View entire thread: OT Funny spam title
Posted by Kathy Applebaum on Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:36 PM Post subject: OT Funny spam title
Spam definitely irritates me, make no mistake. But sometimes the titles are very entertaining. Today's entry:
"Pizza War the Blob". Almost sounds like the next big teen film. :) (Wednesday's best title was
"Pretentious Sparkplugs". I'm still having fun imagining exactly how you know when a sparkplug is being
pretentious.) -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
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View entire thread: OT Funny spam title
Posted by KJ on Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:57 PM Post subject: Re: OT Funny spam title
I suppose when it starts calling itself a "spark generator" or "spark initiator" ..... "Kathy
Applebaum" <KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote in message
news:EZsVg.10293$e66.3791@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... [quote:5ac5a358e7]Spam definitely irritates me, make no mistake.
But sometimes the titles are very entertaining. Today's entry: "Pizza War the Blob". Almost sounds like the
next big teen film. :) (Wednesday's best title was "Pretentious Sparkplugs". I'm still having fun imagining
exactly how you know when a sparkplug is being pretentious.) -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps
mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious to reply
[/quote:5ac5a358e7]
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View entire thread: OT Funny spam title
Posted by Kathy Applebaum on Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:33 PM Post subject: Re: OT Funny spam title
Especially if it calls itself "Sparke Generator III, Esq." *snort* -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of
Fabric Tramps mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious
to reply "KJ" <KJoger@NOSPAMmchsi.com> wrote in message news:AhtVg.228369$1i1.216150@attbi_s72...
[quote:f1d7c39237]I suppose when it starts calling itself a "spark generator" or "spark initiator"
..... "Kathy Applebaum" <KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote in message
news:EZsVg.10293$e66.3791@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... Spam definitely irritates me, make no mistake. But sometimes the
titles are very entertaining. Today's entry: "Pizza War the Blob". Almost sounds like the next big teen film.
:) (Wednesday's best title was "Pretentious Sparkplugs". I'm still having fun imagining exactly how you know
when a sparkplug is being pretentious.) -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps
mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious to reply
[/quote:f1d7c39237]
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View entire thread: OT Funny spam title
Posted by KJ on Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:40 PM Post subject: Re: OT Funny spam title
Now THAT'S pretentious! KJ "Kathy Applebaum" <KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote in message
news:8PtVg.9438$vJ2.6829@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... [quote:3d4474e1dd]Especially if it calls itself "Sparke
Generator III, Esq." *snort* -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps
mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious to reply
"KJ" <KJoger@NOSPAMmchsi.com> wrote in message news:AhtVg.228369$1i1.216150@attbi_s72... I suppose when
it starts calling itself a "spark generator" or "spark initiator" ..... "Kathy Applebaum"
<KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com> wrote in message news:EZsVg.10293$e66.3791@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... Spam
definitely irritates me, make no mistake. But sometimes the titles are very entertaining. Today's entry: "Pizza War
the Blob". Almost sounds like the next big teen film. :) (Wednesday's best title was "Pretentious
Sparkplugs". I'm still having fun imagining exactly how you know when a sparkplug is being pretentious.) -- Kathy
A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps mailto:KathyA@KayneyNOSPAMQuilting.com
http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious to reply [/quote:3d4474e1dd]
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View entire thread: OT - stolen mail
Posted by mini Mini on Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:12 PM Post subject: Re: OT - stolen mail
Although I understand your point, for the same person to have TWO gone missing and spent locally? I think it's a
resident. I would look up the relevant laws & I would file a complaint officially at the post office & at the
police! Mail is sacred! Emilia who wishes her mother hadn't read her "love" letters when she was teen!
"Iris Smith" <im.smith@waitrose.com> wrote in news:HLKdnWGAKKu4L5fYRVnyhg@brightview.com:
[quote:bec3070b98]I'd be very careful about thinking it's a fellow resident - and as my son's a postman I'd say don't
assume it's you own postman - it's probably not - or even your own sorting office. There's lots of handlers between the
original sending and the delivery. I'd complain loudly to the head of your local office pointing out that two identical
items, clearly identifiable as of some value, have not been received by you and asking them to look into it. It's
possible that other people have had the same experience and they've also complained the PO might!!! be able to trace
down where they go astray. Last time I tried to use Tesco's vouchers (that come with points coupons) they wanted my
card/key tag before they'd accept them. Iris "Hanne Gottliebsen" <hago@dcs.qmul.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:eeeak5$ogn$1@qmul... This really is totally off topic: I'm furious - I use a loyalty card at the local
supermarket (Tesco). It gives me points and 4 times a year vouchers are sent out based on number of points earned.
