place at a prep school during Thanksgiving weekend. Patti
www.pattiwhiteley.com
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View entire thread: Juried in!!
Posted by Kalera on Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:46 AM Post subject: Re: Juried in!!
Patti wrote: [quote:330cae9cae]I'm so excited! I received the results of jurying for a high end art/craft show and I'm
in! This will be my first show outside of the Gathering where I'll be showing dichroic glass pendants and finished fused
glass jewelry designs. Usually I take a mix of beaded jewelry and dichro. I visited this show last year, there are some
great artists there, so I was a little nervous about getting in. It takes place at a prep school during Thanksgiving
weekend. Patti www.pattiwhiteley.com [/quote:330cae9cae] Congratulations, Patti! -- -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.bridgetownglass.com On eBay: http://www.snurl.com/1sfe
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View entire thread: Juried in!!
Posted by Barbara Forbes-Lyons on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:06 AM Post subject: Re: Juried in!!
YEAH! Barbara Beader and Polymer Clay Junky http://www.penguintrax.com and http://www.backseatgrammarian.com There is
a very fine line between a hobby and mental illness. (Dave Barry) Need quality, inexpensive web hosting with site
builder and 50 apps? Check out http://www.lyonshost.com. Patti wrote: [quote:9aca2d613a]I'm so excited! I received
the results of jurying for a high end art/craft show and I'm in! This will be my first show outside of the Gathering
where I'll be showing dichroic glass pendants and finished fused glass jewelry designs. Usually I take a mix of beaded
jewelry and dichro. I visited this show last year, there are some great artists there, so I was a little nervous about
getting in. It takes place at a prep school during Thanksgiving weekend. Patti www.pattiwhiteley.com
[/quote:9aca2d613a]
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View entire thread: Juried in!!
Posted by Beadbimbo on Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:21 PM Post subject: Re: Juried in!!
Congratuations, Patti! How exciting! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com "Patti" <DichroArtist@aol.com> wrote
in message news:1157049057.262882.104250@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... [quote:084e663b17]I'm so excited! I received
the results of jurying for a high end art/craft show and I'm in! This will be my first show outside of the Gathering
where I'll be showing dichroic glass pendants and finished fused glass jewelry designs. Usually I take a mix of beaded
jewelry and dichro. I visited this show last year, there are some great artists there, so I was a little nervous about
getting in. It takes place at a prep school during Thanksgiving weekend. Patti www.pattiwhiteley.com
[/quote:084e663b17]
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View entire thread: Drilling Turquoise
Posted by cmyers on Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:53 AM Post subject: Re: Drilling Turquoise
I don't reccomend ruining a perfectly good cab by putting a hole in it--but that's just me... ;-) ANYhoo--turquoise is
one of the easiest stones to drill or cut--cos it's so soft. Just drill with a small diamond drill bit stuck in a
dremel or something. Don't inhale the dust!! Try and drill it under water--a small shallow dish of water will keep it
cool while drilling and will lessen the inhaling risks. -- m3rma1d -- www.m3rma1d.com To reply in email, carefully
remove my panties. Thanks for the reply. I may not do much drilling and have a dremel (will need to purchase the
bit). Most of my jewelry is strung and some is wire wrapped. I'm not real good at wire wrapping cabs yet and many of
these cabs are very small. I've ordered some wrap tight cab findings that I'll be using, too, but wanted to know all my
options. Thanks again for the info. Carol -- cmyers
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View entire thread: OT - Flames
Posted by Anna W. on Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:47 PM Post subject: OT - Flames
I was cruising through the sterling silver jewelry and ran across this ring. Immediately I thought of the lampworkers.
It's too cool!! :) http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1681094 Anna W. in Tx
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View entire thread: OT - Flames
Posted by Dawn >^.. on Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:36 AM Post subject: Re: OT - Flames
Thanks for the link Anna! Those were so cool! I got the one from your link and another solid band with flames on it too.
-- Dawn "Art Insomnia" Web Site http://www.art-insomnia.com Auctions http://snipurl.com/my_ebay "
Anna W." <shellie554@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:XsIHg.199$dl.67@tornado.texas.rr.com...
[quote:f13f981aa0]I was cruising through the sterling silver jewelry and ran across this ring. Immediately I thought of
the lampworkers. It's too cool!! :) http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1681094 Anna W. in Tx
[/quote:f13f981aa0]
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View entire thread: OT - Flames
Posted by Anna W. on Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:29 AM Post subject: Re: OT - Flames
Hi Dawn...Glad I posted the link, then. :) I overlooked the solid band with flames but it's a cool one also. Anna W.
in Tx "Dawn >^..^<" <dawnscannell@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:fwNHg.17042$e9.11903@bignews4.bellsouth.net... [quote:46da6cf3c3]Thanks for the link Anna! Those were so cool! I
got the one from your link and another solid band with flames on it too. -- Dawn "Art Insomnia" Web Site
http://www.art-insomnia.com Auctions http://snipurl.com/my_ebay " Anna W."
