View entire thread: Organization Using 100% Wool Yarn
Posted by Jackie on Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:39 PM    Post subject: Re: Organization Using 100% Wool Yarn



Linda F wrote: [quote:6a1768d645]I am looking for a charitable organization which can use 100% wool yarn. We have a
large quantity of this we'd like to donate to a group which can make use of it. Suggestions please! Thanks!
[/quote:6a1768d645] Please check out the website of Warmwoolies.org! I have been knitting for this group since last
February, and have gotten more and more involved as I see what a terrific charity it is. We knit WOOL vests, sweaters,
hats and felted booties and send them to children in some of the poorest, coldest places -- our current list includes
orphanages in Russian and Kazhakhstan, street children in Mongolia, and the Rosebud and Pine Ridge reservations in South
Dakota, which are about the poorest communities in the United States. Kimberly, the director of Warm Woolies, is
currently on her annual trip to the reservations, where she is delivering approximately 1500 pieces of hand-knit
clothing. Our total goal for 2006 is 5000 pieces. One thing that I love about Warmwoolies is that it provides yarn,
needles and instruction to several knitting groups in nursing homes and retirement homes, giving these elderly people a
terrific opportunity to accomplishing something really useful. If you want to send us your wool yarn, I can guarantee
it will be put to good use! --Jackie Hoffman (see Aug. and Sept. "pattern of th month" on the warmwoolies
website -- that's me!)

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View entire thread: Organization Using 100% Wool Yarn
Posted by Leah on Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:56 AM    Post subject: Re: Organization Using 100% Wool Yarn

[quote:0b2da39228]I am looking for a charitable organization which can use 100% wool yarn. We have a large quantity of
this we'd like to donate to a group which can make use of it. [/quote:0b2da39228] Have you considered giving the yarn to
a knitting or crocheting group close to you that knits and crochets for charity? Many charities dealing with knitted or
crocheted items prefer to get the finished items from knitters and crocheters who donate their time and yarn to make the
items. I know some are quite happy to get 100% wool items as long as they are clearly marked so they can be properly
washed. Leah

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Posted by Alison on Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:51 AM    Post subject: Re: Organization Using 100% Wool Yarn

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:16:23 GMT, WoolyGooly <slinky@fysh.org> wrote: [quote:f21b4351bc]It would help to know
where you're located, or if you're willing to ship at your expense. On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:51:06 GMT, "Linda
F" <lfranklin@mchsi.com wrote: I am looking for a charitable organization which can use 100% wool yarn. We
have a large quantity of this we'd like to donate to a group which can make use of it. Suggestions please! Thanks! I
know that my library (Brooklyn NY) has started several knitting[/quote:f21b4351bc] groups and is always looking for
worsted weight wool for the students to use. Maybe this is true in your area as well! Alison

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View entire thread: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting
Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:30 AM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

Nice story Gina mirjam 2:38 -0400, Gina Bull <ginabull@virginia.edu> wrote: [quote:8b206b5d2e]My mom told me
that when I was a bald little baby she would use tape to stick on a hair ribbon so folks would know I was a girl. So
maybe the hat just needs a roll of double-sided tape to go with it. :-) Kidding aside, it is *very* pretty! Gina BB
wrote: Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments! You all may have inspired me to go for knitting the dress. If I
do, I should make the size for 36 months to give me a chance to have it done in time :P I know the hat probably won't
stay on her head very well since there isn't much elasticity, but *everything* doesn't have to be practical, does it?
:) BB[/quote:8b206b5d2e]

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Posted by YarnWright on Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:46 AM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:47:37 GMT, BB spun a fine yarn [quote:802cd45174]Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments!
You all may have inspired me to go for knitting the dress. If I do, I should make the size for 36 months to give me a
chance to have it done in time :P I know the hat probably won't stay on her head very well since there isn't much
elasticity, but *everything* doesn't have to be practical, does it? :) BB --- BB![/quote:802cd45174] I haven't been
here much, but I, too, wanted to compliment you on your work! :D Noreen -- I am not young enough to know everything.
http://www.lulu.com/content/292418 - - - - - --- avast! AV: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0642-0,
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Posted by Gina Bull on Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:42 PM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

My mom told me that when I was a bald little baby she would use tape to stick on a hair ribbon so folks would know I
was a girl. So maybe the hat just needs a roll of double-sided tape to go with it. :-) Kidding aside, it is *very*
pretty! Gina BB wrote: [quote:3283a59fa1]Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments! You all may have inspired
me to go for knitting the dress. If I do, I should make the size for 36 months to give me a chance to have it done in
time :P I know the hat probably won't stay on her head very well since there isn't much elasticity, but *everything*
doesn't have to be practical, does it? :) BB[/quote:3283a59fa1]

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Posted by BB on Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:47 PM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

Wow....thanks again for all of the compliments! You all may have inspired me to go for knitting the dress. If I do, I
should make the size for 36 months to give me a chance to have it done in time :P I know the hat probably won't stay
on her head very well since there isn't much elasticity, but *everything* doesn't have to be practical, does it? :)
BB

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Posted by nancych on Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:46 AM    Post subject: Re: My first attempt at two-stranded knitting

That is great knitting! I'm impressed. Nancy BB wrote: [quote:0e9f23f81e]Thanks for the compliments! <blush The
pattern is from Dalegarn book 135. http://www.ardithkeef.com/yarnroom/Patternbooks/DaleGarn/135.asp A close up pic
from the pattern site http://www.ardithkeef.com/yarnroom/Patternbooks/DaleGarn/135/2.jpg The pattern calls for
fingering weight yarn, but since this was a learning exercise, I used DK (Dreambaby) and knit the newborn size. I also
used the next bigger size hook to crochet the border so it sticks out a little instead of lying flat. I think the
proportions worked out ok for a toddler or younger hat, depending on her head size. She is due to be born in January.
My first grandchild! BB[/quote:0e9f23f81e]

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View entire thread: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS
Posted by SpikeDriver on Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:24 AM    Post subject: Re: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS

Nancy, Thank you. Gail was in better spirits today. There is a limit for her rehab, I hope they can help before Gail
comes home. Well I hope I don't do that :) . I will post pictures when I get some finished to let you know what I do.
I have been out of the square exchange for a long time. Hugs & God bless, Dennis & Gail nancych wrote:
[quote:cf0e7761f7]I hope Gail comes home soon. Yes I have the book and I'm ashamed to admit, I have looked at it at
least a hundred times but never made one of the squares. I shall remedy that soon. Let me know what you make and colors,
it may inspire me too. Nancy SpikeDriver wrote: Hello dear friends, I just acquired "200 Knitted Blocks" by
Jan Eaton. It is great, I might even get back into the block exchange. It even gets into intarsia, 2 color knitting,
cables, and etc. Meaning, it is good for beginners to advance knitters. I picked it up at Barnes and Noble. Has
anyone else read it, what do you think. I love it when you get a book that is worth what you paid. OT Gail is still
in the rehab hospital, I don't thing she will be home Thursday as expected. She is doing a little better but, the
progress is slow. She is getting better. It is awful lonely here. Hugs & god bless, Dennis & Gail
Nancy[/quote:cf0e7761f7]

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Posted by SpikeDriver on Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:20 AM    Post subject: Re: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS

Alison wrote: [quote:8315361097]On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:48:28 -0500, SpikeDriver <sysadman@charter.net wrote: Hello
dear friends, I just acquired "200 Knitted Blocks" by Jan Eaton. It is great, I might even get back into the
block exchange. It even gets into intarsia, 2 color knitting, cables, and etc. Meaning, it is good for beginners to
advance knitters. I picked it up at Barnes and Noble. Has anyone else read it, what do you think. I love it when you
get a book that is worth what you paid. Hi Dennis - my sister and I both used this book to make the afghan squares for
my mother's afghan. The 2-color slip stitch patterns are particularly worthwhile in my opinion, I had never understood
this kind of knitting before and my sister was a new (6-month) knitter and we both used a number of the patterns. And I
grasped the mitered square finally also. One tiny caveat - I don't think there are really 200 patterns, she uses that
leaf an awful lot. But - I think it's WELL WORTH it. And seeing the colored pictures is kind of inspirational for me
too. Alison Alison,[/quote:8315361097] I noticed the same thing. Some patter were just color changes. I purchased
with the idea of getting back into the square exchange, I was in it for a long time and got busy with other things.
Thanks for the response. Hugs & God bless, Dennis & Gail

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Posted by nancych on Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:43 AM    Post subject: Re: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS

I hope Gail comes home soon. Yes I have the book and I'm ashamed to admit, I have looked at it at least a hundred times
but never made one of the squares. I shall remedy that soon. Let me know what you make and colors, it may inspire me
too. Nancy SpikeDriver wrote: [quote:a987059a85]Hello dear friends, I just acquired "200 Knitted Blocks" by
Jan Eaton. It is great, I might even get back into the block exchange. It even gets into intarsia, 2 color knitting,
cables, and etc. Meaning, it is good for beginners to advance knitters. I picked it up at Barnes and Noble. Has
anyone else read it, what do you think. I love it when you get a book that is worth what you paid. OT Gail is still
in the rehab hospital, I don't thing she will be home Thursday as expected. She is doing a little better but, the
progress is slow. She is getting better. It is awful lonely here. Hugs & god bless, Dennis &
Gail[/quote:a987059a85]

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Posted by Alison on Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:00 PM    Post subject: Re: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:48:28 -0500, SpikeDriver <sysadman@charter.net> wrote: [quote:32701257cb]Hello dear
friends, I just acquired "200 Knitted Blocks" by Jan Eaton. It is great, I might even get back into the
block exchange. It even gets into intarsia, 2 color knitting, cables, and etc. Meaning, it is good for beginners to
advance knitters. I picked it up at Barnes and Noble. Has anyone else read it, what do you think. I love it when you
get a book that is worth what you paid. Hi Dennis - my sister and I both used this book to make the
afghan[/quote:32701257cb] squares for my mother's afghan. The 2-color slip stitch patterns are particularly worthwhile
in my opinion, I had never understood this kind of knitting before and my sister was a new (6-month) knitter and we both
used a number of the patterns. And I grasped the mitered square finally also. One tiny caveat - I don't think there
are really 200 patterns, she uses that leaf an awful lot. But - I think it's WELL WORTH it. And seeing the colored
pictures is kind of inspirational for me too. Alison

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Posted by Shillelagh on Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:32 AM    Post subject: Re: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS

"SpikeDriver" <sysadman@charter.net> wrote in message news:miDYg.1124$di5.195@newsfe06.lga...
[quote:248b6fd451] Gail is still in the rehab hospital, I don't thing she will be home Thursday as expected. She is
doing a little better but, the progress is slow. She is getting better. It is awful lonely here. Hugs & god
bless, Dennis & Gail [/quote:248b6fd451] Aww Dennis - so sorry to hear she won't be home as soon as you expected.
At least you have your friends here who are happy to keep you company. Keep your chin up! Sending knitting hugs your
way..... Shelagh

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Posted by SpikeDriver on Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:48 AM    Post subject: Jan Eaton's 200 KNITTED BLOCKS

Hello dear friends, I just acquired "200 Knitted Blocks" by Jan Eaton. It is great, I might even get back
into the block exchange. It even gets into intarsia, 2 color knitting, cables, and etc. Meaning, it is good for
beginners to advance knitters. I picked it up at Barnes and Noble. Has anyone else read it, what do you think. I
love it when you get a book that is worth what you paid. OT Gail is still in the rehab hospital, I don't thing she
will be home Thursday as expected. She is doing a little better but, the progress is slow. She is getting better.
It is awful lonely here. Hugs & god bless, Dennis & Gail

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View entire thread: Question about gauge in fair isle
Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:43 AM    Post subject: Re: Question about gauge in fair isle

