View entire thread: OT: Colorado Springs pictures up
Posted by Angbug on Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:08 PM Post subject: Re: OT: Colorado Springs pictures up
kenda wrote: [quote:94f2e975ec]I finally had a chance to upload the pictures from our trip. Most of the pictures are
from the practice for the Firefighter Memorial but some are from the actual ceremony. It just didn't seem fitting to
take too many pictures during the actual ceremony. We are in the process of trying to get copies of the professional
pictures the IAFF had taken, don't know if it will happen or not. You can tell the difference in the dress for which
are practice and which are the actual ceremony. -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:94f2e975ec]
Kenda: I just had a thought that would be a very touching/theraputic/thoughtful project fo you if you would like...
there is a website, go to http://www.servicememories.com then click under choose a branch. They have All the military
branches as well as Police and Firefighter. THey have some AWESOME albums with the branch emblem embedded in the front
of the album, they also have kits with everything to go with that branch. It is UNBELIEVABLE. So, my thought is if you
have the extra $40 or so then check them out and if you have any pictures of Firefighter Bevins you could do a book for
him and either give it to his family, OR see if his firehouse would like to have it in his memory... what do you think
about that. Just thought you might like the idea. It seems that you were so close to him. Ang.
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View entire thread: OT: Colorado Springs pictures up
Posted by kenda on Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:01 PM Post subject: Re: OT: Colorado Springs pictures up
What an awsome site!! Thanks for sending it along. They have some things I haven't see before. I will be doing a
Memorial book, we have access to the scrapbook that has the FF embelm on it. The Union will retain possession of the
scrapbook. In the time that I've been on the job we've lost 2 Firefighters on the job. I talked with the Union
president and he thought making an album dedicated to those we've lost was a good idea. Captain Bevans son wouldn't
appricieat the album, and entire job was his family so it would be better to keep it with the Union so everyone could
look at it. (we are a small department with 150 members) Again thanks for the site! -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6
"Angbug" <angela.knight@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159031317.802082.102320@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... [quote:ebb29bc000] kenda wrote: I finally had a chance to
upload the pictures from our trip. Most of the pictures are from the practice for the Firefighter Memorial but some are
from the actual ceremony. It just didn't seem fitting to take too many pictures during the actual ceremony. We are in
the process of trying to get copies of the professional pictures the IAFF had taken, don't know if it will happen or
not. You can tell the difference in the dress for which are practice and which are the actual ceremony. -- Kenda
(remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini
albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts:
6 Kenda: I just had a thought that would be a very touching/theraputic/thoughtful project fo you if you would like...
there is a website, go to http://www.servicememories.com then click under choose a branch. They have All the military
branches as well as Police and Firefighter. THey have some AWESOME albums with the branch emblem embedded in the front
of the album, they also have kits with everything to go with that branch. It is UNBELIEVABLE. So, my thought is if you
have the extra $40 or so then check them out and if you have any pictures of Firefighter Bevins you could do a book for
him and either give it to his family, OR see if his firehouse would like to have it in his memory... what do you think
about that. Just thought you might like the idea. It seems that you were so close to him. Ang. [/quote:ebb29bc000]
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View entire thread: fs anyone want this tool - pay postage -- wire wrap pin str
Posted by Jeffrey D Angus on Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:52 AM Post subject: Re: fs anyone want this tool - pay postage -- wire wrap pin
I'll take it. I already owe you a bit from the last "find" of yours. Jeff William Noble wrote:
[quote:a13fab7b61]I have a speical tool that I believe is for straightening wire wrap pins - it's a Xcelite X100
screwdriver that has been provessionally modified - the phillips end is cut off and there is a hole drilled in the
center of the shaft - it is stamped MT2824-gm It would also be useful for making bends in spring wire, etc Hole
diameter is 40 or 50 thousandths (I'll trade this for some gauge wires so I can measure things like this accurately) If
you want it, $3.50 will cover shipping and buy my wife half a cup of coffee as a reward for walking it to the post
office. [/quote:a13fab7b61] -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction
of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS
AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950.
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View entire thread: aluminum available
Posted by TheAndroid on Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:01 PM Post subject: Re: aluminum available
I knew that. Yea, my wife, Morgan Fairchild told me..... Hey, where and when is that meeting? I should would like to
go! And so you know, now that the local dirt can no longer be used for kindling, I'm gonna start melting again. I'll
keep you posted on when. Rex B wrote: [quote:451d5edc7c]TheAndroid wrote: I guess I should mention that I'm in Irving.
Rex B is in Ft. Worth. Keller actually. There's a Mid-Cities HSM group that meets next on Sept 30. Not sure if I'll
make it, but someone ought to share this info with them. Rex TheAndroid wrote: Rick, I'm definately interested. I pay
about 1.50 a pound at Liberty Metals. What form factors do you have? Rick wrote: My intention is to sell direct to
small shops, not really to a reseller. You're right. It would not make a lot of sense for a reseller to get involved.
I'm in the middle of the Dallas-Fort Worth area. My original thought is that small shops would want to come out and
take my excess at a discount instead of buying from the big suppliers. There are a lot of shops in this area. They
can save money and I can get better than scrap value for my stock. Plus anyone dealing in aircraft can take advantage
of the certifications. I currently sell about $120,000 a month in scrap aluminum pucks and titanium chips. What I'm
offering here is geared to a shop looking for discount prices on aluminum. Wayne Lundberg wrote: "Rick"
<mvk66tx@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:1158701610.621159.148040@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... If anyone
is interested, I have a lot of aluminum scrap available in dropoff block form from our saw room. I run a large
commercial machine shop (120,000 sqft) and we have been setting back scrap for years. Instead of sending it to the
scrap yard, I thought I'd make it available to different newsgroups for home shops and small shops. I have all kinds of
aluminum... most with certification numbers because 90% of our work is military aircraft. I also have titanium if
anyone is interested. I have all sizes, from flat stock 1" x 3" x 144" to large blocks 6" x 8"
x 12". I've probably got over a million pounds all together. I can also saw if needed. This is an
experiment... my initial price range would be about 75% of current raw materials prices, possibly less, depending on
the circumstances. I can email pictures of what I have if you give me a range. Thanks, Rick Rick, if you are
selling at just 25% discount from original cost, then I would not make a penny on reselling it through whatever
transformation I performed due to cost of freight, handling and the like. You might be better off just selling it to the
local recycling facility. Wayne [/quote:451d5edc7c]
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View entire thread: OT-Illegal Alien Stats
Posted by Larry Jaques on Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:13 PM Post subject: Re: OT-Illegal Alien Stats
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:36:27 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner <gunner@lightspeed.net> quickly quoth:
[quote:832fba4482]On 29 Sep 2006 12:31:04 -0700, hellyesorno@yahoo.com.au wrote: I would suggest that if they are
working and living then they are buying and consumming goods and services, so in a way they are contributing to society,
granted they aren't paying direct income tax but given how cheap most of your countrymen pay them then they probably
wouldn't pay tax anyway. Income tax to most goverments is only cream for the parties, the milk comes from all the other
taxs ect. on the things you buy and use, "A bit on everything goes a long way." is what runs the show. So
because a bank robber or wife beater or child molester may pay taxes on the goods and services he purchases, or even
pays income tax..we should give him a pass on all his criminal activity? [/quote:832fba4482] Like this? A friend sent
this to me asking if I had trouble in my own back yard. (Published in the San Diego Union today.) Mexican drug gangs
growing marijuana in Oregon; uptick in violence feared By Bryan Denson NEWHOUSE NEWS SERVICE September 29, 2006
PORTLAND, Ore. – Armed Mexican drug gangs have made southern Oregon's mountains their garden, cultivating tens of
thousands of high-grade marijuana plants and – as harvest time approaches – setting the stage for potential violence.
In recent growing seasons, the gangs have put illegal immigrants to work as gardeners in remote patches of Jackson,
Josephine and Douglas counties, a verdant region known globally for its high-grade cannabis, according to police
agencies that have been pulling up the illegal plants. The growth in Mexican drug gangs in Oregon helped to spur a 44
percent increase in identified drug trafficking organizations between 2004 and 2005, according to the Oregon Department
of Justice's first comprehensive report on organized crime in the state. The report says Oregon has been spared the
kind of mob organizations and rampant public corruption reported elsewhere in the nation. But the state is thick with
homegrown gangs – including bikers, street thugs and convicts – and criminal networks with tentacles in Asia and former
republics of the Soviet Union, the 43-page document says. The attorney general's report says more than 120 drug gangs
have been identified in the state, 46 of them with roots in Mexico. The increase in Mexican drug gangs came as no
surprise to sheriff's departments across southwestern Oregon, which find themselves hip deep in prosecutions of low-
level growers getting ready to harvest plants for their bosses before the first frost. “Historically there has been an
enormous flow of methamphetamine that is largely controlled by Mexican cartels,” Douglas County Sheriff Chris Brown
said. “But the proliferation of the marijuana growers is really kind of a new trend for us. We first detected those in
Oregon just a few years ago. Now we're finding more and more each year.” Illegal immigrants, some recruited off the
streets of the San Francisco Bay Area, have been paid as much as $10,000 to tend the June-to-October crops and serve as
armed sentries, said detective Sgt. Ken Selig, commander of the Josephine Interagency Narcotics Team. Recruits are
typically dropped off in remote woods managed by the U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management. Equipped with
picks, shovels and other provisions, they work a bit like indentured servants. “We're not seeing the high-level (gang)
members,” said Brian Anderson, Josephine County's undersheriff. “We're seeing the workers. Those are the ones we're
arresting. And they all appear to be illegal (immigrants). We are finding weapons – guns and rifles – in the gardens.”
Police tramped through makeshift camps in Jackson and Josephine counties this summer, confiscating SKS military rifles,
Tec-22 semiautomatic pistols and thousands of rounds of ammunition. While Mexican drug gangs account for 5 percent of
the pot growers arrested in southern Oregon in recent years, they produce most of the marijuana grown in the region
because of the size of their plantings, Brown said. “They're huge,” said Brown, whose jurisdiction sprawls over more
than 5,000 square miles. Mexican gangs have set up camps around gardens containing 2,000 to more than 20,000 plants, he
said. This month, county and federal authorities spent three days pulling up 16 immense marijuana gardens in Jackson
County, a haul of 33,000 plants worth an estimated $120 million. Five Mexican nationals were arrested. The Jackson
County Sheriff's Department reported this week that it has confiscated nearly 45,000 plants this year, 99 percent of
which came from Mexican gardens. --== May The Angst Be With You! ==-- -Yoda, on a bad day
-- http://diversify.com Ending Your Web Page Angst.
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View entire thread: OT: Cheney on Meet the Press
Posted by Michael A. Terrell on Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:39 AM Post subject: Re: Cheney on Meet the Press
Too_Many_Tools wrote: [quote:1b131c0446] They wanted a free ride for their families using local services while others
picked up their tabs? [/quote:1b131c0446] Idiot. [quote:1b131c0446]Paying your fair share of taxes is as much a
patriotic duty as serving in the military. [/quote:1b131c0446] Don't try to put words in my mouth. Most married
soldiers had their families with them, or if they were in Vietnam, they lived on, or near the last US base the soldier
served at. Some of the wives and kids stayed with his or her parents while a soldier was overseas. I didn't know of
one family doing what you're claiming. A lot of the younger GI's had no wife or kids, were no where near Ohio, but were
expected to pay tax there, and sometimes in the state they were stationed in. This was in the early '70s when you were
paid well under minimum wage while you served. My income was cut by more than half, without the taxes. During that
time, the business I had to padlock and walk away from dropped in value from about $20,000 to less than $50 of salvable
items, two years later. I lost more from the closed business than i was paid, while in the service. Any more head
up your ass comments you'd like to add? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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View entire thread: OT: Cheney on Meet the Press
Posted by Too_Many_Tools on Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:17 AM Post subject: Re: Cheney on Meet the Press
"Any more head up your ass comments you'd like to add?" No, you seem to do very well on your own in that
respect. My comments were a question and a fact...if you have a problem with those then I cannot help you...seek
assistance elsewhere. Over the years, I have seen states try to grab revenue under dubious conditions and I have seen
military personnel freeload at the expense of the local taxpayers. In other words, the problem(s) can come from either
camp. Sorry to hear you got caught in a business downturn....you aren't the only one it has happened to. Keep
trying....success is a elusive mistress...and good luck. TMT Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[quote:807bd77bfe]Too_Many_Tools wrote: They wanted a free ride for their families using local services while others
picked up their tabs? Idiot. Paying your fair share of taxes is as much a patriotic duty as serving in the military.