<shellie554@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:XsIHg.199$dl.67@tornado.texas.rr.com... I was cruising through
the sterling silver jewelry and ran across this ring. Immediately I thought of the lampworkers. It's too cool!! :)
http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1681094 Anna W. in Tx [/quote:46da6cf3c3]
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View entire thread: OT - Flames
Posted by Beadbimbo on Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:49 AM Post subject: Re: OT - Flames
Ooooooooooo, I like the solid band one!!! -- Jerri www.beadbimbo.com " Anna W."
<shellie554@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:XsIHg.199$dl.67@tornado.texas.rr.com... [quote:77c1a12cf5]I
was cruising through the sterling silver jewelry and ran across this ring. Immediately I thought of the lampworkers.
It's too cool!! :) http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1681094 Anna W. in Tx [/quote:77c1a12cf5]
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Posted by Kalera on Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:30 AM Post subject: Re: OT - Flames
Anna W. wrote: [quote:63ddd8b2a6]I was cruising through the sterling silver jewelry and ran across this ring.
Immediately I thought of the lampworkers. It's too cool!! :)
http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1681094 Anna W. in Tx [/quote:63ddd8b2a6] Ooooh that's awesome!
Thanks Anna! -- -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.bridgetownglass.com On eBay: http://www.snurl.com/1sfe
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Posted by Anna W. on Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:13 AM Post subject: Re: OT - Flames
Hi Kalera... You're most welcome. :) Anna W. in Tx "Kalera" <kalera@strattonhome.org> wrote in
message news:c8idnfqebJ4ZX2XZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:d73e25f855]Anna W. wrote: I was cruising through
the sterling silver jewelry and ran across this ring. Immediately I thought of the lampworkers. It's too cool!! :)
http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1681094 Anna W. in Tx Ooooh that's awesome! Thanks Anna! --
-Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.bridgetownglass.com On eBay: http://www.snurl.com/1sfe[/quote:d73e25f855]
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Posted by Glitzy Glass on Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:35 PM Post subject: AD New Ebay Auctions up from Glitzy Glass Studio
My goodness, I thought I would never get back to auctions. http://snipurl.com/d3im The new grand daughter is just so
fun to spend time with, but I have to admit I was really missing the torch and creating. Opps forgot to share - I know
most of you make jewelry but I wanted to share my new bracelets inspired by Connie Fox! http://snipurl.com/usia Hugs to
all Denise Glitzy Glass Studio www.glassbeadz.com
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Posted by Anonymous on Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:46 AM Post subject: AD: Custom bracelets and earrings at www.beadlam.ca
Hi, Beadlam is a new website featuring hand-made bracelets, earrings and scarves. The website is as much a record of
the items I've created as it is a store with jewelry for sale. If you're interested please feel free to visit at:
www.beadlam.ca or to drop me an e-mail at info@beadlam.ca Thanks!
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View entire thread: [Issue #155] Tips From The Jeweler's Bench
Posted by Ganoksin on Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:17 PM Post subject: [Issue #155] Tips From The Jeweler's Bench
The Ganoksin Project S i n c e 1 9 9 6 Jewelry Manufacturing Methods and Techniques http://www.ganoksin.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------- Orchid Summer Raffle - Build a Bench
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Clasp - A Convergence of Jewelers. Nashville, Tennessee, September 15-17, 2006. http://www.claspconvergence.com
Brought to you by Rio Grande, The Ganoksin Project, Manufacturing Jewelers and Suppliers of America (MJSA), The
Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG), and Bench Media.
------------------------------------------------------------------------- In This Edition: 1. Use Cold
Connections To Make Your Jewelry Hot 2. Modern Lockets 3. Three Details That Have a Big Impact on Jewelry
Buyers 4. Spreading The Word - Ten Steps Toward Achieving Great PR 5. Bracelet Tongue Replacement 6. A
Stone Laser Shield 7. The World of Pearls - Introduction and Overview 8. The Tahitian Black Pearl 9.
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This Edition of Tips From The Jeweler's Bench http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/tip_sear.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Book! - Making the Most of Your Flex-
shaft By Karen Christians Making the Most of Your Flex-shaft is the one resource you'll need to ensure you gain maximum
advantage from your flex-shaft system. Learn how to select the right system, how to choose and use the latest
accessories and attachments, and how to properly maintain your system for extended life. See why so many jewelers are
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Use Cold Connections To Make Your Jewelry
Hot By Sung Woo Hong Cold connections are great alternatives to soldering, especially if you want to use fragile or
flammable materials in your jewelry designs. Cold connections have many variations, and this project will give you a
closer look at hinged tabs and two styles of rivets. In this bracelet, they become more than just a heat-free option --
they are the focus of the design. Half of the bracelet's brass panels are riveted flush to the copper links, while
alternate brass panels are raised with spaced rivets. For added design interest, the brass panels are embossed using
roll-printing. The hinged tab s connect the bracelet links and visually blend with the clasp for a seamless look....
Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/rivets.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Modern Lockets By Nanz Aalund Before
photography, lockets were decorated with miniature, handpainted portraits -- a luxury few could afford. The advent of
affordable photographic miniatures propelled the locket to the forefront of jewelry fashion during the sentimental
Victorian era. Between 1890 and 1920, ornately crafted lockets were suspended from bracelets, necklaces, brooches,
belts, and chatelaines. Ladies of fashion were not seen without one, and men wore them on their watch chains. During
World War I, many soldiers wore lockets into battle as a reminder of loved ones at home. Lockets have since fallen out
of fashion, and distinctive lockets are hard to find. With this project, you no longer have to rely on a fashion trend
to have a high-quality locket -- you can create your own. You will learn how to make the traditional hinged locket and
an easier slide locket.... Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/modern-lockets.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Three Details That Have a Big Impact on
Jewelry Buyers By Michael Bondanza Quality matters to Michael Bondanza; he has been known to rebuild entire
finished pieces -- some containing hundreds of precisely inlaid stones and articulated component parts -- to ensure that
the gems aligned exactly, the hinges opened smoothly, and every detail met his exacting standards. Such dedication to
craftsmanship has earned him world renown over his 30 - year career, as well as a clientele that includes The Johnson
Family's Diamond Cellar, Lux Bond & Green, and Tivol, to name just a few. Yet not every detail requires great
investments of time or money to produce. In this arti cle, Bondanza describes three small improvements that can be made
at very little cost, but which can transform the quality of a piece from average to exquisite.... Complete Story:
http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/finer-points.htm
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This is your chance to win some amazing prizes!! The total for prizes value is $12,025.90 US$! Grand
Prize: $ 10,525.90 2nd Prize: $1,000 3rd Prize: $500 he winners will be selected on August 1, 2006
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4. Spreading The Word - Ten steps Toward Achieving Great PR By Linda Goldstein Dunay For more than 30 years, Linda
Goldstein Dunay has devoted her career to helping fine jewelry manufacturers reach their customers. The founder of
Goldstein Com-munications in New York City, she has worked with a range of clients, including The JCK Show -- Las Vegas,
Hearts on Fire, and her husb and, Henry Dunay. Yet regardless of the client, achieving great PR relies on following a
few basic tenets, which are outlined below.... Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/pr-101.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Bracelet Tongue Replacement By Brad
Simon With the popularity of tennis bracelets over the last 20 years replacing broken tongues has become a common
repair in the jewelry shop. Typically these are replaced by soldering a new tongue in place. However, using a torch to
solder a tongue onto a bracelet creates two problems.... Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/
bracelet-tongue-repair.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. A Stone Laser
Shield By Steve Satow I have found this to be a most useful tool to use when rebuilding a bezel using a Laser
Welder. It is made from a watchmaker's screwdriver and is used to deflect the excess energy reflected at a sensitive
stone to prevent damage to the stone's surface. This view of the finished product shows 1.5mm X 2mm piece of fine silver
welded to the blade tip.... Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/stone-laser-shield.htm
------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. The World of Pearls - Introduction and
Overview By Richard W. Wise The romance of the South Seas! The exotic mystery of the black pearl! It is this
combination that has lured me to travel over ten thousand miles to Manihi Island, a remote speck of land in the Tuamotu
island group, three hundred fifty miles northeast of Tahiti. It is only in these far-off islands that the natural
conditions exist for the culture of this unique gem.... Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/world-of-
pearls.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. The Tahitian Black Pearl
By Richard W. Wise The black pearl was not known at all in the West in ancient times. Black pearls first came on the
market in 1845. Originally they were not highly esteemed, selling for a fraction of the price brought by white pearls
from the traditional sources in the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Mannar. The Empress Eugenie, wife of Napoleon III, was
the person most responsible for bringing the black pearl into fashion. After the fall of Napoleon III, a fine necklace
owned by the former Empress was auctioned at Christie's for twenty thousand dollars, the equivalent of several hundred
thousand of today's dollars.... Complete Story: http://www.ganoksin.com/borisat/nenam/black-pearls.htm
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gem enthusiasts like you to outfit your studio. http://www.ganoksin.com/events/summer-06.htm Total prize package is
$12,025.90 All raffle proceeds go directly to support Ganoksin and supports exchange of free information for all. The
winners will be selected on August 1, 2006. Ticket price is only $39! Our comprehensive list of suppliers are those who
believe in Orchid and the power of jewelry information exchange. Please do your part in supporting these vendors when
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