I think [and it happened to me in my experience of this technique],That the pulling together that happens to the
stitches , sort of `makes` them a bit taller /longer `. mirjam [quote:1575cfb949]So I've got a pattern here for a
sweater for my hubby. I'm trucking along, knitting up a swatch* , when I notice that my gauge seems a bit off. The
gauge is listed as such: 20 sts and 26 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in stocking st. 21.5 sts and 22 rows = 4
ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in fair isle pat. Here's my question: Wouldn't the number of rows increase as well,
since the fair isle fabric is more tightly knit? I looked on Paton's website, but the pattern's an old one and isn't
listed in their errata. I'll bow to the collective wisdom of the group, but I'm thinking my gauge should be 21.5 sts
and 28 or so rows for every 4 inches. Whatcha think? Anastasia --who thinks Paton's really should list errata for ALL
of their books, or at least do a better job of proofreading them before they go to market! * yes, I'm actually knitting
a swatch first. I've noted the day on my calendar so that I may celebrate the rare occurence come this time next year.
** pattern is book 715: "The Joy of Pure Wool", (c) 1994 in case anyone was interested. [/quote:1575cfb949]

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Posted by DA on Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:59 PM    Post subject: Re: Question about gauge in fair isle

"Teacher Gal" <luets@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1160974034.436344.91710@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quote:cfef1d4525]The folks who have replied are gratefully
thanked, as are any who still wish to chime in. I'm still trying to get my horizontal gauge correct at this point;
still experimenting. The vertical gauge, though, seems to be off. The original was 20 sts and 26 rows = 4 ins [10cm]
with 4.5 mm needles in stocking st. 21.5 sts and 22 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in fair isle pat. but mine
is closer to 22 sts, 24 rows. Granted, this is my first fair isle attempt, and I really don't want to subject my hubby
to another grossly oversized sweater*, so I'm swatching like a madwoman. I've been fiddling with a simple stranding
pattern of 3 st x 3 st boxes of color, but the actual pattern stitch is a bit more open. The next step is to try using
the 4.5 mm needles one more time and do a 6" x 6" swatch using the actual pattern to see if my gauge is still
off. If that fails, we'll move up a size in needle. I'm a notoriously loose knitter, once I get going, so I'm a bit
hesitant to go up a needle size. [/quote:cfef1d4525] The row gauge of 24 sts will distort the patterns slightly, making
them a bit taller than they should be. Since only a knitter would notice this, you can decide if it matters.
[quote:cfef1d4525] Also, a book I have suggests using a circular needle for fair isle. I love circulars, and understand
how the yarn won't get screwy at the end of rows if you use circulars, but I was hoping to use straight needles for this
one. Of course, my book doesn't give much assistance when it comes to dealing with the issue of that second strand of
yarn. I've been twisting the two strands together before I turn, but that's been pulling the work in on the ends. I'm
thinking there are three ways to attack this little tricky bit: 1) Do the first and last stitch of every row in an
alternate color, then hide that stich in the seam. Creates a bulkier seam, but would probably help keep those ends from
pulling in so badly. [/quote:cfef1d4525] I will confess that I have never knitted a Fair Isle with anything but jumper
weight yarn, using circular needles to knit up to the armhole. Traditional patterns only use two colors per row, if you
are knitting two rows with the same colors, knit the first stitch on the working row and catch the non-working yarn to
bring it into the proper postition. [quote:cfef1d4525] 2) Cut the yarn at the end of every row and knot the two strands
together? I really hate this idea, as I don't want knots to add to the bulk of the seams. 3) Chuck the others and re-
design the sweater myself (I think I can do that) to allow for a circular construction. If I do decide to go with
circulars, how do you switch yarn colors? I've always just used one color before, so splicing in was never a problem.
I would think that a splice would just be ugly.....or should I try that join that twists back on itself (I believe it's
called a Russian join)? [/quote:cfef1d4525] It could be worked like an intarsia pattern, darning in the ends when you
are done. If your library has Alice Starmore's book on Fair Isle knitting, it would be a helpful read. DA

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View entire thread: Question about gauge in fair isle
Posted by Georgia on Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:50 AM    Post subject: Re: Question about gauge in fair isle

Are you knitting your swatch in Fair Isle patterns? (Four inches should take you through at least 3 or 4 patterns.)
Won't that answer the question definitively? Georgia "Teacher Gal" <luets@charter.net> wrote in
message news:1160963383.745513.223810@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quote:f36ce0e559]So I've got a pattern here for a
sweater for my hubby. I'm trucking along, knitting up a swatch* , when I notice that my gauge seems a bit off. The
gauge is listed as such: 20 sts and 26 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in stocking st. 21.5 sts and 22 rows = 4
ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in fair isle pat. Here's my question: Wouldn't the number of rows increase as well,
since the fair isle fabric is more tightly knit? I looked on Paton's website, but the pattern's an old one and isn't
listed in their errata. I'll bow to the collective wisdom of the group, but I'm thinking my gauge should be 21.5 sts
and 28 or so rows for every 4 inches. Whatcha think? Anastasia --who thinks Paton's really should list errata for ALL
of their books, or at least do a better job of proofreading them before they go to market! * yes, I'm actually knitting
a swatch first. I've noted the day on my calendar so that I may celebrate the rare occurence come this time next year.
** pattern is book 715: "The Joy of Pure Wool", (c) 1994 in case anyone was interested. [/quote:f36ce0e559]

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Posted by DA on Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:28 AM    Post subject: Re: Question about gauge in fair isle

-- Never say die. I've tried, and it doesn't actually make people die. "Teacher Gal"
<luets@charter.net> wrote in message news:1160963383.745513.223810@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:247acaaa2a]So I've got a pattern here for a sweater for my hubby. I'm trucking along, knitting up a swatch* ,
when I notice that my gauge seems a bit off. The gauge is listed as such: 20 sts and 26 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5
mm needles in stocking st. 21.5 sts and 22 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in fair isle pat. Here's my
question: Wouldn't the number of rows increase as well, since the fair isle fabric is more tightly knit? I looked on
Paton's website, but the pattern's an old one and isn't listed in their errata. [/quote:247acaaa2a] No the row gauge
should not increase, you are not stranding the wool vertically. The density of the fabric and slightly tighter gauge
is the result of stranding the wool horizontally. DA

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Posted by Teacher Gal on Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:49 AM    Post subject: Question about gauge in fair isle

So I've got a pattern here for a sweater for my hubby. I'm trucking along, knitting up a swatch* , when I notice that
my gauge seems a bit off. The gauge is listed as such: 20 sts and 26 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in
stocking st. 21.5 sts and 22 rows = 4 ins [10cm] with 4.5 mm needles in fair isle pat. Here's my question: Wouldn't
the number of rows increase as well, since the fair isle fabric is more tightly knit? I looked on Paton's website, but
the pattern's an old one and isn't listed in their errata. I'll bow to the collective wisdom of the group, but I'm
thinking my gauge should be 21.5 sts and 28 or so rows for every 4 inches. Whatcha think? Anastasia --who thinks
Paton's really should list errata for ALL of their books, or at least do a better job of proofreading them before they
go to market! * yes, I'm actually knitting a swatch first. I've noted the day on my calendar so that I may celebrate
the rare occurence come this time next year. ** pattern is book 715: "The Joy of Pure Wool", (c) 1994 in case
anyone was interested.

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View entire thread: New page on my site with free MK hat and scarf pattern
Posted by Leah on Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:59 PM    Post subject: New page on my site with free MK hat and scarf pattern

Hi everyone, I've added a page to my site. I'm hosting it for a friend since I already have an account and know a
little bit about web page building. These were designed for another friend, a big Harry Potter fan, who was tragically
killed in an auto accident, so she never got the finished items, and the patterns are being offered for free in memory
of her generous spirit. The pattern is for an ISM or USM knitting machine and gives instructions on how to make a hat
either plain with simple shaping that takes an hour to knit and finish (I tested it and made a plain hat with the simple
shaping and completely finished mine in only 50 minutes), or you can do more complicated shaping in 1 color, or you can
make a hat with stripes that look like the Harry Potter Prisoner Of Azkaban and Goblet Of Fire stripes on their scarves.
Also available is a scarf pattern with Potter Azkaban/Goblet like stripes done in Red Heart worsted weight that is
approximately 6 inches wide when folded and about 6.5 feet long before fringing. There are no pictures available of
the scarf yet, but there are pictures of a Gryffindor colored hat with complex shaping, and a 1 color simply shaped hat
knit for the troops in green camo. They are resized for the page view, but follow the instructions on my page for how
to view them full size to see the differences in shaping at the top.
http://www.angelfire.com/space2/swcharts/poahatscarf.html Enjoy! Leah

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View entire thread: National Knitting Week begins tomorrow, Oct 14th.
Posted by Donna McIntosh on Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:01 PM    Post subject: Re: National Knitting Week begins tomorrow, Oct 14th.

"YarnWright" <not4u@this.lifetime> wrote in message news:1c8k23jvn43s7$.dlg@lalaland.com...
[quote:f921ab966a]Just dropping in to announce that National Knitting Week begins tomorrow, October 14. Hugs, Noreen --
I am not young enough to know everything. http://www.lulu.com/content/292418 - - - - - --- avast! AV: Outbound message
clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0641-4, 10/13/2006 Tested: 10/13/2006 3:22:22 PM avast! - (c) 1988-2006
http://www.avast.com I didn't knit yesterday but did buy yarn and another knitting leaflet (like I needed another
one!) Yes, I did! Today will knit some baby items and work on sorting out hats for my[/quote:f921ab966a] DD's
elementary school (there's always some one who loses/doesn't have a hat so thought I'd donate some, along with scarves
and mittens)..and also the hats for the Ships support group..and do some laundry and sew skirt for oldest DD..and maybe
cook dinner...not sure about last item! LOL Donna in S. Indiana

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Posted by cozyhomelife on Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:58 PM    Post subject: Re: National Knitting Week begins tomorrow, Oct 14th.

I don't really have a knitting project going, so I'll just pick out one of my 'wannado' dishcloth patterns I have
hoarded so I can be part of the 'knitting borg' this week. Maybe this black cat one: http://www.rainyk.com/BLACKCAT.doc
-- -Cozy http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=cozy_at_home Happiness doesn't come from having
things, it comes from *having things you can find* :) "YarnWright" <not4u@this.lifetime> wrote in
message news:16ksf9ayabj4n.dlg@lalaland.com... [quote:fcc869ff55]On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:10:44 GMT, cozyhomelife spun a
fine yarn Is there a 'plan' that is used to celebrate this, or do people just try to be extra knitty this week? I'll
have to break out my needles ;) Dunno, Cozy! I *assume* (yah, I know, nod nod nod, "ass" "u"
"me") we are to be more knitterly during this week. From what I understand, it SHOULD be INTERnational
Knitting Week, as it started in the UK! Hugs, Noreen -- I am not young enough to know everything.
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10/13/2006 Tested: 10/14/2006 1:16:14 PM avast! - (c) 1988-2006 http://www.avast.com [/quote:fcc869ff55]

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View entire thread: Looking for Spiderman chart!
Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:42 AM    Post subject: Re: Looking for Spiderman chart!

Hallo Maggs Welcome back .... How is the weather in your desert ? We are in Desert weather just now . mirjam
[quote:3b8ff4e829]Hi! I'm new to this group.....well, kinda maybe! but not really! I was a member a couple of years
ago.....got to busy to keep up.....but I missed all of you!!!! Do you still do the monthly 6 X 6 square swap? Is Aud
still around? She was my partner one month! Any way it's lovely to be back and see all the familiar
names........Wooly, Mirjam (she sent me threads from half way around the world!) Shillelagh (I once asked you how your
name is pronounced, probably one of about 100,00 folks who have done that!) It's nice to be back............Now to tap
into all of the incredible resources here....Can anyone point me in the direction to a Spiderman chart..(kitting)...I
have a 3 year old GS who wants a Spiderman sweater.......I have googled it but not really come up with much! Thanks
for any help! Maggs, madly knitting in the sonoran desert [/quote:3b8ff4e829]

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View entire thread: Looking for Spiderman chart!
Posted by Aud on Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:12 AM    Post subject: Re: Looking for Spiderman chart!