Don't try to put words in my mouth. Most married soldiers had their families with them, or if they were in Vietnam,
they lived on, or near the last US base the soldier served at. Some of the wives and kids stayed with his or her
parents while a soldier was overseas. I didn't know of one family doing what you're claiming. A lot of the younger
GI's had no wife or kids, were no where near Ohio, but were expected to pay tax there, and sometimes in the state they
were stationed in. This was in the early '70s when you were paid well under minimum wage while you served. My income
was cut by more than half, without the taxes. During that time, the business I had to padlock and walk away from dropped
in value from about $20,000 to less than $50 of salvable items, two years later. I lost more from the closed business
than i was paid, while in the service. Any more head up your ass comments you'd like to add? -- Service to my
country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central
Florida[/quote:807bd77bfe]
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View entire thread: OT: Cheney on Meet the Press
Posted by John Husvar on Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:23 AM Post subject: Re: Cheney on Meet the Press
In article <1158369428.991350.136930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "Too_Many_Tools"
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote: [quote:73732b58d8]"Any more head up your ass comments you'd like to
add?" No, you seem to do very well on your own in that respect. [/quote:73732b58d8] TMT, you've gone on too long
excoriating people who have any semblance of a sense of patriotism, duty, honor, or decency. You're the epitome of
Spiro Agnew's "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity." So I'll say my piece to you and then cordially invite you to
go fuck yourself, since, apparently, you need no one else for anything. He's a long way from catching up with you in
head/ass insertion-depth Dept. [quote:73732b58d8] My comments were a question and a fact...if you have a problem with
those then I cannot help you...seek assistance elsewhere. Over the years, I have seen states try to grab revenue under
dubious conditions and I have seen military personnel freeload at the expense of the local taxpayers.
[/quote:73732b58d8] There is little the country could do for active service personnel and their families that would be
excessive. They put themselves between the nation and whatever threatens it. Sometimes they do so rightly, sometimes
wrongly. They, the boots on the ground, don't get to make those decisions, but still they serve. The very idea it's
somehow right for active military to pay _any_ taxes is egregious disrespect and should have been instant political
suicide for whatever dastardly politicians effected it. Those _citizens_ are giving far more than their fair share.
Freeload? Freeload! Get down on your knees and kiss the ground that soldier walks on, you gormless scrap of human
refuse! Freeload? You should be drenched in the saliva and urine of your betters -- and they are legion -- except
they _are_ your betters and wouldn't be so boorish as to imitate you, even metaphorically! A skidrow drug addict
lying drenched in his own piss shows more citizenship than you. Just what have _you_ ever done for anybody or anything
but your own smartassed, self-righteous, self-interest? Where's _your_ DD214? I, too, know where mine is and I'm
damned proud of it. I'd call you slime mold, but one-celled organisms at least serve some purpose in the world. All
you serve, apparently, is yourself. It sickens me such as yourself continue to spew their invective across the world,
but that's one of the freedoms men twice as good, decent, and honorable as you served, fought, and/or died to try to
preserve. I'd consign you to Hell, but even Satan has standards. [quote:73732b58d8] In other words, the problem(s) can
come from either camp. Sorry to hear you got caught in a business downturn....you aren't the only one it has happened
to. Keep trying....success is a elusive mistress...and good luck. TMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote:
They wanted a free ride for their families using local services while others picked up their tabs? Idiot. Paying
your fair share of taxes is as much a patriotic duty as serving in the military. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
Most married soldiers had their families with them, or if they were in Vietnam, they lived on, or near the last US base
the soldier served at. Some of the wives and kids stayed with his or her parents while a soldier was overseas. I
didn't know of one family doing what you're claiming. A lot of the younger GI's had no wife or kids, were no where near
Ohio, but were expected to pay tax there, and sometimes in the state they were stationed in. This was in the early '70s
when you were paid well under minimum wage while you served. My income was cut by more than half, without the taxes.
During that time, the business I had to padlock and walk away from dropped in value from about $20,000 to less than $50
of salvable items, two years later. I lost more from the closed business than i was paid, while in the service. Any
more head up your ass comments you'd like to add? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my
DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida [/quote:73732b58d8] -- Bring back, Oh bring
back Oh, bring back that old continuity. Bring back, oh, bring back Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me.
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View entire thread: OT: Cheney on Meet the Press
Posted by Hawke on Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:09 AM Post subject: Re: Cheney on Meet the Press
"John Husvar" <jhusvar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:jhusvar-
C619D9.23231315092006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com... [quote:c3b6821ce0]In article
<1158369428.991350.136930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "Too_Many_Tools"
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote: "Any more head up your ass comments you'd like to add?" No, you seem
to do very well on your own in that respect. TMT, you've gone on too long excoriating people who have any semblance of
a sense of patriotism, duty, honor, or decency. You're the epitome of Spiro Agnew's "Nattering Nabobs of
Negativity." So I'll say my piece to you and then cordially invite you to go fuck yourself, since, apparently, you
need no one else for anything. He's a long way from catching up with you in head/ass insertion-depth Dept. My
comments were a question and a fact...if you have a problem with those then I cannot help you...seek assistance
elsewhere. Over the years, I have seen states try to grab revenue under dubious conditions and I have seen military
personnel freeload at the expense of the local taxpayers. There is little the country could do for active service
personnel and their families that would be excessive. They put themselves between the nation and whatever threatens it.
Sometimes they do so rightly, sometimes wrongly. They, the boots on the ground, don't get to make those decisions, but
still they serve. The very idea it's somehow right for active military to pay _any_ taxes is egregious disrespect and
should have been instant political suicide for whatever dastardly politicians effected it. Those _citizens_ are giving
far more than their fair share. Freeload? Freeload! Get down on your knees and kiss the ground that soldier walks on,
you gormless scrap of human refuse! Freeload? You should be drenched in the saliva and urine of your betters -- and
they are legion -- except they _are_ your betters and wouldn't be so boorish as to imitate you, even metaphorically! A
skidrow drug addict lying drenched in his own piss shows more citizenship than you. Just what have _you_ ever done for
anybody or anything but your own smartassed, self-righteous, self-interest? Where's _your_ DD214? I, too, know where
mine is and I'm damned proud of it. I'd call you slime mold, but one-celled organisms at least serve some purpose in
the world. All you serve, apparently, is yourself. It sickens me such as yourself continue to spew their invective
across the world, but that's one of the freedoms men twice as good, decent, and honorable as you served, fought, and/or
died to try to preserve. I'd consign you to Hell, but even Satan has standards. In other words, the problem(s) can
come from either camp. Sorry to hear you got caught in a business downturn....you aren't the only one it has happened
to. Keep trying....success is a elusive mistress...and good luck. TMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote:
They wanted a free ride for their families using local services while others picked up their tabs? Idiot. Paying
your fair share of taxes is as much a patriotic duty as serving in the military. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
Most married soldiers had their families with them, or if they were in Vietnam, they lived on, or near the last US base
the soldier served at. Some of the wives and kids stayed with his or her parents while a soldier was overseas. I
didn't know of one family doing what you're claiming. A lot of the younger GI's had no wife or kids, were no where near
Ohio, but were expected to pay tax there, and sometimes in the state they were stationed in. This was in the early '70s
when you were paid well under minimum wage while you served. My income was cut by more than half, without the taxes.
During that time, the business I had to padlock and walk away from dropped in value from about $20,000 to less than $50
of salvable items, two years later. I lost more from the closed business than i was paid, while in the service. Any
more head up your ass comments you'd like to add? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my
DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida -- Bring back, Oh bring back Oh, bring back
that old continuity. Bring back, oh, bring back Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me. [/quote:c3b6821ce0] I thought all
the duty, honor, country, suckers learned their lesson during Vietnam, obviously not. A whole new generation of ignorant
young men are once again extolling the virtues of "service" and "duty" to their nation. Too bad they
will all have to learn the hard way what the veterans of other wars have, that our government uses them for the wrong,
and far less than patriotic reasons, and then discards them when they no longer need them. The same thing will happen to
the new rubes who are hearing the same propaganda we heard in the 60s and 70s. The slogans that drive silly young men
to give up their lives and limbs for no good reason work just as well as they always have. Iraq was a war chosen by men
who ran from the fight when it was their turn. Now they are asking others to serve in a cause that serves only the
elites. I'm just sorry to be hearing the same old lines that were discredited in the past get dredged up again and work
so effectively. All I can say is that anyone who goes along with the current president's plans and "serves" is
not doing any good deed or helping America. He's really only helping to make the world worse off than it already is.
Without the foolhardy young followers who give up everything for people who don't deserve to shine their shoes we
wouldn't have this war, and 22,000 casualties would not have been added to the list of young people who's lives have
been destroyed. So to those who sing the patriotic songs and are still following Bush I say: you'll be sorry, suckers.
Hawke
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View entire thread: OT: Cheney on Meet the Press
Posted by Too_Many_Tools on Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:06 AM Post subject: Re: Cheney on Meet the Press
Well said...those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat the mistakes. TMT Hawke wrote:
[quote:7f78133526]"John Husvar" <jhusvar@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:jhusvar-
C619D9.23231315092006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com... In article
<1158369428.991350.136930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, "Too_Many_Tools"
<too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote: "Any more head up your ass comments you'd like to add?" No, you seem
to do very well on your own in that respect. TMT, you've gone on too long excoriating people who have any semblance of
a sense of patriotism, duty, honor, or decency. You're the epitome of Spiro Agnew's "Nattering Nabobs of
Negativity." So I'll say my piece to you and then cordially invite you to go fuck yourself, since, apparently, you
need no one else for anything. He's a long way from catching up with you in head/ass insertion-depth Dept. My
comments were a question and a fact...if you have a problem with those then I cannot help you...seek assistance
elsewhere. Over the years, I have seen states try to grab revenue under dubious conditions and I have seen military
personnel freeload at the expense of the local taxpayers. There is little the country could do for active service
personnel and their families that would be excessive. They put themselves between the nation and whatever threatens it.
Sometimes they do so rightly, sometimes wrongly. They, the boots on the ground, don't get to make those decisions, but
still they serve. The very idea it's somehow right for active military to pay _any_ taxes is egregious disrespect and
should have been instant political suicide for whatever dastardly politicians effected it. Those _citizens_ are giving
far more than their fair share. Freeload? Freeload! Get down on your knees and kiss the ground that soldier walks on,
you gormless scrap of human refuse! Freeload? You should be drenched in the saliva and urine of your betters -- and
they are legion -- except they _are_ your betters and wouldn't be so boorish as to imitate you, even metaphorically! A
skidrow drug addict lying drenched in his own piss shows more citizenship than you. Just what have _you_ ever done for
anybody or anything but your own smartassed, self-righteous, self-interest? Where's _your_ DD214? I, too, know where
mine is and I'm damned proud of it. I'd call you slime mold, but one-celled organisms at least serve some purpose in
the world. All you serve, apparently, is yourself. It sickens me such as yourself continue to spew their invective
across the world, but that's one of the freedoms men twice as good, decent, and honorable as you served, fought, and/or
died to try to preserve. I'd consign you to Hell, but even Satan has standards. In other words, the problem(s) can
come from either camp. Sorry to hear you got caught in a business downturn....you aren't the only one it has happened
to. Keep trying....success is a elusive mistress...and good luck. TMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: Too_Many_Tools wrote:
They wanted a free ride for their families using local services while others picked up their tabs? Idiot. Paying
your fair share of taxes is as much a patriotic duty as serving in the military. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
Most married soldiers had their families with them, or if they were in Vietnam, they lived on, or near the last US base
the soldier served at. Some of the wives and kids stayed with his or her parents while a soldier was overseas. I
didn't know of one family doing what you're claiming. A lot of the younger GI's had no wife or kids, were no where near
Ohio, but were expected to pay tax there, and sometimes in the state they were stationed in. This was in the early '70s
when you were paid well under minimum wage while you served. My income was cut by more than half, without the taxes.