Well, in May my envelope did not arrive. I called them and they transferred the points back in the account. Then, I
should have gotten the next envelope by Sep 10. Today I called to check, since it did not arrive. Apparently, the
vouchers inside had already been spent at my local supermarket. The points will be added back to my account, for arrival
in November - I did ask fro the mail to be sent to me at a different address! However, this means that either (1) the
mail man/woman stole it or (2) someone in my building did I'm guessing (2). In my building there is one slot for mail
in the front door, with 5 flats/apartments in the building. So all the mail is delivered through the slot, and we sort
it ourselves. Of course, Tesco (wanting the extra advertisement) send out these envelopes in company colours with
"Club Card points inside" plastered all over them. Now, I want to go home and leave a notice for everyone in
the building to see, but I want to be reasonable - after all I don't know who if anyone in the house had dinner (think
steak and wine - easily) for my money. I was thinking of phrasing it as a warning to be careful with your mail. Several
more of my mail has been opened over the last few months - maybe I should be looking for new digs after all. What
would you do? Or write on that note? Thanks, Hanne in London [/quote:bec3070b98]
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View entire thread: AD: Our Etsy Shop
Posted by bobandcarole on Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:53 PM Post subject: Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandal
[quote:10139da2a7]Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual. And like many homosexual men, he likes young teen boys. We
should pray for him that he gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more kids. Meanwhile, we need
to wake up. The fact that this is typical behavior for homosexuals doesn't stop us from continuing to elevate such folks
to positions where they gain access to our kids.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52244[/quote:10139da2a7]
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View entire thread: If watching a Dodge truck rust is too fast for you...
Posted by Ignoramus18163 on Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:23 PM Post subject: Re: If watching a Dodge truck rust is too fast for you...
On 16 Oct 2006 09:41:35 -0700, pdrahn@coinet.com <pdrahn@coinet.com> wrote: [quote:990d57f118]Yes, this is very
interesting! Thanks. [/quote:990d57f118] I am glad that you liked it. [quote:990d57f118]The "pitch" is
actually coal-tar. [/quote:990d57f118] We used it a long time ago to seal asphalt paper on the roof of our summer house.
[quote:990d57f118]Now a possible cancer producing product, so it can't be used much anymore. Roofs that were coated 100
years ago, still don't leak because of the flowing characteristic you see in the pitchdrop experiment. It flows in hot
weather to seal any cracks developed in cold weather. [/quote:990d57f118] In reality it was shit and required constant
attention. [quote:990d57f118]It is also the so-called "macadam" used on early roads for the same reasons.
[/quote:990d57f118] Very nice substance, I would like to find some as well as ammonium nitrate, another favorite
substance of my teen days. i
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View entire thread: If watching a Dodge truck rust is too fast for you...
Posted by JR North on Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:09 AM Post subject: Re: If watching a Dodge truck rust is too fast for you...
http://skylighter.com/ JR Dweller in the cellar Ignoramus18163 wrote: [quote:86ebea11e7]Very nice substance, I would
like to find some as well as ammonium nitrate, another favorite substance of my teen days. i [/quote:86ebea11e7] --
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View entire thread: OT: Nixie Tubes
Posted by Martin H. Eastburn on Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:55 AM Post subject: Re: Nixie Tubes
That hyperlink shows what we (I used to do it with my Dad as a teen) had to go through in laying out massive designs.
Lots of work - but that is a hobby, not work. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer
lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH & Endowment Member NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA
and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member http://lufkinced.com/ Rick wrote: [quote:45b94c26c3]"Tom
Gardner" <tom(nospam)@ohiobrush.com> wrote in message news:IZmPg.2928$e66.1696@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
"Fred Fowler III" <fred@nospamplease.fvfowler.com> wrote in message
news:0j7rg2dsknfdch1bunbdg5p9mnjjfqnh73@4ax.com... Hey all, Was rumbling through bins of old stuff from a local estate
sale and found about some old (looks like mil) hardware with lots of Nixie tubes attached. Asked the owner, and they
"just inherited the junk", take it if you want... I did. I netted about 19 tubes, but have no idea how to test
the "bad" ones. So how easy is it to build a clock or something without frying myself in the process? I know
they require pretty high voltage... Maybe there is a good design for a tube tester, but have not found on the net? Some
research shows I can get new ones from Russia. Cheers, Fred Fred, you have WAY too much time on your hands!
Here's a clock for ya, Fred.... http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Leserbriefe/Bruegmann-Digital-Roehren-Clock/Digital-
Roehre nuhr.htm [/quote:45b94c26c3] ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----
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View entire thread: I am really disgusted with this gov. interference
Posted by Larry Jaques on Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:56 PM Post subject: Re: I am really disgusted with this gov. interference
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:08:38 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "knowone" <finalact@earthlink.net>
quickly quoth: [quote:dfdb93fddc]I have a lot of hot buttons but today, I see that the F.B.I. nabbed a polygamist who
was on the 'Ten Most Wanted List'. He arranged a marriage of a man and a 16 year-old girl that wasn't married.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,210959,00.html Good God Almighty, with all of the world's problems, do we have to
have Uncle Sam putting a polygamist on the most wanted list? [/quote:dfdb93fddc] Fundamentalists must be in charge!