"Maggs" <unraveled@cox.net> skrev i melding news:5qFXg.1267$rS.538@fed1read05... [quote:3740a0106c]Hi!
I'm new to this group.....well, kinda maybe! but not really! I was a member a couple of years ago.....got to busy to
keep up.....but I missed all of you!!!! Do you still do the monthly 6 X 6 square swap? Is Aud still around? She was
my partner one month! Any way it's lovely to be back and see all the familiar names........Wooly, Mirjam (she sent me
threads from half way around the world!) Shillelagh (I once asked you how your name is pronounced, probably one of about
100,00 folks who have done that!) It's nice to be back............Now to tap into all of the incredible resources
here....Can anyone point me in the direction to a Spiderman chart..(kitting)...I have a 3 year old GS who wants a
Spiderman sweater.......I have googled it but not really come up with much! Thanks for any help! Maggs, madly knitting
in the sonoran desert [/quote:3740a0106c] Hi Maggs! I'm still around, but not so much as earlier! Good to see you! Just
now I have my fall-holiday, working with my kitchen walls!LOL! We shall have a full make over after 25years(for us, and
at least 5 years for the former owner) The cupboards are delaied, but I try to have "the room" as ready as
possible :-) The weather has beesn beautiful this week, not easy to work inside! Yesterday we took a day off, and had
a trip on the fiord in our boat, together with MIL. She needs to have some nice days,(sitting too much in her flat
with a hurting hip) we can take her by car or by boat when we are off, and we had a wonderful day together. I'm
S_L_O_W_L_Y_ working on a cardigan. Cannot see the end of it, because there are so many other activities to take care
of...and which i like! I look so forward to finish the kitchen! Sorry I cannot help you with the spiderman! AUD ;-)

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Posted by Eastern Edge on Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:24 AM    Post subject: Re: Looking for Spiderman chart!

Maggs wrote: [quote:c521bf4e3c]Hi! I'm new to this group.....well, kinda maybe! but not really! I was a member a
couple of years ago.....got to busy to keep up.....but I missed all of you!!!! Do you still do the monthly 6 X 6
square swap? Is Aud still around? She was my partner one month! Any way it's lovely to be back and see all the
familiar names........Wooly, Mirjam (she sent me threads from half way around the world!) Shillelagh (I once asked you
how your name is pronounced, probably one of about 100,00 folks who have done that!) It's nice to be
back............Now to tap into all of the incredible resources here....Can anyone point me in the direction to a
Spiderman chart..(kitting)...I have a 3 year old GS who wants a Spiderman sweater.......I have googled it but not really
come up with much! Thanks for any help! Maggs, madly knitting in the sonoran desert [/quote:c521bf4e3c] Hi Maggs I,
too, have a spiderman-mad boy here. I don't have any patterns, though, but I did find one online (since it's
copyrighted 'thing' I would guess that any Spiderman pattern will need to be purchased).
http://www.kidsera.com/links/0371.htm This one says 'sold' but perhaps it might help you find it on ebay. What you
could do (involving lots of work!) would be to find the image you want to use (off a book, online, poster, whatever) and
then work a grid over it (if you want your image to cover 50 stitches, use a grid sized so that 50 blocks fit across
it), and use a non-square grid, since knitting stitches aren't of the same width and height. Our Katherine (who posts
rarely now since she's so busy) knit my DS a pair of spiderman socks; red socks, blue toes, heels and cuff, and did
black webbing throughout; perhaps just a spiderweb or spider in the red/blue/black combination would suit for your GS.
Photos of her great socks are here: http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/quilt_craft_mom/album?.dir=2a08re2&.src=ph The
6x6 exchange has been moved to the Yahoo group called Yarners. Michelle

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Posted by Maggs on Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:24 AM    Post subject: Looking for Spiderman chart!

Hi! I'm new to this group.....well, kinda maybe! but not really! I was a member a couple of years ago.....got to
busy to keep up.....but I missed all of you!!!! Do you still do the monthly 6 X 6 square swap? Is Aud still
around? She was my partner one month! Any way it's lovely to be back and see all the familiar names........Wooly,
Mirjam (she sent me threads from half way around the world!) Shillelagh (I once asked you how your name is pronounced,
probably one of about 100,00 folks who have done that!) It's nice to be back............Now to tap into all of the
incredible resources here....Can anyone point me in the direction to a Spiderman chart..(kitting)...I have a 3 year old
GS who wants a Spiderman sweater.......I have googled it but not really come up with much! Thanks for any help!
Maggs, madly knitting in the sonoran desert

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View entire thread: Difference between Yarn Over and Yarn Forward
Posted by DA on Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:25 PM    Post subject: Re: Difference between Yarn Over and Yarn Forward

You are very welcome. This is the one technique in knitting that was the most difficult for me to grasp. None of the
instructions that I read made any sense to me until I found YRN (yarn around needle) in a British pattern. DA
"willi" <lywillows@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161092856.931097.302560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:b2ddae7c42]Internet has been down (moving)...just
saw your reply...thanks so much for your well written response...it appeals to my logical side... ;o)
[/quote:b2ddae7c42]

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View entire thread: Wood: Yew do it?
Posted by Anonymous on Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:24 AM    Post subject: Re: Wood: Yew do it?

agres@sbcglobal.net wrote: [quote:d38bd5c659]Maybe? But, bamboo *does* do it!. It turns out that commercial bamboo
needles in sizes ~ US #4 - #6 do have a spring constant that is suitable for use with a knitting sheath or pouch. This
opens up a world of fast and easy knitting for those of you that like looser fabrics. With # 4 *aluminum* needles, I
knit faster continental style than using a sheath. With the # 4 *bamboo* needles, knitting with a sheath is much
faster, than any other knitting method using any #4 needles that I have tried. ( I do not do ROSEWOOD! Test them
yourself!!) Knitting with such needles (and knitting sheath) has similar physics to knitting with #1 steel needles and
a sheath. However, the stitch size is larger, therefore needle tip travel is greater, and resulting knitting speed in
stitches per minute is less that with the smaller steel needles. However, fabric production in area per minute is
greater due the larger size of each stitch. (New "Clover" bamboo needles should be polished with
"real" fine steel wool and waxed before use for extra speed.) No data yet on the durability of bamboo needles
when used with a sheath. Trials were conducted with 8.5 " DPN so there are not the safety concerns as with very
long steel gansey needles. In addition, these days I am using 7.5" or 5.5" US # 1 steel DPN with knitting
sheath for socks and cuffs. I really have tried a lot of ways to knit socks, and short needles with a sheath is the
best that I have found. Lopi & # 4's for ski socks and house slippers, #1's & worsted for heavy socks, # 0's
& etc. Knitting sheaths are letting me produce better socks, faster. Aaron [/quote:d38bd5c659] Great to hear from
you Aaron. Nice to hear about the new needles. I will have to try them. Dennis

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Posted by Anonymous on Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:16 PM    Post subject: Re: Wood: Yew do it?

see for example http://gansey.blogspot.com/2006/07/knitting-sheaths.html "nancych"
<nchambret@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1160665432.442768.49450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
[quote:6d16f321cb]What is a knitting sheath? Pardom my ignorance, but I never heard of that. Nancy agres@sbcglobal.net
wrote: Maybe? But, bamboo *does* do it!. It turns out that commercial bamboo needles in sizes ~ US #4 - #6 do have a
spring constant that is suitable for use with a knitting sheath or pouch. This opens up a world of fast and easy
knitting for those of you that like looser fabrics. With # 4 *aluminum* needles, I knit faster continental style than
using a sheath. With the # 4 *bamboo* needles, knitting with a sheath is much faster, than any other knitting method
using any #4 needles that I have tried. ( I do not do ROSEWOOD! Test them yourself!!) Knitting with such needles (and
knitting sheath) has similar physics to knitting with #1 steel needles and a sheath. However, the stitch size is larger,
therefore needle tip travel is greater, and resulting knitting speed in stitches per minute is less that with the
smaller steel needles. However, fabric production in area per minute is greater due the larger size of each stitch.
(New "Clover" bamboo needles should be polished with "real" fine steel wool and waxed before use for
extra speed.) No data yet on the durability of bamboo needles when used with a sheath. Trials were conducted with 8.5
" DPN so there are not the safety concerns as with very long steel gansey needles. In addition, these days I am
using 7.5" or 5.5" US # 1 steel DPN with knitting sheath for socks and cuffs. I really have tried a lot of
ways to knit socks, and short needles with a sheath is the best that I have found. Lopi & # 4's for ski socks and
house slippers, #1's & worsted for heavy socks, # 0's & etc. Knitting sheaths are letting me produce better
socks, faster. Aaron [/quote:6d16f321cb]

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Posted by YarnWright on Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:26 PM    Post subject: Re: Wood: Yew do it?

On 12 Oct 2006 08:03:52 -0700, nancych spun a fine yarn [quote:4b3c124edf]What is a knitting sheath? Pardom my
ignorance, but I never heard of that. Nancy agres@sbcglobal.net wrote: [/quote:4b3c124edf] Hi, Nancy! No such thing as
ingnorance in this case ;) you're instead, unenlightened to Aaron's much written about knitting sheaths, is all. Since
he's the resident 'expert' on the subject, I'll let him answer. In the meantime, a ask.com search or a wikipedia search
will bring up loads of good information as well. HTH, Noreen -- I am not young enough to know everything.
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Posted by nancych on Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:03 PM    Post subject: Re: Wood: Yew do it?

What is a knitting sheath? Pardom my ignorance, but I never heard of that. Nancy agres@sbcglobal.net wrote:
[quote:db93f0f278]Maybe? But, bamboo *does* do it!. It turns out that commercial bamboo needles in sizes ~ US #4 - #6
do have a spring constant that is suitable for use with a knitting sheath or pouch. This opens up a world of fast and
easy knitting for those of you that like looser fabrics. With # 4 *aluminum* needles, I knit faster continental style
than using a sheath. With the # 4 *bamboo* needles, knitting with a sheath is much faster, than any other knitting
method using any #4 needles that I have tried. ( I do not do ROSEWOOD! Test them yourself!!) Knitting with such
needles (and knitting sheath) has similar physics to knitting with #1 steel needles and a sheath. However, the stitch
size is larger, therefore needle tip travel is greater, and resulting knitting speed in stitches per minute is less that
with the smaller steel needles. However, fabric production in area per minute is greater due the larger size of each
stitch. (New "Clover" bamboo needles should be polished with "real" fine steel wool and waxed
before use for extra speed.) No data yet on the durability of bamboo needles when used with a sheath. Trials were
conducted with 8.5 " DPN so there are not the safety concerns as with very long steel gansey needles. In addition,
these days I am using 7.5" or 5.5" US # 1 steel DPN with knitting sheath for socks and cuffs. I really have
tried a lot of ways to knit socks, and short needles with a sheath is the best that I have found. Lopi & # 4's for
ski socks and house slippers, #1's & worsted for heavy socks, # 0's & etc. Knitting sheaths are letting me
produce better socks, faster. Aaron[/quote:db93f0f278]

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Posted by Anonymous on Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:36 PM    Post subject: Wood: Yew do it?