During that time, the business I had to padlock and walk away from dropped in value from about $20,000 to less than $50
of salvable items, two years later. I lost more from the closed business than i was paid, while in the service. Any
more head up your ass comments you'd like to add? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my
DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida -- Bring back, Oh bring back Oh, bring back
that old continuity. Bring back, oh, bring back Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to me. I thought all the duty, honor,
country, suckers learned their lesson during Vietnam, obviously not. A whole new generation of ignorant young men are
once again extolling the virtues of "service" and "duty" to their nation. Too bad they will all have
to learn the hard way what the veterans of other wars have, that our government uses them for the wrong, and far less
than patriotic reasons, and then discards them when they no longer need them. The same thing will happen to the new
rubes who are hearing the same propaganda we heard in the 60s and 70s. The slogans that drive silly young men to give
up their lives and limbs for no good reason work just as well as they always have. Iraq was a war chosen by men who ran
from the fight when it was their turn. Now they are asking others to serve in a cause that serves only the elites. I'm
just sorry to be hearing the same old lines that were discredited in the past get dredged up again and work so
effectively. All I can say is that anyone who goes along with the current president's plans and "serves" is
not doing any good deed or helping America. He's really only helping to make the world worse off than it already is.
Without the foolhardy young followers who give up everything for people who don't deserve to shine their shoes we
wouldn't have this war, and 22,000 casualties would not have been added to the list of young people who's lives have
been destroyed. So to those who sing the patriotic songs and are still following Bush I say: you'll be sorry, suckers.
Hawke[/quote:7f78133526]
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View entire thread: OT: Cheney on Meet the Press
Posted by Too_Many_Tools on Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:21 AM Post subject: Re: Cheney on Meet the Press
"...after John's long and repeated head/ass insertion exercise for the benefit of the group" Thanks for
proving my point...it is so hard these days to find anyone who will admit to being a military freeloader....they would
rather wrap themselves in the Flag and curse those who point out the obvious...Oops...I guess that is what you just did,
isn't it? Paying one's taxes is a patriotic duty which is just as important as answering the call to serve. Just
because you or I have served does not give us a free ride through society for the rest of our lives. Those who believe
it does are parasites on society....and they number in the millions. If you still feel that you need to chew someone's
butt off, why don't you start with the Commander in Chief who has been screwing every American over for his own benefit?
TMT John Husvar wrote: [quote:bd7fc765d6]In article <1158369428.991350.136930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote: "Any more head up your ass comments you'd like
to add?" No, you seem to do very well on your own in that respect. TMT, you've gone on too long excoriating
people who have any semblance of a sense of patriotism, duty, honor, or decency. You're the epitome of Spiro Agnew's
"Nattering Nabobs of Negativity." So I'll say my piece to you and then cordially invite you to go fuck
yourself, since, apparently, you need no one else for anything. He's a long way from catching up with you in head/ass
insertion-depth Dept. My comments were a question and a fact...if you have a problem with those then I cannot help
you...seek assistance elsewhere. Over the years, I have seen states try to grab revenue under dubious conditions and I
have seen military personnel freeload at the expense of the local taxpayers. There is little the country could do for
active service personnel and their families that would be excessive. They put themselves between the nation and whatever
threatens it. Sometimes they do so rightly, sometimes wrongly. They, the boots on the ground, don't get to make those
decisions, but still they serve. The very idea it's somehow right for active military to pay _any_ taxes is egregious
disrespect and should have been instant political suicide for whatever dastardly politicians effected it. Those
_citizens_ are giving far more than their fair share. Freeload? Freeload! Get down on your knees and kiss the ground
that soldier walks on, you gormless scrap of human refuse! Freeload? You should be drenched in the saliva and urine of
your betters -- and they are legion -- except they _are_ your betters and wouldn't be so boorish as to imitate you, even
metaphorically! A skidrow drug addict lying drenched in his own piss shows more citizenship than you. Just what have
_you_ ever done for anybody or anything but your own smartassed, self-righteous, self-interest? Where's _your_ DD214?
I, too, know where mine is and I'm damned proud of it. I'd call you slime mold, but one-celled organisms at least serve
some purpose in the world. All you serve, apparently, is yourself. It sickens me such as yourself continue to spew
their invective across the world, but that's one of the freedoms men twice as good, decent, and honorable as you served,
fought, and/or died to try to preserve. I'd consign you to Hell, but even Satan has standards. In other words, the
problem(s) can come from either camp. Sorry to hear you got caught in a business downturn....you aren't the only one it
has happened to. Keep trying....success is a elusive mistress...and good luck. TMT Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote: They wanted a free ride for their families using local services while others picked up their
tabs? Idiot. Paying your fair share of taxes is as much a patriotic duty as serving in the military. Don't try to
put words in my mouth. Most married soldiers had their families with them, or if they were in Vietnam, they lived on,
or near the last US base the soldier served at. Some of the wives and kids stayed with his or her parents while a
soldier was overseas. I didn't know of one family doing what you're claiming. A lot of the younger GI's had no wife or
kids, were no where near Ohio, but were expected to pay tax there, and sometimes in the state they were stationed in.
This was in the early '70s when you were paid well under minimum wage while you served. My income was cut by more than
half, without the taxes. During that time, the business I had to padlock and walk away from dropped in value from about
$20,000 to less than $50 of salvable items, two years later. I lost more from the closed business than i was paid,
while in the service. Any more head up your ass comments you'd like to add? -- Service to my country? Been there,
Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida -- Bring back, Oh
bring back Oh, bring back that old continuity. Bring back, oh, bring back Oh, bring back Clerk Maxwell to
me.[/quote:bd7fc765d6]
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View entire thread: OT: He's in the Army now!!
Posted by kenda on Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:10 PM Post subject: Re: OT: He's in the Army now!!
I am very proud of him too Dave! More so with all the termoil in the world. He has always wanted to go into the
military, ever since he could talk! LOL He has recently decided on the MP. And yes training will be in MO. DH doesn't
realize that I plan to go and visit him on a regular basis! Guess that means we will need to get a more econimical
vehicle....but that's okay too. DS is now ready for school to start so he can get it over with..... -- Kenda (remove
NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums:
1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's
visit) Quilts: 6 "OKC Dave" <The2ndspiketoo@webtv.net> wrote in message news:659-44DCF800-100@
storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... [quote:10fb992276]Oh WOW!! I am very proud of him for wanting to volunteer to proudly
serve our great country. Going in as a MP will have lots of leads to gettig a good job after he gets out, if he does!!
Oh, I guess that is if you want or have no reervations for loved ones being police. His trining will more than likely
be up at Lost in the Woods, Misery - LOL! so will notbe all that far from home you can make weekend visits when he can
have passes!! That is where the MP school is anyhow. ((BIG HUGS for all!!)) OKC Dave Check out my pix and crafts!
http://community.webshots.com/user/dspiketoo [/quote:10fb992276]
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View entire thread: OT: He's in the Army now!!
Posted by kenda on Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:15 PM Post subject: Re: He's in the Army now!!
He has thought about this for a very loooong time. He did alot of research carefully checked out the job descriptions,
talked to former military personnel before deciding which branch he wanted. -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6
"Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:alcDg.9383$FN2.3909@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... [quote:aa22d00a41]You should be very proud of him. He's really
thought this through, which is something most teens don't do...think things through. I know the past several weeks have
been trying, but he'll come through all this and for the better. My brother went in the Army National Gaurd shortly
after high school, and says it was the best thing that ever happened to him. I know you guys will treasure all the
special moments over the next year! -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
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= 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8dGdnRftD4d9aUHZnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@comcast.com... Well, DS#1 is offically in the Army under the delayed entry
program. I have to say that I'm very proud of him for doing what he has wanted to do for as long as I can remember.
Especially with the way things are in the world today. I had extreme reservations about signing him in, HOWEVER, he
would just do it in 4 months when he turns 18 and there is a chance that in 4 months the job he wanted would not be
open, at least for the next class after bootcamp. Sooo, DH and I signed the papers and he took another physical,
passing this time as no physical oddities that showed up this time! LOL He then went to pick his MOS and told them he
wanted M.P. and not to show him anything else. He came home all smiles and very pleased. Now as Azzy says I hope this
next year goes slower than most. Nick leaves for boot camp on June 20th 2007, right after bootcamp he goes for 10 weeks
of training for M.P. I'm excited for him but sad as I'm scared for him, just knowing how scary it can be to make that
first adult world adventure. Thanks for letting me brag on my first baby. -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:aa22d00a41]
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View entire thread: OT: He's in the Army now!!
Posted by kenda on Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:23 PM Post subject: Re: OT: He's in the Army now!!
I have to say that I was very pleased that he took the time to research and ask questions of former military to decided
where he wanted to go. I does take maturity and I must say that he has always been very mature for his age. LOL on the
volunteer fire dept. It will be okay!! -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
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for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6
"Linda C" <lindacurley63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155423234.446053.36980@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:5f4d9ece2b]Kenda I'm glad that he did the research
first and got the branch he wanted. A lot of kids dont have the maturity to really think it through before they decide
to join, and end up not liking where they are at. I know you must be so proud of him! I remember when my DS#1 came home
from 7th grade, and said the recruiters were at school that day, and he told me that he was joining the Army when he
graduated! I was open-mouthed....like..WHAT did you say??? I told him to wait until his senior year and see if he
changed his mind any. He now has, but instead wants to be a welder and join the volunteer fire dept. I dont think the
Army is a bad thing, it's just that in this day of war..gosh...its so scary to think of our babies possibly being
overseas. I wish the very best for him!!! :-) Linda kenda wrote: Well, DS#1 is offically in the Army under the delayed
entry program. I have to say that I'm very proud of him for doing what he has wanted to do for as long as I can
remember. Especially with the way things are in the world today. I had extreme reservations about signing him in,
HOWEVER, he would just do it in 4 months when he turns 18 and there is a chance that in 4 months the job he wanted would
not be open, at least for the next class after bootcamp. Sooo, DH and I signed the papers and he took another physical,
passing this time as no physical oddities that showed up this time! LOL He then went to pick his MOS and told them he
wanted M.P. and not to show him anything else. He came home all smiles and very pleased. Now as Azzy says I hope this
next year goes slower than most. Nick leaves for boot camp on June 20th 2007, right after bootcamp he goes for 10 weeks
of training for M.P. I'm excited for him but sad as I'm scared for him, just knowing how scary it can be to make that
first adult world adventure. Thanks for letting me brag on my first baby. -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:5f4d9ece2b]
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View entire thread: Replace Album Binding?
Posted by kenda on Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:52 AM Post subject: Re: Replace Album Binding?
Heehee, I was just telling my parents this morning that I wanted to find some of that tape they use in Nascar. You know
it's big sheets of it. My mother suggested I write one of the drivers a love letter then at the end put a "P.S.
Could I get some of the tape your guys use when you wreck your car and you're trying to stay in the race?" Wonder
if that would work??? -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in
2006: 37 cards in 2006: 179 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL)
1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 "OKC Dave" <The2ndspiketoo@webtv.net> wrote in message news:
29710-44DFB2B2-381@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... [quote:f4071aeeff]It ain't or won't be like the original - WAAA!!
DOH, (whacking self), ya'll are such great help and making my own with some great tape LIKE duck tape that we use in the
entertainment business may work. It is like hundred mile hour tape in the military but what we have is called gaff tape.
Really tough, durable and strong! TFS 113 for 06 16 for job 3 cards OKC Dave Check out my pix and crafts!
http://community.webshots.com/user/dspiketoo [/quote:f4071aeeff]
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View entire thread: OT - Stuff for soldiers
Posted by off kilter quilter on Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:45 PM Post subject: Soldiers Angels
No, I didn't mark this Off Topic, because it involves quilts/blankets. I recently received an email from the head
coordinator of this organization. They stuff backpacks full of things for injured soldiers that are being transported
to military hospitals aboard "sewer pipes with wings" (a quote of a veteran in my church). Here are the
guidelines: 1. Size: 36/45" wide by 45/50" long. 2. Fabrics: fleece, knitted/crocheted, or quilted
cotton/flannel with batting. If using double sided fleece, please finish the edges. If using single sided fleece,
please back with another fabric. If using purchased fleece blankets, please personalize with buttons, appliqué, etc.
If you are doing something with batting you can tack with embroidery thread or buttons to keep the batting in place
instead of quilting. 3. Colors: Most recipients are men. Bright/patriotic colors are good. 4. Finish off: Roll each
one, tie with a ribbon, and tag with a note: "Made with love and hope for your recovery by (your name) from
Soldiers’ Angels". You may want to include your email address. 5. HAVE FUN!!! This is an ongoing project! THANK
YOU for your support of our wounded and ill soldiers. www.soldiersangels.com blankets of hope link will give you
anything else you need to know and will show you what the backpacks look like. So.....if any of you want to help out
and use up fabrics that you have no other use for, PLEASE do so!! I can give you the current address that is
accepting the blankets as they are in urgent need, or you can send them to me and I will get a massive box ready to go.
Larisa, proud wife of a Navy veteran, SIL to another, daughter and grand-daughter of Army Veterans, and niece to both
an Air Force veteran (deceased) and a Marine veteran
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View entire thread: Quilt shops in Oklahoma?
Posted by Karen Garza on Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:45 PM Post subject: Re: Quilt shops in Oklahoma?
Thanks KJ I guess I should be used to this by now. I'm a military wife. My husband has been in the Air Force for 17
years. Karen "KJ" <KJoger@NOSPAMmchsi.com> wrote in message news:u%wsg.73084$1i1.17991@attbi_s72...
[quote:00199a6321]Living in the wide open spaces has its advantages and disadvantages. Clean air, shorter job commutes
vs. long distances between quilt shops and no friends to road trip with yet. Bummer. Keep trying and you'll hook up
with someone with your interests. I've heard (and experienced) that it takes about two years to get comfortable after a
move. Good luck! You have this cyberguild to hang with in the meantime. KJ[/quote:00199a6321]
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View entire thread: Quilt shops in Oklahoma?
Posted by KJ on Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:48 PM Post subject: Re: Quilt shops in Oklahoma?
Ah well then. You know much more about it than I do! Though there are times when it all becomes wearing. I had some
moments of "I want my old life back" after we moved. Now "I want my old body back!!" is my cry. KJ
"Karen Garza" <dkgarza@pldi.net> wrote in message news:12b9rn86embk627@corp.supernews.com...
[quote:0e91bae04e]Thanks KJ I guess I should be used to this by now. I'm a military wife. My husband has been in the Air
Force for 17 years. Karen "KJ" <KJoger@NOSPAMmchsi.com> wrote in message
news:u%wsg.73084$1i1.17991@attbi_s72... Living in the wide open spaces has its advantages and disadvantages. Clean air,
shorter job commutes vs. long distances between quilt shops and no friends to road trip with yet. Bummer. Keep trying
and you'll hook up with someone with your interests. I've heard (and experienced) that it takes about two years to get
comfortable after a move. Good luck! You have this cyberguild to hang with in the meantime. KJ [/quote:0e91bae04e]
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View entire thread: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Posted by kenda on Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:53 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
So glad I could help! I can't wait to hear when she has her baby!!! Oh, I'd like to get her address to send her a card
when I find out when she's had her! With the cards I've been making I've made 4 of each. One for me and one for each
of the tins I'm giving away. That has helped in being able to send cards as you say, at the drop of a hat. -- Kenda
(remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini
albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o
niece's visit) Quilts: 6 "Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:79Sng.123456$dW3.50549@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... [quote:9dc7ef7b3b]Wow! Everybody is definately in a creative
streak. As for me, I have projects in mind that I want to start ASAP. (Hopefully next week!) I've been wanting to do
sister albums for my sis & sis-in-law. I haven't started on them because I just don't have the pictures I want.
But Kenda and her discussion of her brother/niece album gave me an idea. Rather than waiting until I have the right
pics, I'm going to put a mat on the page, with a short explanation of what kind of pic, i.e., "Auntie Di with
kids", etc. So now that I have that settled, my plan is to have them done for Christmas. I can't wait to get
started on our Mexico album! With as much pics and journaling as we'll have, it's definately going to be a 12 x 12.
Definately going to need more paper though. LOL I also need to get started on DH's cousin's ABC book for her baby.
The baby is due in November, and she's supposed to find out if it's a boy or girl this month, or was that next month? I
can't remember. But as soon as I know, I'm starting on it. I have both girl & boy charms, pink & blue alpha
brads, and a boy/girl stamp set. So it's just a matter of finding out if it's a boy or girl. Oh...and deciding on my
ABC parts from all the useful links from Lynne. Of course, I also have cards I want to do. My goal is to be able to
send/give cards at the drop of a hat. Haven't done that lately. LOL Except for the baby card I made for a gal at
church. No baby yet, but the doctor didn't think she would make it through the weekend without going into labor. We're
all waiting for this little one, and not very patiently, either. LOL But DH picked up a little bitty Mexican dress in
Juarez for this little one and we wanted her to have it to wear when she arrives. So I just HAD to make a card!
(Darn...I didn't want to make a card. It was rough taking time out from planning and unpacking to do that. LOL) Of
course, I have some major unpacking to do in this house. The kids' dressers are still in the hallway. LOL Plus some
major reorganization of my craft room, and the kids' rooms. So much to do, so little time! -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat
at heart! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages
complete 2006 = 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as
Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it. I have done some
scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook
when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip
we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet
minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to.
I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1
and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we
weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the
time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try
them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2.
SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove
NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1
(Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6
[/quote:9dc7ef7b3b]
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Posted by Deb in AR on Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:27 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Wow! Everybody is definately in a creative streak. As for me, I have projects in mind that I want to start ASAP.
(Hopefully next week!) I've been wanting to do sister albums for my sis & sis-in-law. I haven't started on them
because I just don't have the pictures I want. But Kenda and her discussion of her brother/niece album gave me an
idea. Rather than waiting until I have the right pics, I'm going to put a mat on the page, with a short explanation
of what kind of pic, i.e., "Auntie Di with kids", etc. So now that I have that settled, my plan is to have
them done for Christmas. I can't wait to get started on our Mexico album! With as much pics and journaling as we'll
have, it's definately going to be a 12 x 12. Definately going to need more paper though. LOL I also need to get
started on DH's cousin's ABC book for her baby. The baby is due in November, and she's supposed to find out if it's a
boy or girl this month, or was that next month? I can't remember. But as soon as I know, I'm starting on it. I have
both girl & boy charms, pink & blue alpha brads, and a boy/girl stamp set. So it's just a matter of finding
out if it's a boy or girl. Oh...and deciding on my ABC parts from all the useful links from Lynne. Of course, I also
have cards I want to do. My goal is to be able to send/give cards at the drop of a hat. Haven't done that lately.
LOL Except for the baby card I made for a gal at church. No baby yet, but the doctor didn't think she would make it
through the weekend without going into labor. We're all waiting for this little one, and not very patiently, either.
LOL But DH picked up a little bitty Mexican dress in Juarez for this little one and we wanted her to have it to wear
when she arrives. So I just HAD to make a card! (Darn...I didn't want to make a card. It was rough taking time out
from planning and unpacking to do that. LOL) Of course, I have some major unpacking to do in this house. The kids'
dressers are still in the hallway. LOL Plus some major reorganization of my craft room, and the kids' rooms. So much
to do, so little time! -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006
= 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:1a5d6f4eb2]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch
pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it.
I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on
my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3
years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we
will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make
things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more
often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the
shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done
when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am
anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1.
cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??)
-- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006:
90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit)
Quilts: 6 [/quote:1a5d6f4eb2]
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Posted by Helen on Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:12 AM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Kenda, This week I've been working so hard on completing a graduation present for my daughter (she's out of town on her
senior trip with a friend to CA.). It is a scrapbook of her first 18 years. Boy has it been a project. Good thing I
sorted and scanned most of the pictures when my older daughter graduated 2 years ago. So I had that ready to go. Then
about a year ago I've sorted them out and into categories for pages. Wish me luck! I'll need it in the next week. Her
party is Sunday July 2nd. I've completed my cards for the ATC swap and need to mail those off by tomorrow. So I've
been busy. Today it was in the 90's...and I think I'm melting. Just got home from a local scrapbooking store in the
valley and my auto thermometer said 99 degrees. Helen (Burien, WA) kenda wrote: [quote:29cd29cd83]I have been making
cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done.
Just a few more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some
papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow
Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended
last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did
some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier
access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday
afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will
scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been
gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a
swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's
4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
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Posted by kenda on Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:40 AM Post subject: What project/projects are you currently working on?
I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards.
I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet
pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to
work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp
he attended last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these
things. I did some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to
have easier access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru
Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I
will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been
gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a
swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's
4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
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Posted by King's Crown on Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:01 AM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
I'm working on * the title swap. Already have one done as the example for the rest. * did 3 pages for the barn get
together album yesterday. Many more to do though * Making a license plate title from idea I got yesterday. Have the
word picked out and the design in my head. * got the rest of the materials to make my seashell earring holder. Lynne
"kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:a9fc8e42b5]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch
pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it.
I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on
my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3
years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we
will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make
things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more
often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the
shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done
when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am
anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1.
cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??)
-- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006:
90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit)
Quilts: 6 [/quote:a9fc8e42b5]
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Posted by scrappymissjacqui on Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:47 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
I always have something going on. We pulled the carpet out of Sam's room because it was giving him pinkeye from his
allergies. So, our next item is flooring. Pete is just about done with the pavillion we put in the back yard. It is a
large 12X18 and it is so much cooler under there than in the yard. My garden has been keeping me busy. Logan picked the
1st cantaloupe out of it yesterday--but it wasn't anywhere near ready. Zucchini is starting to come back after a fight
with powdery mildew. Oh and today I am re-organizing, rearranging and cleaning up the scraproom/office. Sam wants to
build a Knex roller coaster in here. It feels a lot better in here already, must be feng shui. As for scrapbook
projects, I have decided to just do what I am feeling at the time. The pages seem better that way, rather than forcing
myself to do a page in some sort of order. I think I will do a couple baseball pages today for Sam's book, I think I
will do all four years today. I will also work on my titles for the swap. I got the letters cut out last night. Jacqui
kenda wrote: [quote:07cb3eff99]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this
year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I
took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the
time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years
ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and
there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty
organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid
the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking
it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are
so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn
out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at
least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6[/quote:07cb3eff99]
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Posted by kenda on Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:29 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
I can't wait to see the end products of the title swap when everyone has recieved theirs! I wish I could have joined in
but I am so busy I was afraid I wouldn't be able to complete it on time. When you finish the license plate title could
you upload it for viewing? TIA! "King's Crown" <qoe@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:70nng.1944$ii.1789@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quote:ea317f4693]I'm working on * the title swap. Already
have one done as the example for the rest. * did 3 pages for the barn get together album yesterday. Many more to do
though * Making a license plate title from idea I got yesterday. Have the word picked out and the design in my head. *
got the rest of the materials to make my seashell earring holder. Lynne "kenda"
<kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... I have been
making cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly
done. Just a few more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures
and some papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work
tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he
attended last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things.
I did some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier
access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday
afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will
scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been
gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a
swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's
4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:ea317f4693]
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Posted by kenda on Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:48 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
I know that you took pictures of Logan with the 1st cantaloupe. What fun pictures to scrap, kids and gardening!
Sounds like your house keeps you busy, it's always something isn't it? -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
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"scrappymissjacqui" <jacqui.rogers@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151257647.117791.123670@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... [quote:efca03b968]I always have something going on. We
pulled the carpet out of Sam's room because it was giving him pinkeye from his allergies. So, our next item is
flooring. Pete is just about done with the pavillion we put in the back yard. It is a large 12X18 and it is so much
cooler under there than in the yard. My garden has been keeping me busy. Logan picked the 1st cantaloupe out of it
yesterday--but it wasn't anywhere near ready. Zucchini is starting to come back after a fight with powdery mildew. Oh
and today I am re-organizing, rearranging and cleaning up the scraproom/office. Sam wants to build a Knex roller
coaster in here. It feels a lot better in here already, must be feng shui. As for scrapbook projects, I have decided to
just do what I am feeling at the time. The pages seem better that way, rather than forcing myself to do a page in some
sort of order. I think I will do a couple baseball pages today for Sam's book, I think I will do all four years today.