Maybe? But, bamboo *does* do it!. It turns out that commercial bamboo needles in sizes ~ US #4 - #6 do have a spring
constant that is suitable for use with a knitting sheath or pouch. This opens up a world of fast and easy knitting for
those of you that like looser fabrics. With # 4 *aluminum* needles, I knit faster continental style than using a sheath.
With the # 4 *bamboo* needles, knitting with a sheath is much faster, than any other knitting method using any #4
needles that I have tried. ( I do not do ROSEWOOD! Test them yourself!!) Knitting with such needles (and knitting
sheath) has similar physics to knitting with #1 steel needles and a sheath. However, the stitch size is larger,
therefore needle tip travel is greater, and resulting knitting speed in stitches per minute is less that with the
smaller steel needles. However, fabric production in area per minute is greater due the larger size of each stitch.
(New "Clover" bamboo needles should be polished with "real" fine steel wool and waxed before use for
extra speed.) No data yet on the durability of bamboo needles when used with a sheath. Trials were conducted with 8.5
" DPN so there are not the safety concerns as with very long steel gansey needles. In addition, these days I am
using 7.5" or 5.5" US # 1 steel DPN with knitting sheath for socks and cuffs. I really have tried a lot of
ways to knit socks, and short needles with a sheath is the best that I have found. Lopi & # 4's for ski socks and
house slippers, #1's & worsted for heavy socks, # 0's & etc. Knitting sheaths are letting me produce better
socks, faster. Aaron

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View entire thread: Teaching Knitting or Crochet to Children
Posted by Richard Eney on Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:32 AM    Post subject: Re: Teaching Knitting or Crochet to Children

In article <1160519292.165227.221640@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Padishar Creel <cafanning@comcast.net>
wrote: [quote:f773f6b46f]I am working in a school for behavior disordered children and I would love to teach them either
knitting or crocheting or ? These children have attention disorders along with some serious psychological issues.
However, they are very interested in watching me crochet/knit and I have been asked many times to teach them. I would
appreciate any suggestions on how to approach this with them. Do I use a DVD instruction program or what? Is it easier
to learn crocheting or knitting? I learned crocheting first and it seems a whole lot easier to me, but that is my
experience. Any of you have experience teaching children in a group of say 5 kids or so? Any suggestions on books,
video, class structure, size of needles, yarn, patterns or whatever would be greatly appreciated. [/quote:f773f6b46f] I
have no experience, but... crochet is easiest, because there's only one stitch to drop, one tool to handle, and you get
results really fast. Also, almost anything you do qualifies as some kind of crochet, so it's really hard to do it
"wrong"! One traditional teaching thing is to make the two needles of different colors or at least different
color tips. Some people find that helps them keep track of which needle they were using to knit with. (I'm not sure
that's such a good thing, because if they depend on the needle color they might not learn to look at where the yarn end
is coming from.) A good DVD might be helpful because it could be repeated frequently, but you can't ask a DVD
questions. With only about 5 kids, of high school age, I think a good first project might be fingerless mitts. They're
fast in either knit or crochet, and the most basic are just a tube with a hole for the thumb. Increasing a little for
the base of the thumb is good but not necessary. They can be as fancy or as simple as anyone likes, decoration can be
added later, the length can be according to patience or amount of yarn - short for the ones who are bored, long for the
ones who get into it - either way it's a finished project. They can be done in the flat, too - just sew them together
afterward. If they only get one done, that's okay too. And they can be made with single skeins. Another option would
be the headbands that cover the ears - not a complete hat, but it does use some increases and decreases, and it's
another one-skein project. Of course, the ideal would be to bring in the available materials in various colors and let
them choose. I'd bring in worsted weight, some wool blends and some better-quality acrylic (some kids have
allergies), but no cotton (frustratingly non-stretchy), no microfiber (too splitty), and no boucles or other tricky
textures. =Tamar

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Posted by Leah on Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:18 PM    Post subject: Re: Teaching Knitting or Crochet to Children

Hi Padishar, [quote:8f0b7c1dee]I am working in a school for behavior disordered children and I would love to teach
them either knitting or crocheting or ? These children have attention disorders along with some serious psychological
issues. However, they are very interested in watching me crochet/knit and I have been asked many times to teach them.
[/quote:8f0b7c1dee] I learned to crochet first, and I still feel working 1 hook compared to 2 or more needles easier.
But, if you use knitting looms, you can show 1-2 kids how to use them at a time, while the others watch and learn, and
then they can have their turn. I agree with smaller projects to keep their interest and give the satisfaction of
finishing an item in a short amount of time. Scarves may be simple to make, but they can be quite time consuming! I
don't know what advice to give about DVD versus books or diagrams off the net, but if you go with diagrams off the net,
the Craft Yarn Council has a learn how section with diagrams you can print off, which is helpful if you need schematics
to teach left-handed crafters. http://www.craftyarncouncil.com/ The only other thing I can offer is to make sure that
you give them all a light colored yarn to start with. Dark colors are more "hip", but I think all beginners
need light colored yarn so they can see what they're doing, and when people I teach protest the color choice, I explain
it's to make it easier for them to learn, and they can switch to darker yarns once they know where the hooks or needles
go. Also, it would be wise to avoid all fancy yarns, i.e. no eyelash, slubbed, or nubbed yarns. I'd even avoid Lion
Brand Homespun because of its texture, again for the same reason, it's harder to see where a hook or needle will go.
If you were really ambitious about the project, you could teach them how to make their own knitting needles out of
hardwood dowel rods, inexpensive to get from the hardware store. Other items needed are: Hacksaw, sandpaper in varying
grits, say 60, 100, and 150 grits, small bottle of linseed oil, shop towels, and a piece of 100% paraffin wax candle
that is white and unscented, as oils and dyes used to scent and color candles can stain your yarn. Also helpful is a
hand crank pencil sharpener, found in most classrooms. Measure out the length of the needles on the dowel and mark a
pencil line all the way around. Saw with the hacksaw by going partway through on one side, then turning and repeating
for a more even cut. Once the needle blanks are cut, stick them in the pencil sharpener and grind them down to almost
pencil points, but leave them still a little square on the tip. Get the roughest sandpaper and finish shaping the tip
and sand the rest of the needle with rougher to finer sandpaper until it's as smooth as you want it. When both needles
are done this way, blow off any sawdust, then take a SMALL amount of linseed oil on a shop towel and rub the length of
the needle. Let the needles sit overnight, so they absorb the linseed oil. Wipe them again the next day if they are
still a little damp from overuse of oil. The oil polishes them, bringing out the color of the hardwood and also helps
smooth the wood. My red oak hooks and needles took on a much more reddish sheen after applying oil. My last step
before knitting was to take the candle and rub it on the tip of the needle and partly down the shaft so the yarn won't
catch on any leftover rough spots, and I had a pair of knitting needles in about an hour total time, not counting
letting them soak in the oil overnight. It could make learning to knit more fun for them if they made their own
needles, and it won't cost you an arm and a leg to outfit each of them with a set of needles. I used a 1/4 inch dowel
and got about a size 10.5 needle according to my needle sizer. Crochet hooks are much harder to hand carve, so I
wouldn't recommend trying to teach the kids to make their own hooks if you decide to teach them to crochet. Susan Bates
Luxite hooks are really cheap, but catch on the yarn. You'll probably need an emery board (nail file) for them. There
are mold marks near the tips that catch the yarn, so use the orange side of the emery board to smooth those down first,
then the fine white side of the emery to finish smoothing. Leah

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Posted by YarnWright on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:55 PM    Post subject: Re: Teaching Knitting or Crochet to Children

On 10 Oct 2006 15:28:12 -0700, Padishar Creel spun a fine yarn [quote:f65ebd7e11]I am working in a school for behavior
disordered children and I would love to teach them either knitting or crocheting or ? These children have attention
disorders along with some serious psychological issues. However, they are very interested in watching me crochet/knit
and I have been asked many times to teach them. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to approach this with them.
Do I use a DVD instruction program or what? Is it easier to learn crocheting or knitting? I learned crocheting first
and it seems a whole lot easier to me, but that is my experience. Any of you have experience teaching children in a
group of say 5 kids or so? Any suggestions on books, video, class structure, size of needles, yarn, patterns or
whatever would be greatly appreciated. Padishar Creel IMEx, knitting was first, then crocheting,
grin.[/quote:f65ebd7e11] I have taught 15 girls and boys at a time, BUT they were not special needs/special ed kids, so
can't really help you there. I use an overhead projector, posters and slides, along with personal interaction with each
student. Good luck and bless you for working with these very special kids! HTH, Noreen -- I am not young enough to
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Posted by enigma on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:28 PM    Post subject: Re: Teaching Knitting or Crochet to Children

"Padishar Creel" <cafanning@comcast.net> wrote in
news:1160519292.165227.221640@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quote:742f6a5d1a]I am working in a school for behavior
disordered children and I would love to teach them either knitting or crocheting or ? These children have attention
disorders along with some serious psychological issues. However, they are very interested in watching me crochet/knit
and I have been asked many times to teach them. [/quote:742f6a5d1a] how old are they & do they have any other
disabilities besides behavioral/attention? my son is 6 & he's made hats on the Knifty Knitter frames for a year
now. they're really good for working on fine motor skills. he wants to learn knitting on needles now, but his
coordination isn't quite up to that yet. [quote:742f6a5d1a]I would appreciate any suggestions on how to approach this
with them. Do I use a DVD instruction program or what? Is it easier to learn crocheting or knitting? I learned
crocheting first and it seems a whole lot easier to me, but that is my experience. [/quote:742f6a5d1a] well, are they
visual learners? if so, a DVD might work, but one on one would probably work better. i'd go with crochet first, too.
you can start with finger crochet, then go to using a hook. (i learned to knit first & my crochet abilities aren't
so hot. i make cat toys) [quote:742f6a5d1a]Any of you have experience teaching children in a group of say 5 kids or
so? Any suggestions on books, video, class structure, size of needles, yarn, patterns or whatever would be greatly
appreciated. [/quote:742f6a5d1a] i'd suggest starting with something faster to finish than a scarf, like a hat or a
potholder. scarves take *way* too long to get to the FO gratification stage, especially for kids. i'd go for medium
needles (everyone suggests kids start with US 15 or 17 needles, but they're too fat for little hands to hold
comfortably) & a soft, washable yarn. big help, huh? lee -- Question with boldness even the existence of god;
because if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by Padishar Creel on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:28 PM    Post subject: Teaching Knitting or Crochet to Children

I am working in a school for behavior disordered children and I would love to teach them either knitting or crocheting
or ? These children have attention disorders along with some serious psychological issues. However, they are very
interested in watching me crochet/knit and I have been asked many times to teach them. I would appreciate any
suggestions on how to approach this with them. Do I use a DVD instruction program or what? Is it easier to learn
crocheting or knitting? I learned crocheting first and it seems a whole lot easier to me, but that is my experience.
Any of you have experience teaching children in a group of say 5 kids or so? Any suggestions on books, video, class
structure, size of needles, yarn, patterns or whatever would be greatly appreciated. Padishar Creel

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View entire thread: Felting Question
Posted by enigma on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:57 PM    Post subject: Re: Felting Question

"Bob & Carol" <bncnewman@cox.net> wrote in news:PzVWg.6672$eZ4.407@dukeread06:
[quote:2dd1908805]Well I made the felted purse in Knitty -- purple and green. I used the actual yarn in the pattern and
after felting I have a bag about the size of a lunch bag, no where near the 8" x 4" in the pattern.
[/quote:2dd1908805] what size is a lunch bag? is your bag larger or smaller than you expected?
[quote:2dd1908805]What would have caused this? I know that I knit tighter than the average person...could this have
made such a big difference? [/quote:2dd1908805] looser knitting tends to felt better, yes, but size is mostly
determined by how long you agitate the item in hot water. you *really* have to watch the item you're felting,
especially if you haven't felted that particular yarn in that particular machine before. you can't set a timer &
check back later. agitate for a minute. stop the machine & check the item. repeat until the item is the size you
want. you may have some trouble getting something to shrink enough if you knit too tightly or on too small needles,
but it will still full to some extent if the yarn is one that felts. it is sometimes possible to block out something
that over shrunk while felting, if it's not too far off, but it doesn't look as good. lee -- Question with boldness
even the existence of god; because if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

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View entire thread: Hoods with fluffy yarn
Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:35 AM    Post subject: Re: Hoods with fluffy yarn