I will also work on my titles for the swap. I got the letters cut out last night. Jacqui kenda wrote: I have been
making cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly
done. Just a few more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures
and some papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work
tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he
attended last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things.
I did some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier
access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday
afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will
scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been
gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a
swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's
4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:efca03b968]
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Posted by kenda on Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:59 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Wow, I've enjoyed reading about everyone's projects! It's definately gotten me feeling more creative. And I've been
feeling in a slump. So yesterday while I was at work I was able to get some pages done. I had put together "page
kits" so that forced me to use what I took. When I opened some of the kits I looked at the contents and said to
myself, "What were you thinking Kenda!!" LOL But I used the items anyway, force me to think creatively. I
was able to complete 10 pages!! We didn't make too many runs yesterday. After I packed up my stuff for the evening
that was when we got really busy. When I have the time I will get them scanned. -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
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"kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:090d629b67]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch
pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it.
I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on
my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3
years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we
will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make
things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more
often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the
shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done
when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am
anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1.
cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??)
-- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006:
90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit)
Quilts: 6 [/quote:090d629b67]
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Posted by Cathy on Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:26 AM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Well I haven't been in much of a scrapping mood lately. I don't know why, except maybe I'm feeling overwhelmed with all
that I want (need) to do. I am still working on (lets just say it's still a work in progress) the cruise album from
last summer. I have also done some cards and a two page layout for a contest I entered. I'm also working on my title
swap items. So much to do, so little time!! -- Cathy So. California http://photos.yahoo.com/rusks 2006 Pages: 37
Cards: 53 ACTs: 22 "kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:1e3967233f]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch
pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it.
I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on
my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3
years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we
will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make
things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more
often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the
shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done
when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am
anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1.
cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??)
-- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006:
90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit)
Quilts: 6 [/quote:1e3967233f]
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Posted by Hilda on Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:35 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
First am trying to upload all of my dig tapes of the family to pc so I can burn to disc, but am having a heck of a time
uploading. Then I'm redoing pages for an album about my life. Hilda "kenda"
<kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message news:R8adncki_MaAagDZnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com...
[quote:5afa86847e]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need
lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to
work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking
(tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer
military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work
on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but
needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom
Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted
pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are so busy around here!
I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to
participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago
3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:5afa86847e]
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Posted by Linda C on Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:01 PM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Well, lets see here...a few ongoing projects, a couple of finished projects, and few goals! I just finished and sent
off my ATC cards to Katrina yesterday! Thats one project down, a few more to go! I am in the middle of working on my
titles for the title swap, still have some work to do for the embellishments, and need a trip to HL to be able to do
that! Hope to get it all done in time! I have pics together and ideas in my head for a gift album for my friend at work
who is leaving after working there for 12 years. Her DH is in the Navy, has finished his training and schooling, and
just got his orders for Virginia Beach! I have GOT to get crackin' on that! Her last day at work is the 6th of July, but
they wont be moving until July 20th or so. I also have some notes jotted down, and ideas floating around for a project
I want to do for my DH (late fathers day present or maybe I can get it done for his birthday in September.) I want to
make a 3-D collage/shadowbox/memorabilia box, not sure what to call it..LOL Subject: his Dad, and his life. I want to
use old pics, newspaper articles, and his hobbies, like old antique cars, farming, woodworking, barbershop quartet
singing, things like that. I can see it in my head, but its hard to describe! That will be a major project, as I have to
sweet talk my own dad to make me the box to put it in, AND try to hide it all from DH. My scrap area is IN our bedroom!
I still have page kits put together, left over from what I didn't get done at the Barn! At least I have those to work
on for a quick scrappin' fix! I FINALLY finished my 6x6 album pages for the Barn! That thing is so THICK, I think I
used 3 post extenders! But I am glad THAT is done! I had a lot of trouble putting it all together, and I can't remember
HOW many times I had to take it apart (and cuss) and put it back together (and cuss) before I finally got it right. It
was late at night, and I was tired, thats my excuse! I would like to get some cards made up ahead of time, like Deb
mentioned, but I am always scrambling at the last minute to get one done for someone! I almost hate to buy a card
anymore, when I can make it And always on the back burner, my ongoing heritage album pages for me and my sisters books.
I was reading everyones replies to this subject, and I thought everyone else had so much to do, until I got to thinking
about my own projects..LOL Linda kenda wrote: [quote:e5a65783f2]I have been making cards, I am giving some lunch
pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few more should get it.
I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some papers/embellishments to work on
my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow Christmas pictures from the last 3
years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended last summer. I am hoping that we
will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did some minor reorganizing to make
things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier access to somethings I am using more
often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday afternoon. Tore everything out, except the
shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done
when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am
anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1.
cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's 4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??)
-- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006:
90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit)
Quilts: 6[/quote:e5a65783f2]
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Posted by Miss Jacqui on Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:50 AM Post subject: Re: What project/projects are you currently working on?
Always! I was on the phone with my mom and making dinner when Logan came in with the cantaloupe. So no pictures. I
have been bad about taking pictures lately. Jacqui "kenda" <kendaleeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in
message news:cbydnb8sxov6kj3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:4de28b89dd]I know that you took pictures of Logan
with the 1st cantaloupe. What fun pictures to scrap, kids and gardening! Sounds like your house keeps you busy, it's
always something isn't it? -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in
2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 (
for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 "scrappymissjacqui" <jacqui.rogers@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151257647.117791.123670@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... I always have something going on. We pulled the carpet
out of Sam's room because it was giving him pinkeye from his allergies. So, our next item is flooring. Pete is just
about done with the pavillion we put in the back yard. It is a large 12X18 and it is so much cooler under there than in
the yard. My garden has been keeping me busy. Logan picked the 1st cantaloupe out of it yesterday--but it wasn't
anywhere near ready. Zucchini is starting to come back after a fight with powdery mildew. Oh and today I am re-
organizing, rearranging and cleaning up the scraproom/office. Sam wants to build a Knex roller coaster in here. It
feels a lot better in here already, must be feng shui. As for scrapbook projects, I have decided to just do what I am
feeling at the time. The pages seem better that way, rather than forcing myself to do a page in some sort of order. I
think I will do a couple baseball pages today for Sam's book, I think I will do all four years today. I will also work
on my titles for the swap. I got the letters cut out last night. Jacqui kenda wrote: I have been making cards, I am
giving some lunch pail type cans as Christmas gifts this year so I need lots of cards. I'm nearly done. Just a few
more should get it. I have done some scrappin as well. I took a box to work with our pet pictures and some
papers/embellishments to work on my pet scrapbook when I have the time. I am taking (tomorrow) to work tomorrow
Christmas pictures from the last 3 years, the canoe trip we took 2 years ago, DS#1's summer military camp he attended
last summer. I am hoping that we will have a few quiet minutes here and there so I can work on these things. I did
some minor reorganizing to make things easier to get to. I'm pretty organized as it is, but needed to have easier
access to somethings I am using more often right now. DS #1 and I redid the masterbathroom Tuesday thru Thursday
afternoon. Tore everything out, except the shower stall it we weren't taking it out. I've posted pictures. I will
scan and post pictures of the layouts I've done when I have the time. Things are so busy around here! I have been
gathering things to make some fabric ATC's. I am anxious to try them, if they turn out I'd like to participate in a
swap. So in summery, currently working on: 1. cards for gifts 2. SB pages from at least 3 years ago 3. Fabric ATC's
4. Not going crazy! (where's the chocolate??) -- Kenda (remove NOSPAM to reply)
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 90 Mini albums: 1 (Wedding album
for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's visit) Quilts: 6 [/quote:4de28b89dd]
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Posted by kenda on Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:01 AM Post subject: Re: OT: Hello everyone!! WARNING: LONG
He does still want to join the military. In fact he's made several phone calls already! LOL The boy is determined!
Thankfully he still has 1 year left of high school. All this did was delay his boot camp by a year. Who knows, I keep
telling him, this may work out better than the orginal plan. (I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway) -- Kenda (remove
NOSPAM to reply) http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 pages in 2006: 25 cards in 2006: 82 Mini albums: 1
(Wedding album for exhusband and new wife! how weird it that? LOL) 1 ( for my 6 y/o niece's
visit) Quilts: 6 "Linda C" <lindacurley63@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150807011.112595.276590@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... [quote:746d8031b6]Welcome back Kenda! Congratulations on
your well deserved promotion! WOO HOO!! Yay for you!! I looked at all of your pictures, and they look good! You look
very happy! :-) I hope your son does well with his tests, and I am relieved they found out early enough to take care of
the problem! He is a lucky man! Will he still want to join the service after all of this? Glad to see ya back! Linda
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Posted by Jeff McCann on Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:41 AM Post subject: Re: OT - A well known Republican speaks out
<hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1154568157.070253.130760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
[quote:bbd67880d7] Day Brown wrote: hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com wrote: Cliff wrote: [ A well known Republican speaks
out This comes from Doug McIntyre. For those who are unfamiliar with McIntyre, he's a Conservative Republican radio
talk show host on KABC. He may be familiar like John McCain is familiar to most liberals. I've never heard of him.
That dont make him wrong, does it? It makes Doug less well known by one. But it probably adds up pretty fast making
him an unknown, which makes Cliff's assertion that he is well know, a lie. [/quote:bbd67880d7] He's the morning drive
time host on KABC, ABC's flagship station in L.A., and apparently draws a pretty good audience share.
[quote:bbd67880d7]Bush got where he is by slandering John McCain in So.Carolina's primary. I've never seen a clean
campaign. [/quote:bbd67880d7] I can't recall any recent presidential campaign that was quite as uniquely dirty as what
Bush did to McCain in South Carolina. His whispering campaign against McCain in the primary was a two-pronged attack.
First, in a blatant appeal to the worst sort of racism, was the allegation that McCain fathered an "illegitimate
black baby." The fact was that McCain and his wife adopted a Bangladeshi orphan girl. Second, attacking McCain's
horrific experience as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese, where he was offered early release but refused until his
compatriots were released, they alleged his time as a POW rendered him "mentally unstable." The fact is that
the POWs are the most comprehensively studied and tested, repeatedly over decades, population in military medicine, and,
as his released medical records show, McCain was eminently psychologically fit. Nixon's bungled break-in at the DNC
headquarters pales in comparison to the foul hatchet job done on McCain by Bush's black bag operatives. Jeff
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Jeff McCann wrote: [quote:635cd7a31f]hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154568157.070253.130760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... Day Brown wrote: hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com wrote:
Cliff wrote: [ A well known Republican speaks out This comes from Doug McIntyre. For those who are unfamiliar with
McIntyre, he's a Conservative Republican radio talk show host on KABC. He may be familiar like John McCain is familiar
to most liberals. I've never heard of him. That dont make him wrong, does it? It makes Doug less well known by one.
But it probably adds up pretty fast making him an unknown, which makes Cliff's assertion that he is well know, a lie.
He's the morning drive time host on KABC, ABC's flagship station in L.A., and apparently draws a pretty good audience
share. Bush got where he is by slandering John McCain in So.Carolina's primary. I've never seen a clean campaign. I
can't recall any recent presidential campaign that was quite as uniquely dirty as what Bush did to McCain in South
Carolina. His whispering campaign against McCain in the primary was a two-pronged attack. First, in a blatant appeal
to the worst sort of racism, was the allegation that McCain fathered an "illegitimate black baby."
[/quote:635cd7a31f] Are you sure that you're not confusing McCain with Clinton? or Jesse Jackson? Ever been sick and
stayed home from work for a day? Daytime TV will either make you sicker or get you up off the sofa and back to work.
"Illegitimate black babies" are all over Maury, Montel, Oprah, Springer, .... [quote:635cd7a31f]The fact was
that McCain and his wife adopted a Bangladeshi orphan girl. [/quote:635cd7a31f] OK. [quote:635cd7a31f]Second, attacking
McCain's horrific experience as a prisoner of the North Vietnamese, where he was offered early release but refused until
his compatriots were released, they alleged his time as a POW rendered him "mentally unstable."
[/quote:635cd7a31f] Mmmmm. I think that was Dean. Yeeeeehaw! [quote:635cd7a31f]The fact is that the POWs are the most
comprehensively studied and tested, repeatedly over decades, population in military medicine, and, as his released
medical records show, McCain was eminently psychologically fit. [/quote:635cd7a31f] It was Hollywood that gave us the
Manchurian Candidate. [quote:635cd7a31f]Nixon's bungled break-in at the DNC headquarters pales in comparison to the
foul hatchet job done on McCain by Bush's black bag operatives. Jeff [/quote:635cd7a31f] Nixon didn't break in. It was
a guy named Liddy.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:17 AM Post subject: Re: OT - The Truth - Like it or not
On 4 Aug 2006 14:57:43 -0700, roger_pearse@yahoo.co.uk wrote: [quote:fd1e48c6f9]mark_evins@sbcglobal.net wrote: At the
fundamental level, the Arabs are pissed because their land was stolen from them, first by the British and more recently
in 1947 by European Zionists under the guise of Jewish settlers who were backed by the US government. Prior to that,
there was no conflict between Jews and Arabs, nor between Muslims and Jews. Their land was not "stolen" from
them by anyone. The Brits reached an agreement with those who wanted to break loose from the oppression of the Ottomans,
and part of that was the British protectorate. There are *always* dissenters. But surely... * Arab = inhabitant of
Arab-ia? * Jews lived in Palestine in 1 AD? * Romans stole Palestine from them and evicted large numbers? * In the 7th
century the Arabs stole Palestine from the Romans? * During the middle ages, the Turks stole it from the Arabs? * After
the Turks were defeated by the British, a League of Nations mandate awarded the territories to the British and French
(who didn't need or want them, being short of cash at the time). * During the last 2 Jews were returning to Palestine.
At what point did the Arabs own the land, in the last millenium? Until that slight is remedied there can't possibly be
peace. What sort of person is willing to shed oceans of blood over 'slights' based on events before anyone now living
there was born? [/quote:fd1e48c6f9] The Christians complain that the Jews killed Christ and the Jews complain about
being the victims of everyone. [quote:fd1e48c6f9]The sole slight is the existence of Israel as a modern state, and it's
only a slight to those rabid muslims who specifically hate Israel, But which moslems do not? Look at how they act,
what they say. Don't they hate everyone who isn't a moslem, which is most of the world? [/quote:fd1e48c6f9] Yeah, I bet
you think they smell funny too. If you can typecast a billion people on the basis of a religion you must also be a
nigger hater. After all, it does take the same way of thinking. Well doesn't it? [quote:fd1e48c6f9]It looks very
much as if it's just that they start with Israel. If Israel didn't exist, they'd start in on whoever was next. If this
is so -- and it looks a lot like it -- then as it stands, Israel is doing every non-Moslem in the world a huge favour by
diverting these blood-crazed moslems from attacking the rest of us. [/quote:fd1e48c6f9] Ah, yes, the 'moths-to-a-flame'
theory, that there are so few of them and they're so stupid that Bush's invasion attracts them all to one place where
they can be killed by Bush's Warriors in Christ. Its very odd to believe that the invasion of Iraq has protected the US
- "better to fight 'em over there than here!" Better think of another reason cause it sure isn't because
they haven't had ample opportunities. Bush and the Neocons have made sure the US borders are open to all illegal
aliens. No doubt thousands of middle easterners have entered the US from Mexico. Britain has imported Muslims for many
years. It would be extremely easy to mount an attack within the US or Britain. [quote:fd1e48c6f9]If they don't want
to be targets, they need to leave the combat zone, stop supporting the terrorists, and vote out the politicians that are
a part of the terrorist organization. The people whose ancestors inhabited the area we call the Middle East for the
past 10,000 years, will live and die on their land. They are all in this togther - men, women and children. Thus they
are combatants, then, not "innocent civilians". Under the Geneva convention, then, Israel would be perfectly
justified to kill the lot. In both Syria and Iraq, Arab governments have done just this. Are they wrong?
[/quote:fd1e48c6f9] According to the Jewish Talmud all Goyim are fair game for slaughter. [quote:fd1e48c6f9]There is a
simple moral principle here: do not do to others what you would not like done to yourself. Every day it feels as if
Moslems break it, to express their Moslemness. Isn't it the case that, in the Arab world, where Israel is concerned,
every Arab feels that "what's mine is mine; what's yours is negotiable"? [/quote:fd1e48c6f9]
http://msanews.mynet.net/MSANEWS/199911/19991115.18.html ISRAELI TERRORISM Terrorist Gangs Soon after the end of
World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine for the specific purpose of
driving residents out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang. Before the
British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with
the advent of the British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of 60,000 Zionist Jews, the
Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force, numbering
about 6000. The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists, and grew out of the Haganah and its
Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the terror of the
Haganah in order not to lose its respectability. In 1939, one of Irgun's commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the
parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to 300 dangerous fanatics. Zionist Terrorist
Activities 1939 - 1950 1939 - Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa. Moshe Dayan was one of the
participants in the act. This technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times. August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939 -
During this period, Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons
and wounding 25 others. November 25, 1940 - S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing
268 illegal Jewish immigrants. February 24, 1942 - S.S. Struma exploded in the Black Sea, killing 769 illegal Jewish
immigrants. Described by the Jewish Agency as an act of "mass-protest and mass-suicide." November 6, 1944 -
Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in
Cairo. July 22, 1946 - Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices
of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun
officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the
Jewish Agency were involved. October 1, 1946 - The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for
which Irgun laimed responsibility. June 1947 - Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
September 3, 1947 - A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in
London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December ll, 1947 - Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in
Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 13,1947 - Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly
60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate;
in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an
attack with mortars and automatic weapons. December 19, 1947 - Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near
Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah
admitted responsibility for the attack. December 29, 1947 - Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32
Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi. December 30,1947 - A
mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing
more than 60 Arabs. 1947 -- 1948 - Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land; since
then, they have been denied the right to return or been given compensation for their property. After their expulsion,
the Israeli Forces razed to the ground 385 Arab villages and towns out of a total of 475, and obliterated their remains.
January 1, 1948 - Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and
33wounded. January 4, 1948 - Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and
blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee,
killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others. January 5, 1948 - The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem
was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for
this crime. January 7, 1948 - Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while
trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from
different parts of the country. January 16, 1948 - Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children
between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died. December 13, 1947 - February 10, 1948 Seven incidents of bomb-
tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there
were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding
161 others. February 15, 1948 - Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses,
killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.. March 3, 1948 - Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in
Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and
escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23
injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident. March 22, 1948 - A housing block in Iraq Street in
Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of
explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion. March 31, 1948 - The Cairo-Haifa Express
was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons
and wounding 60 others. April 9, 1948 - A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the
Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless
women and children.Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20
of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul. April 16, 1948 - Zionists attacked the former British
army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there. April 19, 1948 - Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in
Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists. May 3, 1948 - A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer,
who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran. May11, 1948 - A letter bomb addressed
to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife. April 25,
1948 - May 13, 1948 Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists.
They stripped and carried away verything they could, destroying what they could not take with them. September 17, 1948
- Count Folke Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by members of the Stern Gang in the Israeli-
controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide, Col. Serot, was also killed. November 1948 - The Arab villages of
Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children.
All the Arabs were forcibly expelled from their homes and land. February 1949 - All the Arabs were forcibly expelled
from their homes in the villases of Anan and Kafr Yasif by Haganah terrorists. 1950 - 1974 1950 - Zionist agents
threw bombs at a synagogue in Baghdad, Iraq, and other Jewish targets in order to pressure Jews into emigrating to
Israel. August 28, 1953 - Armed Israelis attacked the UNRWA refugee camp at Bureij in the Gaza Strip. The Israelis
threw grenades through the windows of the huts and gunned down the fleeing refugees, killing 30 and wounding 62 others.
October 14, 1953 - The village of Qibiya was attacked by Israeli troops, killing 42 villagers. July 1954 - American
and British consular and information offices in Cairo were sabotaged by Israeli agents operating under the Israeli
Ministry of Defense. April 4/5 1956 - The Israelis shelled Gaza with 120 mm mortars, killing 56 Arab civilians and
wounding 103 others. January 11, 1952 - September 25, 1956 Israelis carried out violent raids against Arab villages
of Beit Jala, Falame, Rantis, Qibiya, Nahalin, Bani Suhaila, Rahwa, Gharandal, Wadi Fukin (in Palestine and Syria) and
refugee camps at Bureij and Gaza in the Gaza Strip, killing 220 Arab civilians. October 29, 1956 - Forty-seven Arab
inhabitants, including 7 children and 9 women were massacred by Israeli border guards in the village of Kufr Kassem. The
guards arrived and announced that there would be a curfew as of 5 p.m. that very evening. Most of the men were working
in the fields and did not know of the curfew. When they returned in the evening, they were summarily shot. November 3,
1956 - The town of Khan Yunis was occupied by Israeli forces. Two hundred and seventy five persons were killed.
November 12, 1956 - One hundred and eleven civilians were killed by Israeli forces at Rafah refugee camp. October 6,
1959 - The Egypt-Israel Mixed Armistice Commission condemned "Israel" for expelling several hundred beduins
of the Azazmah tribe from the Nagab. November 13,1960 - A large Israeli force, including tanks and armoured cars,
attacked the village of Samu', destroying 125 houses, a school, a clinic; 15 houses were destroyed in another village,
killing a total of 18 and wounding 54 others. 1959 -- 1963 - Israeli armed forces attacked refugee camps at Rafah and
villages at Nuqeib, Rafat and Shaikh Hussein in Syria and Palestine, killing 47 civilians. June 12, 1967 - Four
hundred families were evicted from the Moroccan Quarter in Jerusalem, after three hours notice to evacuate their homes.
Similar incidents took place at Qalqilya. June 12, 1967 - The villages of Beit Nuba, Yalu and Amwas were razed to the
ground after the forced eviction of the population. June/July 1967 - During the June 1967 war, Israeli forces
deliberately attacked UNEF Indian staff on 5 occasions, killing 11 and wounding 24. The UN Secretary-General reported
that Israeli troops also mistreated UNEF officers and looted their property. June/December l967 - As a result of the
June 1967 war, over 400,000 Palestinian Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank and over 100,000 Palestinians and Syrians
living in the Kuneitra area were up rooted from their homes and not allowed to return while the area was under Israeli
occupation. December 28, 1968 - Israeli commando units transported by helicopter, attacked the Beirut civil airport
and destroyed 13 civilian aircraft, causing damage of 22 million pounds sterling. Sptember 4, 1967 - September 29,
1967, July 8, 1968, Saptember 8, 1968, May 11, 1969 Israeli artillery shelled residential areas in Ismailia, Suez and
Port Said. The Egyptian Government announced that 600 persons were killed and 1000 wounded in Ismailia since the June
1967 war. February 12, 1970 - Isreali planes bombed a factory near Abou Zaabal, Egypt, killing 70 civilian workers and
injuring 98 others. March 31,1970 - Israeli planes bombed the city of Mansoura in the Nile Delta, killing 12
civilians and wounding 35 others. April 8, 1970 - Israeli planes bombed the Bahr el Baqar school in Sharkia province,
80 kilometres north of Cairo, killing 46 school children. March 11, 1971 - Thirty four families from the Gaza Strip
were expelled to Abou Zuneima, in the Sinai Desert. August 1, 1971 - Israeli military occupation authorities in the
Gaza Strip embarked on a house-demolition and terror campaign designed to force the 400,000 Palestinian refugees living
in the Strip to move out. April 28, 1972 - An Israeli Piper plane flew over the Arab village of Akraba, spraying a
chemical defoliant over the villagers' wheat crops. Previously, the Israeli Army had forcibly confiscated 100,000 dunums
of arable land. In May, 1971 the villagers were asked to sell the remaining land. When they refused, their crops were
thus destroyed. July 8, 1972 - Ghassan Kanafani, a Palestinian novelist and editor, was killed in Beirut when a bomb
planted by Israeli agents exploded in his car. Also killed was his 16 year old niece. July 18, 1972 - Emile Khayyat,
a Rif Bank employee in Beirut was seriously injured when a letter bomb sent by Zionist terrorist arm, the Mosad,
exploded in his face. July 19, 1972 - In a similar incident, Dr. Anis Sayegh suffered serious injuries to his hands
and eyes, in Beirut. July 25, 1972 - Bassam Abou Sharif, a young Palestinian writer in Beirut was seriously wounded
when a book bomb exploded. November 1967 - September 1972 Over 1500 civilians were killed in Israeli attacks against
Arab civilians in villages and refugee camps in Palestine, Jordan , Syria, Lebanon and Egypt. March 1, 1972, March 9,
1972, September 8, 1972 - Israel carried out attacks against civilian areas in Syria, such as Hamma and Maysaloun.