I have been thinking about Hoods , as they are useful and back into fashion. i wonder if a twisted cloth would sit
better ,, i have to try it out though ,,,,,, mirjam [quote:e5c1ba13cc] X-no-archive: yes Linda
D.muffymom56@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:p9tni2dcij7eavtm2qdljain5ocoh1s56u@4ax.com... Good Afternoon... Last
week Mom and I were in Michael's and I saw a yarn that really took my eye. Unfortunately, I didn't think to write down
the name of the yarn, but it was fluffy like Funny, but softer, and it had slubs through it as well. I thought it would
be great to knit up as a Hood/cowl like this one: http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/60121A.html?noImages= Do you
think I would cast on the same number of stitches as it shows for the Lion Brand version? Somehow I remember one of the
yarn shop owners saying she knit one of the out of Funny and cast on 90 sts, then just kept knitting round and round
until she had the length she liked. Sound good? take care, Linda in B.C., Canada Hi Linda, I made the old pattern a
couple of years ago with a soft slubby yarn. I just checked the pattern for the recommended gauge and substituted
something appropriate. As Cozy said, it tends to slip back from one's face a bit but it's wonderful around the neck!
Also, in very cold weather, I've found it tucks nicely under a hooded jacket and keeps me toasty warm. There is another
pattern in a twisted rib which might stay in position a bit better: http://knitty.com/ISSUEwinter04/PATTaibhlinn.html
Eimear [/quote:e5c1ba13cc]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:43 PM    Post subject: Re: Hoods with fluffy yarn

[quote:5d228a67bd]Linda D.muffymom56@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:p9tni2dcij7eavtm2qdljain5ocoh1s56u@4ax.com...
Good Afternoon... Last week Mom and I were in Michael's and I saw a yarn that really took my eye. Unfortunately, I
didn't think to write down the name of the yarn, but it was fluffy like Funny, but softer, and it had slubs through it
as well. I thought it would be great to knit up as a Hood/cowl like this one:
http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/60121A.html?noImages= Do you think I would cast on the same number of stitches as
it shows for the Lion Brand version? Somehow I remember one of the yarn shop owners saying she knit one of the out of
Funny and cast on 90 sts, then just kept knitting round and round until she had the length she liked. Sound good? take
care, Linda in B.C., Canada [/quote:5d228a67bd] On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:31:59 GMT, "ejk"
<ejkeane@hotmail.com> wrote: [quote:5d228a67bd]Hi Linda, I made the old pattern a couple of years ago with a soft
slubby yarn. I just checked the pattern for the recommended gauge and substituted something appropriate. As Cozy said,
it tends to slip back from one's face a bit but it's wonderful around the neck! Also, in very cold weather, I've found
it tucks nicely under a hooded jacket and keeps me toasty warm. There is another pattern in a twisted rib which might
stay in position a bit better: http://knitty.com/ISSUEwinter04/PATTaibhlinn.html Eimear [/quote:5d228a67bd] Hi Eimear,
Thanks for the link. I'm going to have to sneak out to Michael's and buy the yarn, then I'll work from there. It's
gorgeous yarn, so I will have to post what it is. It took my eye the moment I saw it. thanks...Linda

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Posted by ejk on Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:31 AM    Post subject: Re: Hoods with fluffy yarn

X-no-archive: yes <Linda D.muffymom56@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9tni2dcij7eavtm2qdljain5ocoh1s56u@4ax.com... [quote:3e1495ed22]Good Afternoon... Last week Mom and I were in
Michael's and I saw a yarn that really took my eye. Unfortunately, I didn't think to write down the name of the yarn,
but it was fluffy like Funny, but softer, and it had slubs through it as well. I thought it would be great to knit up
as a Hood/cowl like this one: http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/60121A.html?noImages= Do you think I would cast on
the same number of stitches as it shows for the Lion Brand version? Somehow I remember one of the yarn shop owners
saying she knit one of the out of Funny and cast on 90 sts, then just kept knitting round and round until she had the
length she liked. Sound good? take care, Linda in B.C., Canada [/quote:3e1495ed22] Hi Linda, I made the old pattern
a couple of years ago with a soft slubby yarn. I just checked the pattern for the recommended gauge and substituted
something appropriate. As Cozy said, it tends to slip back from one's face a bit but it's wonderful around the neck!
Also, in very cold weather, I've found it tucks nicely under a hooded jacket and keeps me toasty warm. There is
another pattern in a twisted rib which might stay in position a bit better:
http://knitty.com/ISSUEwinter04/PATTaibhlinn.html Eimear

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Posted by cozyhomelife on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:23 PM    Post subject: Re: Hoods with fluffy yarn

It looks just like the pattern they had using some other yarn, which I made in Jiffy. Jiffy is a fuzzy yarn..... just
looked at my bookmark and it now says they used Jiffy, weird. I made it in pastel variegated, which has like a soft
purple, yellow, pink. Sounds awful, but it looks good on my soft yellow sweater, and the other 2 colors, which I have
a lot of. The pattern is kind of like tubes, and they tend to want to work back together like a slinky. So, it is
not wonderful at keeping your head warm. When you get it pulled up, it wants to back off. If you don't make it long
enough, it will stop at the place your hairline stops in back, if you do make it long enough, you will have a very
spiral-ly neck. All in all, I kind of like it, but it has it problems. I even like to just wear it like a big cowl
neck, because my neck/chest gets cold easily, and it's nice to be able to pull it up for a little head protection since
it's already there. But I can't say that the Jiffy is really a warm covering, even though you would have thought so.
Doesn't sound like I'm helping that much :( old pattern: http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/kjif-hood.html?noImages=0
-- -Cozy http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=cozy_at_home My crochet forum:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/crochetplus/start Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes from *having things
you can find* :) <Linda D.muffymom56@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:p9tni2dcij7eavtm2qdljain5ocoh1s56u@4ax.com... [quote:f6c1f83cc7]Good Afternoon... Last week Mom and I were in
Michael's and I saw a yarn that really took my eye. Unfortunately, I didn't think to write down the name of the yarn,
but it was fluffy like Funny, but softer, and it had slubs through it as well. I thought it would be great to knit up
as a Hood/cowl like this one: http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/60121A.html?noImages= Do you think I would cast on
the same number of stitches as it shows for the Lion Brand version? Somehow I remember one of the yarn shop owners
saying she knit one of the out of Funny and cast on 90 sts, then just kept knitting round and round until she had the
length she liked. Sound good? take care, Linda in B.C., Canada[/quote:f6c1f83cc7]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:36 PM    Post subject: Hoods with fluffy yarn

Good Afternoon... Last week Mom and I were in Michael's and I saw a yarn that really took my eye. Unfortunately, I
didn't think to write down the name of the yarn, but it was fluffy like Funny, but softer, and it had slubs through it
as well. I thought it would be great to knit up as a Hood/cowl like this one:
http://cache.lionbrand.com/patterns/60121A.html?noImages= Do you think I would cast on the same number of stitches as
it shows for the Lion Brand version? Somehow I remember one of the yarn shop owners saying she knit one of the out of
Funny and cast on 90 sts, then just kept knitting round and round until she had the length she liked. Sound good? take
care, Linda in B.C., Canada

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Posted by karlisa on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:54 PM    Post subject: Re: new here and have hat question

enigma wrote: [quote:03dc3d36de]"karlisa" <micksmom2@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1160399598.700935.239180@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: I am making a hat for my son--very simple little pumpkin hat
on double pointed needles for his Halloween costume. I made one for my younger son, but the directions I have are only
for a small child. I cannot find one for an adult size head. My oldest son is 4 years old and has a rather large head
(21"). I'm making the hat out of an orange bulky-weight yarn on 10 1/2 needles and getting a gauge of 4 stitches
per inch. My question: Is there a rule-of-thumb for how big to make a hat based on the stretch factor? In other
words, I don't think I would necessarily want to make his hat 21" but a bit smaller to allow for the stretch. If
this is correct, is there a general rule-of-thumb for this or a percentage of stretch I should allow for? I realize
that K2, P2 ribbing is much stretchier than stocking stitch. The hat I'm making is just a roll brim in stocking stitch,
though. How does one go about factoring in the stretch when planning a pattern? I would love to make more of these hats
and not feel tethered to a set of instructions every time. I hope I've worded this properly. Any assistance would be
greatly appreciated! i would make it 21". you don't want a 'stretch factor' in a stockinette hat, because it will
be too tight if you knit it less than head size. actually, if i was knitting a stockinette hat for a 4 year old, i might
just add another half inch so he doesn't outgrow it in a couple months (unless he's only going to wear it once on
Halloween). if you were knitting a ribbed hat, then you could knit it a half inch less than head size, but still, on a
kid's hat, it's better to make it a tiny bit big than a tiny bit small. most people dislike tight hats & kids are a
lot less polite about it than adults ;) and really a 21" head on a 4 year old doesn't seem out of the ordinary to
me. i think my 6 year old's head is close to 22" now if i measure over his ears for a hat. My son has always had a
very large head and he never even got to wear[/quote:03dc3d36de] the sweater I knit for him last winter because the
blooming thing wouldn't fit over his head! So rather than rip out the jewel neckline (my first mistake choosing a
pattern with a jewel neckline), I abandoned the project and it now sits in my sewing room waiting to be assembled. I'm
going to assemble it and give it to my younger son instead. Thanks for your input, Lee. I think I'll try to make the
hat slightly smaller (maybe 1/2"), and go from there. Since the hat is screaming orange with a green stem and
leaves, I don't think he'll wear it again after Halloween. :-) If it doesn't fit, I'll just put it with my charity
caps to donate. lisa [quote:03dc3d36de]lee -- Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson[/quote:03dc3d36de]

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Posted by karlisa on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:48 PM    Post subject: Re: new here and have hat question

Wooly wrote: [quote:56aaa81df6]On 9 Oct 2006 06:13:18 -0700, "karlisa" <micksmom2@yahoo.com> spewed
forth : How does one go about factoring in the stretch when planning a [hat] pattern? Desired circumference minus 10%
is a good place to start but it's a number that will vary with the fiber, the knitting method, the stitch used. Caps
made with less-elastic yarns will probably need to be knitted on 100% of stitches, caps with ribbing should be started
on C-10% or have the ribbing knitted tightly on smaller needles than the main cap is made on. Stranded knitting is less
elastic than one-color stockinette, different ribbing (1x1, 2x2, 3x2, etc etc) all vary in their elasticity. Some
pattern stitches are very stretchy horizontally, others actually take up and have no elasticity at all. This is handy
information for me. Thanks! Although I knew that fiber[/quote:56aaa81df6] content could effect how stretchy the final
fabric turned out, I didn't know that stranded knitting was less elastic. I do try to learn as much as possible so I
can spend less time ripping out my work! I appreciate your help. lisa

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Posted by karlisa on Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:42 PM    Post subject: Re: new here and have hat question

Leah wrote: [quote:b9fc107bca]Hi Karlisa, I am making a hat for my son--very simple little pumpkin hat on double
pointed needles for his Halloween costume. I made one for my younger son, but the directions I have are only for a
small child. I cannot find one for an adult size head. My oldest son is 4 years old and has a rather large head
(21"). I'm making the hat out of an orange bulky-weight yarn on 10 1/2 needles and getting a gauge of 4 stitches
per inch. My question: Is there a rule-of-thumb for how big to make a hat based on the stretch factor? In other
words, I don't think I would necessarily want to make his hat 21" but a bit smaller to allow for the stretch. If
this is correct, is there a general rule-of-thumb for this or a percentage of stretch I should allow for? I realize
that K2, P2 ribbing is much stretchier than stocking stitch. The hat I'm making is just a roll brim in stocking stitch,
though. How does one go about factoring in the stretch when planning a pattern? I would love to make more of these
hats and not feel tethered to a set of instructions every time. I hope I've worded this properly. Any assistance would
be greatly appreciated! I have a machine knit pattern for a roll brim hat that is made in worsted weight with a gauge
of 4 stitches per inch and sized for a child age 3-6, child age 7-10, and adult. It's a stocking stitch pattern,
because that's what this KM produces, and you cast on 70 stitches for the child 3-6, 78 stitches for the child 7-10, and
86 stitches for the adult size. That means the adult roll brim hat is about 21.5 inches around, just a little larger
than you said your son's head is, while the child 7-10 should be only about 19.5 inches around, and the smallest child's
only 17.5 inches. Also, the knitting machine's basic book has instructions for their doubled earwarmer, and the child
3-6 calls for 58 sts, child 7-10 is 66 sts, and adult is 76 sts cast on. So, the pattern seems to be add about 8 sts/2
inches for each size increase when working with worsted weight at a gauge of 4 sts per inch with no ribbing involved.
If it were me, I'd probably go with the older child's (7-10) size and knit a good sized swatch in scrap yarn and try it
out on his head for fit and comfort before committing to the entire project. HTH! Leah [/quote:b9fc107bca] Thanks,
Leah! It's always been difficult fitting my son for hats, especially when he was a little baby (head always measured in
the 90th percentile) and getting his head through openings in shirts and sweaters that don't have button plackets is a
challenge still. I'll experiment and see what the child 7-10 measurement produces. If it doesn't fit, I'll just add it
to my growing charity hats collection. Fortunately, this hat knits up fairly quickly! lisa