September 12, 1972 - Three children died in a Lebanese hospital from wounds inflicted during the attack by Israeli
aircraft on the Annahr Al Barid Palestinian refugee camp, bringing the total to 13 from this camp alone. September 14,
1972 - A Los Angeles accountant, Mohammed Shaath, was injured together with one of his children when a bomb planted by
Israeli agents exploded in his home. September 16, 1972 - Israeli armoured forces attacked southern Lebanon, pulling
out after much destruction of houses and large-scale looting. September 17, 1972 - An Israeli tank deliberately drove
over a taxi in southern Lebanon, crushing its 9 passengers into pulp. January 3, 1970, May 22, 1970, February 27,
1972, September 8, 1972, September 17, 1972 - Israelis attacked Arab villages and refugee camps in southern Lebanon.
October 4, 1972 - Librairie Palestine, Paris, was damaged by a bomb. Responsibility was claimed by the Massada Movement
for Action and Defense, a student organization. October 16, 1972 - Wael Zuaiter, a Palestinian scholar and artist,
was gunned down by the Israeli Mossad at his apartment entrance in Rome. October 25, 1972 - Ahmad Wafi, a Palestinian
intellectual, was seriously injured in Algiers by an Israeli letter bomb. October 25, 1972 - Mustafa Awad Zaid was
blinded and paralyzed in Tripoli and two Libyan passersby were injured as he opened a letter bomb. October 26, 1972 -
Two employees of the Import-Export Bank in Beirut were seriously wounded when a letter bomb exploded. October 26, 1972
- An Egyptian police officer who checked three suspicious- looking letters was injured when they exploded. November
29, 1972 - Omar Sufan, representative of Red Crescent in Stockholm lost his fingers when a letter bomb exploded.
November 29, 1972 - Adnan Hammad, a Palestinian student leader, was seriously injured in Germany with a letter bomb.
November 29, 1972 - Three employees in Tunis Post Office were seriously injured while sorting mail, as a letter bomb
exploded. November 30, 1972 - Ahmed Awadallah, a Palestinian student leader in Copenhagen lost his arm when a Mosad-
despatched letter bomb exploded. July 1967 -- December 1972 - Israeli armed forces, in acts of collective punishment
and reprisal, blew up or bulldozed more than 10,000 homes of Arab civilians in Gaza and the West Bank. December 8,
1972 - Mahmoud Hamshari, a Palestinian leader and intellectual lost a leg and subsequently died, on January 8, when an
electronically-detonated bomb installed by the Israeli Mosad, exploded in his house in Paris. Aharon Yariv (an ex
Israeli Minister of Information) supervised the execution of the operation, as he was charged with Israeli special
operations directed at the Palestinians. January 25, 1973 - Hussein Abul Kheir was killed in Cyprus when a bomb
exploded in his hotel room. February 21, 1973 - The northernmost corner of Lebanon was invaded by air and sea-borne
Israeli forces, causing the death of 40 Arab civilians. February 22, 1973 - A Libyan civilian airliner was shot down
by Israeli fighter aircraft over Sinai, killing 106 passengers and crew. April 6, 1973 - Dr. Bassel Kubaissy, an
Iraqi political science professor, was gunned down and killed in a Paris street by the Israeli special forces. (Kamal
Nasser, one of Palestine's foremost poets, was gunned down and killed in his home in Beirut on April 10, 1973 by the
Israeli special forces and terror squads. ) April 10, 1973 - Palestinian leaders Mohammed Yusuf Najjar, Mrs. Najjar,
Kamal Adwan and Kamal Nasser were all gunned down and killed in their homes in Beirut, by the Israeli special forces and
terror squads. May 2, 1973 - Mrs. Nada Yashruti, a Palestinian feminist leader and mother of two, was ambushed by
three Israeli agents with machine-guns at the entrance to her apartment and killed. June 29, 1973 - Mohammed
Boudaiah, an Algerian poet and friend of the Palestinians, was killed when an Israeli-installed bomb exploded in his car
in Paris. July 21, 1973 - Ahmed Bouchiki was gunned down by Israeli agents in Oslo. The Israelis admitted
responsibility for this crime, which was followed by a court case. In the proceedings, information was revealed linking
the Israeli murderers to the killings of Zuaiter, Hamshari, and other Palestinian leaders and intellectuals murdered in
Europe. April 12, 1974 - Israeli forces attacked Lebanese villages, killing 2 civilians, destroying 31 houses and
kidnapping 13 people. May 13, 1974 - Israeli planes raided Lebanon, killing 4 civilians. May 16, 1974 - Israeli
planes raided and bombarded refugee camps in Lebanon, killing 50 civilians and wounding 200, in the Nabatiyeh and Ein-
el-Helweh refugee camps. The Nabatiyeh camp was totally obliterated. May 19, 1974 - Israeli naval units bombarded the
Rashidiyeh refugee camp, killing 8 civilians. May 22, 1974 - Israeli planes bombed refugee camps in Lebanon, wounding
2 civilians and destroying countless houses. June 20, 1974 - Israeli planes bombed refugee camps in Lebanon, killing
10 civilians and injuring hundreds. July 8, 19 74 - Israeli naval units raided Tyre and Saida, sinking 21 fishing
boats. August 7, 1974 - Israeli planes bombed southern Lebanese villages. August 13, 1974 - Israeli naval boats
shelled refugee camps, killing 1 civilian and wounding 6. August 25, 1974 - Israeli forces shelled villages in
southern Lebanon. September 24, 1974 - Israeli forces shelled villages in southern Lebanon. June 11, 1967 - June
1974 Israeli forces destroyed 19,000 Palestinian homes in the West Bank and Gaza, which is equivalent to 380 villages
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Posted by Gunner on Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:26 AM Post subject: Re: AN APOLOGY FROM A BUSH VOTER
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:44:39 -0400, NoSpamAllowed <NoSpamAllowed@> wrote: [quote:85ea46d992] Wow, all of that
cut and paste and you still filed to provide a quote as to what exactly he said that was perjury. No one ever has. He
answered the question he was asked by the lawyers totally honest and accurately. You can cite the whole damned
dictionary, Encyclopedia, and Google, and you still won't have what it is you claim he committed perjury by saying.
[/quote:85ea46d992] Sigh...he lied under oath. He was fined, had his license revoked and so forth..and yet you still
claim he didnt. Odd..I dont recall the outrage from the Left when he was "falsely fined" $90,000 etc etc.
Perhaps they, unlike you, were able to admit the truth? "I, didnt have sex, with that woman, Monica Lewinsky"
July 1991: Question: "Have you ever used Marijuana or any illegal drugs?" Answer: "I've never broken any
drug law." - Arkansas Gazette, July 24th, 1991, p. 8B Asked this 3 times, on 3 separate occasions, by 3 different
interviewers, your Great White Hope repeated this claim. Until faced with irrefutable proof, that is. Then he said:
March 29th, 1992: "I've never broken a state law. But when I was in England I experimented with marijuana a time or
two..." Later, in that same interview, "No one has ever asked me that question point-blank." - The New
York Times, March 30th, 1992, p.A15. On Jan. 19, 1992 Bill Clinton said, "I want to make it very clear that this
middle-class tax cut, in my view, is central to any attempt we're going to make to have a short-term economic
strategy." But on Jan. 14, 1993 at a press conference, Bill Clinton said, "From New Hampshire forward, for
reasons that absolutely mystified me, the press thought the most important issue in the race was the middle-class tax
cut. "I never did meet any voter who thought that." On Sept. 8,1992, Bill Clinton said, "The only people
who will pay more income taxes are the wealthiest 2 percent, those living in households making over $200,000 a
year." In response to a Bush-Quayle ad that people with incomes of as little as $36,000 would pay more taxes under
the Clinton plan, Bill Clinton said on Oct. 1, 1992, "It's a disgrace to the American people that the president
(Bush) of the United States would make a claim that is so baseless, that is so without foundation, so shameless in its
attempt to get votes under false pretenses." Yet the NY TIMES in the analysis of Clinton's budget wrote,
"There are tax increases for every family making more than $20,000 a year!" "While Clinton continued to
defend his middle-class tax cut publicly, he privately expressed the view to his advisers that it was intellectually
dishonest." (The Agenda, by Bob Woodward, p. 31) In Business Week, July 6, 1992, Bill Clinton was quoted as
saying, "When I began the campaign, the projected deficit was $250 billion. Now its up to $400 billion."
However in Time Magazine. 2 weeks later, Bill Clinton was quoted as saying, "When I started in New Hampshire
working with those numbers, we felt the deficit was going to be around $250 billion a year, not $400 billion."
Which is it, Bill? But then he said on Feb. 10, 1993, "The deficit of this country is about $50 billion a year
bigger than I was told it was going to be before the election." --our President said this after
"discovering" that the deficit was $290 billion, $110 Billion LESS than he had claimed in July! Which story
are we to believe from our president?? President Clinton said on March 23, 1993 at a press conference: "M economic
package will cut $500 billion from the deficit in five years." Yet the projected deficit in 1998 with Clinton's
budget is $234 billion, the projected deficit in 2001 with Clinton budget is $401 billion.(These figures come from Bill
Clinton's budget document, "A Vision of Change for America."-Feb. 1993. The Wall Street Journal Opinion-
Editorial Page 2/21/95 NUMBERS GAME It's the season to cut government, or at least to claim to, so we perked up when
we heard President Clinton declare in his State of the Union address that he had cut (quote) more than 100,000 positions
from the federal bureaucracy in the last two years alone (unquote). As they say in detective work, interesting - if
true. So we decided to pull out the new federal budget to check. What we discovered is that Mr. Clinton isn't lying, but
he isn't telling the whole truth either. His speeches need an asterisk. From 1993 to Fiscal Year 1996, the Clinton
Administration will in fact have cut the federal government by 157,000 full-time positions. But there's a catch: 131,000
of those positions are civilian Defense jobs. Those cuts reflect the inevitable post-cold War decline in military
spending, not some brave retrenchment in the overall size of government. There's another catch: Of the 26,000 positions
to be cut from the non-Defense side of Leviathan, 9,500 come from the Resolution Trust Corp. and Federal Deposit
Insurance Corp. Those two banking agencies grew like Topsy to manage the savings and loan debacle, but are now cutting
back as the bailout ends. The RTC is even supposed to go out of business this year. The bottom line is that over the
course of the Clinton presidency, the non-Defense, non-S&L part of the government will cut a measly 16,500 full-time
positions out of some 1.2 million. In essence the domestic government is conducting business as usual. Mr. Clinton also
says he's making the federal establishment (quote) the smallest it has been since John Kennedy was President (unquote).
But again, excluding Defense, total executive branch employment will be 1,181,000 in 1996. Back in 1963, when JFK was
President, total non-Defense employment was a mere 861,000. Maybe that should be the 1996 goal for Republican budget-
cutters; they could say they got the idea from the President. Are you referring to the guy who absolutely, positively
guaranteed that if he was elected governor of Arkansas in 1990 he would serve 4 years? The one who said that a 4% income
tax rate on the wealthiest 2% of the population would raise 165 billion dollars, reduce the deficit, and allow a middle
class tax cut? The one who claimed that the republicans had killed the Lani Guinier nomination? The one who claimed that
he had decided to make himself available to the draft after 4 acquaintances were killed in Viet Nam (rather than after
his birthday had been drawn #311 in the draft lottery)? The one who claimed that "affirmative action "benefits
white men? Are you referring to that Clinton? No, he said that the new gasoline tax (4 cent per gallon) would go to a
deficit reduction trust fund. No such fund has been established to date... it is going to the general fund to fund their
increased social programs... check it out... call the government accounting office and ask... they are stealing your
money... And I give you my word to do it without the blame game of the last twelve years of Reagan and Bush. Good,
OOPS, that lasted almost a whole day! The NY Times reported that people earning under $100,000 paid an additional $3
billion in '94. But wait, Clinton and the media claimed that only the top 2% were going to pay more taxes. Was that
another lie from the Clinton administration? According to liberal Democrats, anyone who makes a dollar more than you is
the "rich". On the issue of "taxes on the rich", consider the following: Most of the
"rich" are smart business men & women... they own and run their own businesses. In addition, Clinton
passed a 1% increase in corporate income taxes... If you owned your own business, or if you were the CFO of a
corporation, and your cost of doing business went up, what would you do ? You'd pass this cost on... Should they feel
the heat, so to speak, they pass the new costs on to the principle consumers of the goods and services they offer...The
middle-class and poor....So who really is paying Clinton's new taxes ? As the saying goes. "When the
"rich" get a sniffle, the middle-class catches pneumonia." The real problem with this attack on the rich
is the underlying assumption that this is a static class of people. Not so. A great many people start off
"poor" and as they move up in the business world become successful and eventually become what the Democrats
would currently characterize as "rich." Indeed most of the wealth in this country is in the hands of senior
citizens. Many of these people at one time had no money at all. So, the attack on the rich is not an attack on some
evil group. Its mostly an attack on people who after much sacrifice and hard work have finally reached their peak
earning years and are trying to enjoy and pass on the fruits of their labor. There were many other Clinton proposals
that didn't fly (thank you) which would have further parted people from their capital....Here's a couple of winners he
proposed in 1992.... Imputed rent...You would pay tax on "rent" that you would have collected FROM
YOURSELF...Tax real, only...NO RENTAL INCOME !!!!! Lower the inheritance threshold...From about $650,000 to around
$200,000. What has been an exclusive tax of the rich, Clinton wanted to give as a gift to the middle-class... Newsweek
reports that Clinton and the Democrats will no longer pursue the rich vs. middle class America class warfare strategy.
They realize that it won't help them politically and, according to Newsweek, "President Clinton...doesn't really
believe in it." Newsweek noted that they are abandoning it, so apparently, they do not agree, nor do their
sources. Clinton has been bashing the rich since his campaign, claiming disingenuously that they are not paying their
"fair share" of taxes, i.e. falsely implying that they are paying less than they did in '80. Hillary went
after the "greedy" pharmaceutical companies, after selling their stock short. They have made many self-serving
moralistic statements about the "greed" of the '80's. Clinton and the Democrats condemn Republican. tax cut
plans because they claim it will "help the rich." If this is not class warfare, what is? Clinton has pursued
this strategy for about 3 years, and now he claims he **doesn't really believe in it?** Hey, I'll buy that! Newsweek
reported it as "news." How strangely non-judgmental that they would not question the sincerity of Clinton's
claim when his actions speak otherwise. Clinton's economic policies ??? 1) A massive tax increase 2) "Hope"
that interest rates would remain low 3) A few R & D credits for Al Gore's pet high tech industries Was there
anything else ? In reference to the Social Security trust fund -- "But its important that we not panic; there is
no immediate danger to retirement. Our accumulated surpluses would be sufficient to pay the liabilities to 2029 at
current payroll tax rates." From an interview; published in the May '95 issue of Money magazine. Hasn't anyone
told him that the Social Security trust fund has no money -- Congress borrowed it all and left IOUs with no plans yet on
how to redeem those IOU's? Given that Clinton seems so concerned about the hateful rhetoric in: politics these days, I
wonder if he intends to limits such violent: statements as "taking food from the mouths of children",
"war on the poor", "throwing the elderly out on the streets", and "contract _on_ America, Evil,
Extreme, Mean Spirited and on and on and on. We've given more power to states and localities and to private citizens.
Our proposals would further accelerate those trends. Bill Clinton, White House press conference, 3/3/95 Fact: Clinton
lobbied to defeat the Balance Budget Amendment in the Senate, so states and localities are prevented from getting the
chance to even debate the amendment. His Administration opposes giving block grants to the states. He is opposing all
Block Grants as well. We support adding 100,000 new police officers. Bill Clinton, same news conference. Fact: There
are no "100,000 police officers". Never has been, never will be. Even liberal columnist DeWayne Wickam
concluded in USA Today: "Many of the 100,00 cops promised in the crime bill will never materialize". On the
day AFTER Clinton signed the bill into law, The New York Times reported that "some law enforcement analyst said the
Administration has in effect misled local officials by vastly overstating the number of police officers who can be hired
under the program". It's called lying where I come from, how about where you came from? Everyone knows that I
have tougher ethic rules than any other President. Bill Clinton, news conference 3/3/95 defending the ethical standards
of his administration. Fact: In addition to his own Whitewater troubles and many high-level resignations, several
members of his cabinet are currently facing probes in their conduct, including four "Special Prosecutors.. The
budget which came from the President said,, I've given up; that as long I am President of the United States there will
never be a balanced budget. That is an astonishing statement. Paul Tsongas, at a Capitol Hill press conference, 2/7/95.
Clinton said, "Who do these people think they are?" referring to people who stockpile guns, "No other
government in the world would allow their citizens to do that." How about this! Sara Brady was quoted in several
papers and magazines at an Hand Gun Incorporated rally a couple of weeks before the Senate vote saying..." Our main
agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts
or even lie. "Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been
totally disarmed." -- Sarah Brady (President of Handgun Control, Inc. and wife of James Brady, whom the Brady Bill
was named for and was recently "honored" by Clinton) Democratic Rep. David Obey said "I think most of us
learned some time ago that if you don't like the president's position on a particular issue, you simply need to wait a
few weeks." Foreign Policy? Well, let's see, start with Somalia. It's not the first, but its one of the best
known. In the winter of 1992 George Bush ordered US troops to guard food shipments in and around the ports. The
deployment ended in March, a resounding success. A couple of months later Clinton got suckered into sending the Marines
back in as 'nation builders'. In the course of which he deliberately violated Executive Orders of the Presidency not to
engage in deliberate or willful assassination of foreign political or military leaders; you DO remember the AC130
gunships firing wildly into civilian occupied apartment buildings, in an effort to murder a Somali warlord and his
followers, don't you? I didn't think so. Long term memory is not a strong suite of the Clintonestae. Want a small
disaster? At the opening of the Holocaust Memorial, 1993. A luncheon was served afterwards for the distinguished Jewish
guests and foreign dignitaries. The main entree' was Honey baked Ham. Bosnia. Bosnia is always good for a laugh. On the
campaign trail, Candidate Clinton said that he was qualified as Commander In Chief of the Arkansas National Guard to
make military decisions. As an example, he bragged that if he were elected, he would bomb the Serbs. In May of 1993, he
sent Warren Christopher to convince the Europeans to allow him to do just that. Christopher went with the 'strongest
message possible' to urge England, France, and Germany that he was fully committed to this course. Even as the Secretary
of State was waiting to meet with them in Geneva, Your Great White Hope appeared on the tube and said that 'bombing the
Serbs probably wouldn't be necessary'. Warren Christopher is not noted for emotional displays: Some have suggested that
he has had the centers in his brain responsible for emotion surgically removed. After Christopher heard what Fearless
Leader did, he ALMOST cracked a frown. The Europeans went ballistic. This year Clinton pushed the bombing schtick again
to make himself look tougher than the average weenie and we all know what happened: The Serbs have basically gone on to
conquer Bosnia. In that sad country you now have Serbian held territory and UN funded and run Serbian concentration
camps disguised as 'safe havens'. The only reason these haven't been overrun is the Serbs haven't got the vaguest idea
what to do with the refugees huddled in them. "OH!" you shriek hysterically, "PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS
HAVE HAD FAILURES, TOO! IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRR THAT BILL CLINTON IS BEING JUDGED SO HARSHLY!!!!" Previous
administrations had more successes than failures. George Bush built an international coalition to defeat Iraq in the
Gulf War - even got the Arabs to talk to the Israelis afterwards. Ronald Reagan stopped the advance of Marxism in this
hemisphere and cracked the will of the Soviets hard-liners to continue the Cold War. Carter, whatever else he may have
failed at, can always look back at the Camp David Accords. Ford wasn't President long enough to do more than handle
domestic problems, but Nixon reopened the dialogue with China. And so on back through American history. Yes, they had
failures, but never were so many failures in so short a time the result of INCREDIBLE INCOMPETENCE by an Administration.
Dan Rather responding to congratulations to him and Connie Chung during and interview shortly after they teamed up
together, "If we could be one-hundredth as gret as you and Hillary Rodham Clinton have been together in the White
House," the supposedly objective newsman said, "we'd take it right now and walk away winners." "We
can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans" - President Clinton (USA TODAY, 11
March 1993, page 2A) Vice President Al Gore's interview on ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley," Sunday,
August 25, 1996 Vice President Al Gore made a number of assertions during this interview which we feel require
additional clarification. Medicare "Beyond that, the Republican Party, specifically Speaker Gingrich, said that
he wanted to make changes that would cause Medicare to wither on the vine." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with
David Brinkley," 8/25/96 Wrong! Al Gore quoted Speaker Gingrich out of context. What the Speaker actually said
was: "Okay, what do you think the Health Care Financing Administration is? It's a centralized command bureaucracy.
It's everything we're telling Boris Yeltzin to get rid of. Now we don't get rid of it in round one because we don't
think that's politically smart. We don't think that's the right way to go through a transition. But we believe its going
to wither on the vine because we think people are voluntarily going to leave it -- voluntarily." --Speaker Newt
Gingrich, remarks to Blue Cross/Blue Shield conference, 10/24/95 In their 1992 campaign, Clinton and Gore endorsed
scrapping the Health Care Financing Administration: "We will scrap the Health Care Financing Administration and
replace it with a health standards board -- made up of consumers, providers, business, labor and government -- that will
establish annual health budget targets and outline a core benefits package." --Bill Clinton and Al Gore, Putting
People First, 1992 100,000 Cops "The president has formed an alliance with the law enforcement officers around
this country and experts in fighting crime, passed legislation, over the opposition of Senator Dole and Speaker
Gingrich, that is now putting 100,000 extra community police officers on the streets." --Al Gore, ABC's "This
Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96 Wrong again! "What I am advised is that there are 17,000 officers that
can be identified as being on the streets." --Attorney General Janet Reno, media availability, 5/16/96 Worse, not
all of these cops are fighting crime: "At least $7.2 million in COPS grants has been used to hire 86 officers for
state parks, marinas and other areas seemingly far removed from violent crime." --Investor's Business Daily,
7/16/96 Reducing government "We have downsized the federal government during the last four years by 250,000
people." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with David Brinkley," 8/25/96 What Gore didn't say was that Clinton
accomplished this by gutting Defense: "President Clinton's plan three years ago to 'reinvent' government and cut
the federal work force by nearly 252,000 jobs never mentioned that the military would absorb 75 percent of the
cuts." --The Washington Times, 8/23/96 The national debt "The debt, which was just ballooning out of control
under the previous two administrations, has now been cut by 60 percent." --Al Gore, ABC's "This Week with
David Brinkley," 8/25/96 Wrong! According to statistics released in February, 1996 by Clinton's own Office of
Management and Budget, the gross federal debt for fiscal year 1992 was $4.002 trillion. By fiscal year 1995 it had
"ballooned" to $4.921 trillion -- an increase of 23 percent. Bill Clinton during a visit in Italy, to his
hosts: "Just think, we are walking on the very ground where Romulus and Remus walked". -- Bill Clinton (They
are fictional characters) "There is a feeling among reporters that the truth and Clinton don't often go together.
Reporters have a feeling he is a man without conviction." -- Ken Auletta, a media columnist for the New Yorker
Libtards..they are so easy to castrate. Their balls are so small. Gunner "I think this is because of your belief
in biological Marxism. As a genetic communist you feel that noticing behavioural patterns relating to race would cause
a conflict with your belief in biological Marxism." Big Pete, famous Usenet Racist
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