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Posted by Leah on Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:56 PM    Post subject: Re: new here and have hat question

Hi Karlisa, [quote:23acd64fc5]I am making a hat for my son--very simple little pumpkin hat on double pointed needles
for his Halloween costume. I made one for my younger son, but the directions I have are only for a small child. I
cannot find one for an adult size head. My oldest son is 4 years old and has a rather large head (21"). I'm
making the hat out of an orange bulky-weight yarn on 10 1/2 needles and getting a gauge of 4 stitches per inch. My
question: Is there a rule-of-thumb for how big to make a hat based on the stretch factor? In other words, I don't
think I would necessarily want to make his hat 21" but a bit smaller to allow for the stretch. If this is correct,
is there a general rule-of-thumb for this or a percentage of stretch I should allow for? I realize that K2, P2 ribbing
is much stretchier than stocking stitch. The hat I'm making is just a roll brim in stocking stitch, though. How does
one go about factoring in the stretch when planning a pattern? I would love to make more of these hats and not feel
tethered to a set of instructions every time. I hope I've worded this properly. Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated! [/quote:23acd64fc5] I have a machine knit pattern for a roll brim hat that is made in worsted weight with a
gauge of 4 stitches per inch and sized for a child age 3-6, child age 7-10, and adult. It's a stocking stitch pattern,
because that's what this KM produces, and you cast on 70 stitches for the child 3-6, 78 stitches for the child 7-10, and
86 stitches for the adult size. That means the adult roll brim hat is about 21.5 inches around, just a little larger
than you said your son's head is, while the child 7-10 should be only about 19.5 inches around, and the smallest child's
only 17.5 inches. Also, the knitting machine's basic book has instructions for their doubled earwarmer, and the child
3-6 calls for 58 sts, child 7-10 is 66 sts, and adult is 76 sts cast on. So, the pattern seems to be add about 8
sts/2 inches for each size increase when working with worsted weight at a gauge of 4 sts per inch with no ribbing
involved. If it were me, I'd probably go with the older child's (7-10) size and knit a good sized swatch in scrap yarn
and try it out on his head for fit and comfort before committing to the entire project. HTH! Leah

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Posted by Wooly on Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:52 PM    Post subject: Re: new here and have hat question

On 9 Oct 2006 06:13:18 -0700, "karlisa" <micksmom2@yahoo.com> spewed forth : [quote:f754d761fd]How does
one go about factoring in the stretch when planning a [hat] pattern? [/quote:f754d761fd] Desired circumference minus 10%
is a good place to start but it's a number that will vary with the fiber, the knitting method, the stitch used. Caps
made with less-elastic yarns will probably need to be knitted on 100% of stitches, caps with ribbing should be started
on C-10% or have the ribbing knitted tightly on smaller needles than the main cap is made on. Stranded knitting is less
elastic than one-color stockinette, different ribbing (1x1, 2x2, 3x2, etc etc) all vary in their elasticity. Some
pattern stitches are very stretchy horizontally, others actually take up and have no elasticity at all. Caps are good
vehicles for learning how different fibers and stitches behave. They don't use much yarn, they're handy gauge swatches
for larger projects, and they're portable. +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to
USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email
account...

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Posted by enigma on Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:13 PM    Post subject: Re: new here and have hat question

"karlisa" <micksmom2@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1160399598.700935.239180@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
[quote:8fef14f1f0]I am making a hat for my son--very simple little pumpkin hat on double pointed needles for his
Halloween costume. I made one for my younger son, but the directions I have are only for a small child. I cannot find
one for an adult size head. My oldest son is 4 years old and has a rather large head (21"). I'm making the hat
out of an orange bulky-weight yarn on 10 1/2 needles and getting a gauge of 4 stitches per inch. My question: Is
there a rule-of-thumb for how big to make a hat based on the stretch factor? In other words, I don't think I would
necessarily want to make his hat 21" but a bit smaller to allow for the stretch. If this is correct, is there a
general rule-of-thumb for this or a percentage of stretch I should allow for? I realize that K2, P2 ribbing is much
stretchier than stocking stitch. The hat I'm making is just a roll brim in stocking stitch, though. How does one go
about factoring in the stretch when planning a pattern? I would love to make more of these hats and not feel tethered to
a set of instructions every time. I hope I've worded this properly. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
[/quote:8fef14f1f0] i would make it 21". you don't want a 'stretch factor' in a stockinette hat, because it will
be too tight if you knit it less than head size. actually, if i was knitting a stockinette hat for a 4 year old, i
might just add another half inch so he doesn't outgrow it in a couple months (unless he's only going to wear it once
on Halloween). if you were knitting a ribbed hat, then you could knit it a half inch less than head size, but still,
on a kid's hat, it's better to make it a tiny bit big than a tiny bit small. most people dislike tight hats & kids
are a lot less polite about it than adults ;) and really a 21" head on a 4 year old doesn't seem out of the
ordinary to me. i think my 6 year old's head is close to 22" now if i measure over his ears for a hat. lee --
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason
than that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by spampot on Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:26 PM    Post subject: Re: OT: North Americans- Columbus Day

enigma wrote: [quote:9d17e0bb68]mirjam@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote in
news:452c7946.4018125@ar.news.verio.net: I love eating Asaparagus, and when in my teens we collected and planted them
, but alas i don`t remember the proper way to take care of them ... :) i'm a farmer when i'm not knitting, spinning,
beading or sewing. i lost my decorative asparagus by the back door to a sneak attack by a catnip plant. crowded it right
out. i'm in the process of rebuilding my asparagus bed that came with the house, as the previous owners never weeded
apparently. a good bed of asparagus will produce for up to 50 years, if cared for. i'm going to put in some regular, old
fashioned asparagus & some of the newer, all male, & purple types to see which i like best. lee
[/quote:9d17e0bb68] Wow. I hope catmint doesn't do the same; the friend who's been putting sun-lovers in our garden's
empty spaces put one in, but a couple of feet from the asparagus. Thanks for the warning; I'll keep an eye on it!

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Posted by enigma on Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:19 AM    Post subject: Re: OT: North Americans- Columbus Day

mirjam@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote in news:452c7946.4018125@ar.news.verio.net: [quote:59f7d17440]I love
eating Asaparagus, and when in my teens we collected and planted them , but alas i don`t remember the proper way to take
care of them ... [/quote:59f7d17440] :) i'm a farmer when i'm not knitting, spinning, beading or sewing. i lost my
decorative asparagus by the back door to a sneak attack by a catnip plant. crowded it right out. i'm in the process of
rebuilding my asparagus bed that came with the house, as the previous owners never weeded apparently. a good bed of
asparagus will produce for up to 50 years, if cared for. i'm going to put in some regular, old fashioned asparagus
& some of the newer, all male, & purple types to see which i like best. lee -- Question with boldness even
the existence of god; because if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

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Posted by Wooly on Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:06 PM    Post subject: Re: resizing mittens

On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:06:28 +0000 (UTC), enigma <enigma@empire.net> spewed forth : [quote:5c1471d19e]ah, why
didn't *i* think of that? i like the idea of working fingering on ones, because, even with the double stranding, i think
fingering on 3s isn't going to make really warm mittens. i think i'm going to have to make a mitten as the swatch with
these though. [/quote:5c1471d19e] I made the matching cap last week for my kiddo. I used worsted weight yarn but I had
to lose 20-odd stitches for the thing to fit his bean - so I've been down this road with these charts :D Happy
knitting! +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to USENET. This practice has cut my
spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email account...

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Posted by Shillelagh on Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:33 PM    Post subject: Re: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction

"Teacher Gal" <luets@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1160369489.034573.109940@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:971d5568bf] Thanks for the praise. I didn't modify
it that much...just changed the edging. The pattern itself was in the appendix of the book. [/quote:971d5568bf] Okay,
then maybe there are 2 different patterns. Mine is a triangular shape. Go here to have a look at the one I bought:
http://www.fiddlesticksknitting.com/PeacockLarge.html I've been working on it for months, but keep getting interrupted
for other smaller projects. I'm doing some Christmas knitting right now. Shelagh

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Posted by Teacher Gal on Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:51 AM    Post subject: Re: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction

Shelagh said: [quote:7e503f7d42]Anastasia, your shawl is beautiful. I'm knitting the Peacock Feathers right now, but
in the original shape from the pattern. There is no way on this earth I could modify it the way you did. ;>) I
ripped out my first try at this shawl, and am now doing it from blue/green/mauve cotton. What yarn did you use, and how
long did it take you to knit it? [/quote:7e503f7d42] Thanks for the praise. I didn't modify it that much...just
changed the edging. The pattern itself was in the appendix of the book. I believe I used Henry's Attic alpaca
yarn....a sportweight, if I remember correctly. All told, the sucker took about a year. I put it away when the heat of
the summer hit around April.....Alpaca is a bear to knit when it's hot and sticky out! Anastasia

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Posted by Shillelagh on Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:46 PM    Post subject: Re: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction

"Teacher Gal" <luets@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1159983238.544767.101910@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:fdab6ca2d9]In case anyone would like to see, the
finished (and slightly modified) Peacock Feathers Shawl from A Gathering of Lace is posted in my Knitting projects
folder at webshots ( http://www.webshots.com/user/tasialue ). There's only one pic, but I may take a few more clear
shots later. [/quote:fdab6ca2d9] Anastasia, your shawl is beautiful. I'm knitting the Peacock Feathers right now, but
in the original shape from the pattern. There is no way on this earth I could modify it the way you did. ;>) I
ripped out my first try at this shawl, and am now doing it from blue/green/mauve cotton. What yarn did you use, and how
long did it take you to knit it? Shelagh

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Posted by hesira on Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:09 PM    Post subject: Re: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction

That is truly beautiful! Hesira Teacher Gal wrote: [quote:30f390a470]In case anyone would like to see, the finished
(and slightly modified) Peacock Feathers Shawl from A Gathering of Lace is posted in my Knitting projects folder at
webshots ( http://www.webshots.com/user/tasialue ). There's only one pic, but I may take a few more clear shots later.
I'm still chipping away at the Shetland shawl. I hope to have the center finished in the next week or so, then it's on
to the borders. I'm going to try a technique that will sort of "meld" the traditional and modern methods of
construction: I plan to pick up stitches around three sides of the center and knit the border all at once, going back
and forth across the circular needle, rather than in-the-round. Hopefully, this will leave me only one long edge to
graft together. Why this weird way? A) I hate grafting, and B) I don't want to have to do weird "p2 tog
tbl" type stitches all across the even rows. Anyone see how my method might run into problems? Care to comment?
It's my first Shetland shawl, and I'm excited at how it's turning out, but I'll be devastated if I run into any huge,
insurmountable problems and end up with something less than beautiful. Hints regarding mitering the border corners
would be appreciated, too. Anastasia --who's still trying to do an unBELIEVABLE amount of grad school work while
knitting. If she could perfect reading textbooks while knitting lace at the same time, she'd be blissful. Alas, the
eyes tend to cross when it is attempted.[/quote:30f390a470]

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Posted by Laura J on Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:31 PM    Post subject: Re: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction

Oh wow, Anastasia, that is beautiful. I am so impressed! LauraJ "Teacher Gal" <luets@charter.net>
wrote in message news:1159983238.544767.101910@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:80ed24f79a]In case anyone would
like to see, the finished (and slightly modified) Peacock Feathers Shawl from A Gathering of Lace is posted in my
Knitting projects folder at webshots ( http://www.webshots.com/user/tasialue ). There's only one pic, but I may take a
few more clear shots later. I'm still chipping away at the Shetland shawl. I hope to have the center finished in the
next week or so, then it's on to the borders. I'm going to try a technique that will sort of "meld" the
traditional and modern methods of construction: I plan to pick up stitches around three sides of the center and knit
the border all at once, going back and forth across the circular needle, rather than in-the-round. Hopefully, this will
leave me only one long edge to graft together. Why this weird way? A) I hate grafting, and B) I don't want to have to
do weird "p2 tog tbl" type stitches all across the even rows. Anyone see how my method might run into
problems? Care to comment? It's my first Shetland shawl, and I'm excited at how it's turning out, but I'll be
devastated if I run into any huge, insurmountable problems and end up with something less than beautiful. Hints
regarding mitering the border corners would be appreciated, too. Anastasia --who's still trying to do an unBELIEVABLE
amount of grad school work while knitting. If she could perfect reading textbooks while knitting lace at the same
time, she'd be blissful. Alas, the eyes tend to cross when it is attempted. [/quote:80ed24f79a]

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View entire thread: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction
Posted by Teacher Gal on Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:33 PM    Post subject: FO and question on Shetland shawl construction

In case anyone would like to see, the finished (and slightly modified) Peacock Feathers Shawl from A Gathering of Lace
is posted in my Knitting projects folder at webshots ( http://www.webshots.com/user/tasialue ). There's only one pic,
but I may take a few more clear shots later. I'm still chipping away at the Shetland shawl. I hope to have the center
finished in the next week or so, then it's on to the borders. I'm going to try a technique that will sort of
"meld" the traditional and modern methods of construction: I plan to pick up stitches around three sides of
the center and knit the border all at once, going back and forth across the circular needle, rather than in-the-round.
Hopefully, this will leave me only one long edge to graft together. Why this weird way? A) I hate grafting, and B) I
don't want to have to do weird "p2 tog tbl" type stitches all across the even rows. Anyone see how my method
might run into problems? Care to comment? It's my first Shetland shawl, and I'm excited at how it's turning out, but
I'll be devastated if I run into any huge, insurmountable problems and end up with something less than beautiful. Hints
regarding mitering the border corners would be appreciated, too. Anastasia --who's still trying to do an unBELIEVABLE
amount of grad school work while knitting. If she could perfect reading textbooks while knitting lace at the same
time, she'd be blissful. Alas, the eyes tend to cross when it is attempted.

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View entire thread: September FO's
Posted by hesira on Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:24 AM    Post subject: Re: September FO's

Thanks Shelagh! hugs, Hesira Shillelagh wrote: [quote:74a16c7671]bienchat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160060238.191845.270460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... Wow, the socks and Sienna look great and so does your
drawing. I didn't know you were such a talented artist! Marie and the cats I second that! Lovely knitting and
artwork. Shelagh[/quote:74a16c7671]

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Posted by Shillelagh on Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:49 PM    Post subject: Re: September FO's

<bienchat@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1160060238.191845.270460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
[quote:adadb5c5c3]Wow, the socks and Sienna look great and so does your drawing. I didn't know you were such a talented
artist! Marie and the cats [/quote:adadb5c5c3] I second that! Lovely knitting and artwork. Shelagh

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Posted by hesira on Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:54 PM    Post subject: Re: September FO's

Thanks, Marie. I really enjoyed the knitting, and am just now getting back into my artwork. Hugs, Hesira
bienchat@hotmail.com wrote: [quote:c691aad0e7]Wow, the socks and Sienna look great and so does your drawing. I didn't
know you were such a talented artist! Marie and the cats [/quote:c691aad0e7]

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View entire thread: September FO's
Posted by Leah on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:46 PM    Post subject: September FO's

Hi all, Still here, just busy as all getout. I did manage to make 3 skinny scarves in September. One from Lion Brand
Fun Fur, one in Bernat's Boa, and a really wonderfully soft one in Zitron's Filou. Actually made these in the round on
16 sts rather than make flat and sew up, so the fuzzy sides are out all the way around no matter how you drape them. I
would have made them all in Filou, but the color selection is very limited. Also considered Lana's Amsterdam, which is
also very soft, but again colors are scarce! Haven't taken any pictures of those yet, just got busy on a request for
hats for the needy as the temperature is getting ready to drop, so that's my project this month, hats. A friend made up
a quick knitting machine pattern using durable worsted weight Red Heart from afghan leftovers, so I can make stripes or
do other color work using her pattern. She had planned on making a Harry Potter Prisoner Of Azkaban stripe style hat
using that pattern for another friend, but she died unexpectedly, and so my friend couldn't make one for her, but she is
happy to share her pattern. I plan on making 3 for The Ships Project (1 done already) for those in the military
freezing on ships in the ocean, and 3 for Hats For The Homeless to help those less fortunate, especially teens and
adults, as it seems babies get plenty of charity items like blankets and clothes, but the older ones often fall through
the cracks, and I remember being really cold as a poor teen. I'm thinking I may make mittens to go with the teen or
adult hats, because my hands were almost always cold in the winter! What did you finish in September? Leah

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View entire thread: Reading a Chart in the Round
Posted by hesira on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:21 PM    Post subject: Re: Reading a Chart in the Round

Thanks, Wooly, As ever, you are full of useful info and generous with sharing it! Hesira Wooly wrote:
[quote:546efc561d]On 3 Oct 2006 19:07:47 -0700, "hesira" <chris_traci@msn.com> spewed forth : When you
follow a chart for knitting in the round, do you read it as you normally do: bottom right to left, then left to right,
zigzagging upwards? Read each line from right to left. +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an email
address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good
email account...[/quote:546efc561d]

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Posted by Wooly on Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:48 PM    Post subject: Re: Reading a Chart in the Round

On 3 Oct 2006 19:07:47 -0700, "hesira" <chris_traci@msn.com> spewed forth : [quote:d2e37cccc1]When you
follow a chart for knitting in the round, do you read it as you normally do: bottom right to left, then left to right,
zigzagging upwards? [/quote:d2e37cccc1] Read each line from right to left. +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not
publish an email address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a
perfectly good email account...

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Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:26 AM    Post subject: Re: Reading a Chart in the Round

Hesira , i am not sure i follow your question ? Is it a chart for a hat ? i THINK most charts are built to show the
Out surface , But if you knit it in the round than you go round and round and do not go from left to right
??????????please enlighten me wht it is you do , so i can try and help . mirjam [quote:c2acc29ada]When you follow a
chart for knitting in the round, do you read it as you normally do: bottom right to left, then left to right,
zigzagging upwards? TIA Hesira [/quote:c2acc29ada]

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Posted by hesira on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:07 AM    Post subject: Reading a Chart in the Round

When you follow a chart for knitting in the round, do you read it as you normally do: bottom right to left, then left
to right, zigzagging upwards? TIA Hesira

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View entire thread: Sudoku Lap Throw
Posted by Jenn on Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:15 PM    Post subject: Re: Sudoku Lap Throw

BonnieBlue, The latest Knit1 magazine for Fall or Winter (brunette with long hair and a cream colored giant cable
sleeveless sweater on the cover) has it. I believe it has borders around the 9 patches and overall, but not the
individual squares. Jenn in CA BonnieBlue wrote: [quote:8623f39304]I wanted to share something that came up in
discussion a couple of weekends ago when knitting with some friends. One person had seen an afghan/lap throw done in
the manner of a Sudoku puzzle. There were nine colors with a number (1-9) assigned to each color. You take a solved
Sudoku puzzle and arrange the knitted or crocheted squares of colors according to where the numbers fall. There was a
lot of discussion of putting black or dark borders around each square or not or just putting the border around the
outside or doing both. BonnieBlue[/quote:8623f39304]

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Posted by Mirjam Bruck-Cohen on Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:24 AM    Post subject: Re: Sudoku Lap Throw

Years ago i knitted a sweater with 9 colors i made it in a Log cabin pattern , mooving the numbers +1 up in each square
,, but i knitted it in one go =2 squares are on each half part of the sweater ,,, [ 2 on front 2 on back i Drew a
pattern and calculated the sizes so that 1 square will cover 1/4 of my circumference ,,, i started each inside with an
other color and than followed the surrounding `strips` by numbers ,,,, at times i knitted 6 colors in one row ,,,, was
sun still looks great. mirjam [quote:81204e3025]I wanted to share something that came up in discussion a couple of
weekends ago when knitting with some friends. One person had seen an afghan/lap throw done in the manner of a Sudoku
puzzle. There were nine colors with a number (1-9) assigned to each color. You take a solved Sudoku puzzle and arrange
the knitted or crocheted squares of colors according to where the numbers fall. There was a lot of discussion of
putting black or dark borders around each square or not or just putting the border around the outside or doing both.
BonnieBlue [/quote:81204e3025]

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Posted by BonnieBlue on Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:05 AM    Post subject: Sudoku Lap Throw

I wanted to share something that came up in discussion a couple of weekends ago when knitting with some friends. One
person had seen an afghan/lap throw done in the manner of a Sudoku puzzle. There were nine colors with a number (1-9)
assigned to each color. You take a solved Sudoku puzzle and arrange the knitted or crocheted squares of colors
according to where the numbers fall. There was a lot of discussion of putting black or dark borders around each
square or not or just putting the border around the outside or doing both. BonnieBlue

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View entire thread: Knitting/Crocheting from unspun wool
Posted by Stella Fenley on Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:04 PM    Post subject: Re: Knitting/Crocheting from unspun wool

have you tried just plain vaseline to moisturize your hands. Stella "Jenn" <pleiaden@gmail.com> wrote
in message news:1159809790.506175.107660@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... [quote:4170a5dd8f]Hi Ladies. I am mostly a
lurker in this realm, but I have been crocheting for 16+ years and knitting (Self taught) for almost a year now. I
picked up this month's (actually November's) Crochet! magazine and it had a nice article on crocheting from unspun wool.
So I go to the local Farmer's Market for the first time over this weekend there is a YARN BOOTH. All local hand dyed
yarns, most spun already, but some 'Fluffs' as she called them. I made a beeline for a bright as the sun yellow one.
So my question is does any one here knit or crochet from unspun wool and just how hard is it? I do have a hand spindle
that was a wedding present from three years ago along with some undyed natural wool, but I am not brave enough to use it
without major instruction (which doesn't appear to exist in my area). So if push came to shove I could spin it, but I'm
not excited about using this yarn for that test. One other question - I HAVE a huge problem with dry hands (don't let
me touch silk or microfiber - it gets caught) mostly because I wash them regularly due to working with yarn on a regular
basis (and I cross stitch) and I don't want to get anything on the fibers. Can you recommend anything other than udder
cream? Thank you, Jenn in CA FYI for those interested the yarn is from a shop called Royale Hare in Santa Rosa CA.
[/quote:4170a5dd8f]

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Posted by Eastern Edge on Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:45 PM    Post subject: Re: Knitting/Crocheting from unspun wool

Wooly wrote: [quote:18a5d17db6]On 2 Oct 2006 10:23:10 -0700, "Jenn" <pleiaden@gmail.com> spewed forth :
Hi Ladies. I am mostly a lurker in this realm, but I have been crocheting for 16+ years and knitting (Self taught) for
almost a year now. I picked up this month's (actually November's) Crochet! magazine and it had a nice article on
crocheting from unspun wool. So my question is does any one here knit or crochet from unspun wool and just how hard is
it? I do, sometimes. Most of the "unspun knitting" patterns call for pencil roving similar to White Buffalo
stuff - it's been made ready for spinning and drawn out into a fine strand but doesn't actually have twist insert into
it. Working with it is about as difficult as working with White Buffalo or with unspun Icelandic. There have been
several articles about it in both SpinOff and Knits during the past couple of years. +++++++++++++ Reply to the list
as I do not publish an email address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to
abandon a perfectly good email account... [/quote:18a5d17db6] The White Buffalo is my 'new find' and I've been enjoying
it. I do tend to twist it as I crochet as it's fairly easy to pull apart as you apply tension. I've also used an
improvised drop spindle with it to add some twist. I find the biggest issue is breakage; I'd recommend (not that I did,
though) a swatch or two, just so you can get used to how much tension you can apply to the wool before it breaks...my
first attempts had plenty of splicing. Even just twisting it slightly as you work (does it on its own if you're working
crochet back and forth) makes a big difference. Michelle

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Posted by Wooly on Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:53 PM    Post subject: Re: Knitting/Crocheting from unspun wool

On 2 Oct 2006 10:23:10 -0700, "Jenn" <pleiaden@gmail.com> spewed forth : [quote:4f702f65c0]Hi Ladies.
I am mostly a lurker in this realm, but I have been crocheting for 16+ years and knitting (Self taught) for almost a
year now. I picked up this month's (actually November's) Crochet! magazine and it had a nice article on crocheting from
unspun wool. So my question is does any one here knit or crochet from unspun wool and just how hard is it?
[/quote:4f702f65c0] I do, sometimes. Most of the "unspun knitting" patterns call for pencil roving similar to
White Buffalo stuff - it's been made ready for spinning and drawn out into a fine strand but doesn't actually have twist
insert into it. Working with it is about as difficult as working with White Buffalo or with unspun Icelandic. There
have been several articles about it in both SpinOff and Knits during the past couple of years. +++++++++++++ Reply to
the list as I do not publish an email address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I
did have to abandon a perfectly good email account...

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View entire thread: Knitting/Crocheting from unspun wool
Posted by Jenn on Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:23 PM    Post subject: Knitting/Crocheting from unspun wool

Hi Ladies. I am mostly a lurker in this realm, but I have been crocheting for 16+ years and knitting (Self taught) for
almost a year now. I picked up this month's (actually November's) Crochet! magazine and it had a nice article on
crocheting from unspun wool. So I go to the local Farmer's Market for the first time over this weekend there is a YARN
BOOTH. All local hand dyed yarns, most spun already, but some 'Fluffs' as she called them. I made a beeline for a
bright as the sun yellow one. So my question is does any one here knit or crochet from unspun wool and just how hard is
it? I do have a hand spindle that was a wedding present from three years ago along with some undyed natural wool, but I
am not brave enough to use it without major instruction (which doesn't appear to exist in my area). So if push came to
shove I could spin it, but I'm not excited about using this yarn for that test. One other question - I HAVE a huge
problem with dry hands (don't let me touch silk or microfiber - it gets caught) mostly because I wash them regularly due
to working with yarn on a regular basis (and I cross stitch) and I don't want to get anything on the fibers. Can you
recommend anything other than udder cream? Thank you, Jenn in CA FYI for those interested the yarn is from a shop
called Royale Hare in Santa Rosa CA.

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View entire thread: UFO/WIP Disorder
Posted by spampot on Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:46 AM    Post subject: Re: UFO/WIP Disorder

Wooly wrote: [quote:d3d8a8de0e]On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:03:22 -0400, spampot <spampot@orph.org> spewed forth : HA!
You're One Of Us. Yes. Socks are like crack. Have been for years. But earlier this year I cranked out a few dozen
pairs on the circular sock machine. And I've got 3doz pairs in the rotation WITHOUT the machine socks. Crack, indeed.
+++++++++++++ [/quote:d3d8a8de0e] Whoa!! Yes, I don't dare buy such a machine, or a knitting machine, or get involved
in spinning....

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Posted by spampot on Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:03 AM    Post subject: Re: UFO/WIP Disorder

Wooly wrote: [quote:45e19e49ff]On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:26:51 -0400, spampot <spampot@orph.org> spewed forth :
'Fess up, gang, who else is a fellow sufferer? I've always got a sock (or two) on needles despite my earlier avowal to
STOP KNITTING SOCKS for couple of years. Socks are like crack, I guess, plus I can stuff one into my bag and keep
myself busy while waiting around. [/quote:45e19e49ff] HA! You're One Of Us. Yes. Socks are like crack.
[quote:45e19e49ff]I did just rip a Rogue that I had knitted to the underarm. My gauge swatch told me that merely
knitting up a size should give me a sweater that fits, but that wasn't the case. Rather than *plan* to shrink into the
sweater I chose to rip it and the yarn is now back in the stash contemplating its next appearance. The skullcap *g* was
my consolation prize knitting. I had it on my "to do" list so after I ripped the sweater I just got it done.
I am about to cast on with my handspun for a modified version of a sweater from _A Gathering of Lace_. I've mathed it
four times and had a friend check my numbers, just to be safe. The castin on will probably take a couple of hours...
Otherwise I'm project-free at the moment. +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to
USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email
account...[/quote:45e19e49ff]

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Posted by Wooly on Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:27 PM    Post subject: Re: UFO/WIP Disorder

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 10:26:51 -0400, spampot <spampot@orph.org> spewed forth : [quote:3fc79f9e48] 'Fess up, gang,
who else is a fellow sufferer? [/quote:3fc79f9e48] I've always got a sock (or two) on needles despite my earlier avowal
to STOP KNITTING SOCKS for couple of years. Socks are like crack, I guess, plus I can stuff one into my bag and keep
myself busy while waiting around. I did just rip a Rogue that I had knitted to the underarm. My gauge swatch told me
that merely knitting up a size should give me a sweater that fits, but that wasn't hte case. Rather than *plan* to
shrink into the sweater I chose to rip it and the yarn is now back in the stash contemplating it's next appearance.
The skullcap *g* was my consolation prize knitting. I had it on my "to do" list so after I ripped the sweater
I just got it done. I am about to cast on with my handspun for a modified version of a sweater from _A Gathering of
Lace_. I've mathed it four times and had a friend check my numbers, just to be safe. The castin on will probably take
a couple of hours... Otherwise I'm project-free at the moment. +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an
email address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly
good email account...

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View entire thread: Yar! Ahoy Matey!
Posted by Eastern Edge on Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:58 AM    Post subject: Re: Yar! Ahoy Matey!

Katherine wrote: [quote:43be710fd1]Wooly wrote: For your viewing pleasure, the links: ~55k
http://www.fysh.org/~slinky/pix/yar_matey_small.jpg ~200k http://www.fysh.org/~slinky/pix/yar_matey_big.jpg Gorgeous!
Higs, Katherine [/quote:43be710fd1] Gorgeous is right! I saw that link in my travels for a three-corner hat but my
knitting is nowhere near the level where I could handle it :( because my boy would certainly flip for it....and my DH
too :( damn...I don't regret not knitting well very often Absolutely wonderful job on the hat!! Michelle

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View entire thread: Finally, a use for aluminum DPNs
Posted by suzee on Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:12 AM    Post subject: Re: Finally, a use for aluminum DPNs

Wooly wrote: [quote:64963d58c3]I don't like aluminum needles. They're cold, they stay cold, they have no give, they
hurt my hands. But I have finally found a use for the odd aluminum DPNs that seem to have found their way into my bag:
hairsticks! Today I broke my last bamboo hairstick as I was jabbing it into my bun. As I needed to *get my hair up*
and didn't want to use a 'gator clip I cast about me for a suitable replacement for the bamboo hairstick (read: filed
and sanded chopstick). My eye lit on a cup in my corner cabinet into which I've been tossing all the orphan knitting
needles - and there was a nice shiny purpley Boye (or maybe Bates, who knows) DPN doing nothing, waiting for it's chance
to show off. Voila! My bun is up! [/quote:64963d58c3] They'd probably slide out of my hair; I have enough trouble with
lacquered chopsticks sometimes... sue

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Posted by Wooly on Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:44 PM    Post subject: Finally, a use for aluminum DPNs

I don't like aluminum needles. They're cold, they stay cold, they have no give, they hurt my hands. But I have finally
found a use for the odd aluminum DPNs that seem to have found their way into my bag: hairsticks! Today I broke my last
bamboo hairstick as I was jabbing it into my bun. As I needed to *get my hair up* and didn't want to use a 'gator clip
I cast about me for a suitable replacement for the bamboo hairstick (read: filed and sanded chopstick). My eye lit on a
cup in my corner cabinet into which I've been tossing all the orphan knitting needles - and there was a nice shiny
purpley Boye (or maybe Bates, who knows) DPN doing nothing, waiting for it's chance to show off. Voila! My bun is up!
+++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more
than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email account...

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View entire thread: sore hands
Posted by BB on Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:44 PM    Post subject: Re: sore hands

[quote:8d33620537]Hi Ladies, I am new to the group. I work in technical support (so lots of typing) and I've been
knitting for several years. Lately my hands have become very sore, so much that I've had to stop. Do any of you have
suggestions to aleviate the soreness? I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks so much! Emma's Mom
[/quote:8d33620537] I use lightweight bamboo needles whenever possible (if only I could instantly restock my supply
with all bamboo...<sigh> ). I used to like working with all cotton. Then I worked with some nice, soft merino
wool. I now hate working with cotton. The type of yarn makes a huge difference on my hand pain level. I love the way
cotton looks and feels though, so I have to have something else to work on at the same time so I don't overdo with the
cotton. I had previously avoided using small needles and small guage yarns, erroneously thinking it would be more
painful. I discovered using tiny circulars with tiny yarn the easiest thing of all for my hands. There is almost no
weight of the project to cause stress on them. Now that the weather is cooling off here, I need to make an effort to
keep my hands warm enough. So I understand how washing dishes may help :) Welcome to the group! BB

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Posted by cozyhomelife on Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:36 PM    Post subject: Re: sore hands

It could be you might be knitting very tightly with a lot of tension on the yarn then. Don't do this in the middle of a
project, but once you start a new one, try knitting looser with less tension. You can still keep guage by changing
needle sizes, like using a smaller needle when you knit looser. Or if you are not making actual clothes, it doesn't
matter on many tthings what the gauge is. If you are a person who is prone to this kind of thing, you also need to
pace yourself, like stopping for a miunute between rows to give your hands a chance to relax. Sounds like a nuisance,
but if you are watching tv, it kind of works out natural if you just make a point to look at the tv and let your hands
go still when you do, every few minutes, just even for 5-15 seconds. -- -Cozy
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=cozy_at_home Happiness doesn't come from having things, it comes
from *having things you can find* :) "Emma's Mom" <you_xiong@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159554792.113203.94530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... [quote:189f11a770]Hi Ladies, I am new to the group. I work
in technical support (so lots of typing) and I've been knitting for several years. Lately my hands have become very
sore, so much that I've had to stop. Do any of you have suggestions to aleviate the soreness? I would appreciate any
suggestions. Thanks so much! Emma's Mom [/quote:189f11a770]

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Posted by YarnWright on Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:46 PM    Post subject: Re: sore hands

On 29 Sep 2006 11:33:12 -0700, Emma's Mom spun a fine yarn [quote:b2357c93f4]Hi Ladies, I am new to the group. I work
in technical support (so lots of typing) and I've been knitting for several years. Lately my hands have become very
sore, so much that I've had to stop. Do any of you have suggestions to aleviate the soreness? I would appreciate any
suggestions. Thanks so much! Emma's Mom [/quote:b2357c93f4] 1. although I AM one of the 'ladies' here, there *are*
gentlement here as well. 2. size of needles, as per some unenlightended suggestions have nothing to do with sore hands,
it's tension, tension, tension!... do you knit English/American? If so, sugeest taking up Continental/German style. 3.
Straight needles, aluminum needles are terrible hand offenders... switch to circs whenever possible, and use natural
materials for both your needles and your fibre. 4. frequent breaks, and doing hand excercises can assist. 5. Doing a
load of dishes helps a LOT. I know it sounds sexist, but it's true... (long story, which I don't have the time or
inclination to tell at this moment. JM2C, Noreen -- I am not young enough to know everything.
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Posted by Katherine on Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:19 AM    Post subject: Re: sore hands

Emma's Mom wrote: [quote:923f705a9c]Hi Ladies, I am new to the group. I work in technical support (so lots of typing)
and I've been knitting for several years. Lately my hands have become very sore, so much that I've had to stop. Do any
of you have suggestions to aleviate the soreness? I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks so much!
[/quote:923f705a9c] Maybe you need different needles - bamboo isone possibility. Or maybe circulars. Higs, Katherine

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