<sigh> [quote:dfdb93fddc]Haven't most 16 yr. old girls in this day and age already delved deeply into sex?
[/quote:dfdb93fddc] Yes, and many have by the time they've turned into a teen (13.) [quote:dfdb93fddc]Yeah, I know,
where do you draw the line age-wise? She is not a child at 16. Besides, the ten most wanted list is that concerned
when we have mass murderers, terrorists, serial murderers and on and on? [/quote:dfdb93fddc] In Japan and several other
countries, the age of consent is 12. In China and most of South America it's age 13. We're VERY old-fashioned here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Age_of_Consent.png [quote:dfdb93fddc]Is it me? I say let's get our limited
resources focused on REAL THREATS and criminals. [/quote:dfdb93fddc] Gee, according to the Shrub, we have unlimited
funds to blow. [quote:dfdb93fddc]Who is with me? [/quote:dfdb93fddc] I, for one. I really need to change my party
affiliation to Libertarian instead of just voting that way. We need to get the ranks up and let the totally corrupt Reps
and Dems know that we mean business. --- Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very
clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.
--John Wayne (1907 - 1979)
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View entire thread: OT: WHHOOOOoooo!
Posted by Karen C - California on Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:56 AM Post subject: Re: OT: WHHOOOOoooo!
Well, thusfar I've had all of 5 (and one was a teen/young adult who was chaperoning and had his own bag). I'd bought a
package of a dozen pencils and was reasonably certain that I wouldn't need them all. It appears that I was right. --
Karen C - California www.CFSfacts.org where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Finished 10/30/06 - Bouncing
Tigger mini WIP: baby and housewarming gifts, July birthstone, Flowers of Hawaii (Jeanette Crews) for ME!!! Retrieved
from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel LTR: Fireman's Prayer (#2), Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler, Holiday
Snowglobe Editor/Proofreader www.KarenMCampbell.com Design page http://www.KarenMCampbell.com/designs.html
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View entire thread: OFF TOPIC - why me VENTING
Posted by Liz from Humbug on Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:52 PM Post subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - why me VENTING
lewmew wrote: [quote:395b207096]How old is that son again? And if you've gotten him in better shape, PLEASE send me
some advice - my soon to be 13 yo ds is driving me crazy with his moodiness, sometimes mean behavior, forgetfulness and
general lack of cooperation! (BTW - we did discover one punishment that works - misbehavior can result in having an
adult with you at all times - not fun at this age!) Linda [/quote:395b207096] More hints from someone watching from the
sidelines who isn't a parent, and library employee working next to a k - 8 school where kids hang out in the afternoons.
Think of it as a teen version of menopause! :-))) The teen years are when the human brain gets completely rewired, as
well as hormones doing odd things to one's body. Even skills like "expression recognition" get screwed up.
Our Young Adult coordinater read a study where teens of different ages were shown pictures of adults with different
expressions - sadness, anger, happiness, fear, etc. and there was a certain age at which they seemed to lose the ability
to differentiate between them. They would consistently see "angry" and read it as "sad". Since
they weren't recognizing the expressions, they weren't giving the appropriate responses. NOT to say that they can't
combine expression with common sense and auditory signals (the use of one's complete first and middle names at a high
volume, for example) :-) to come up with what they know is the correct response, only that the signals their brains are
sending them don't always make sense - to them or to adults around them. We're lucky at the library (small & rural)
in that we're not asking much of them, so we frequently get the smiles and good manners that seem to desert them at
home. :-)) Don't despair & don't give up on them. Most of them get better in a few years & actually turn into
pretty good husband material. Liz from Humbug
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View entire thread: OFF TOPIC - why me VENTING
Posted by Susan Hartman on Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:19 PM Post subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - why me VENTING
Liz from Humbug wrote: [quote:d1afd98461]lewmew wrote: How old is that son again? And if you've gotten him in better
shape, I think of teens as toddlers on a bigger plane...the same issues of[/quote:d1afd98461] independence, testing
limits, permanance, "ME! MINE! BECAUSE I SAID/WANT IT!" Sound familiar? The problem is, the stakes are so
much higher in the teen years. Sue (two down, one to go <sigh>) [quote:d1afd98461]PLEASE send me some advice -
my soon to be 13 yo ds is driving me crazy with his moodiness, sometimes mean behavior, forgetfulness and general lack
of cooperation! (BTW - we did discover one punishment that works - misbehavior can result in having an adult with you
at all times - not fun at this age!) Linda More hints from someone watching from the sidelines who isn't a parent,
and library employee working next to a k - 8 school where kids hang out in the afternoons. Think of it as a teen
version of menopause! :-))) The teen years are when the human brain gets completely rewired, as well as hormones doing
odd things to one's body. Even skills like "expression recognition" get screwed up. Our Young Adult
coordinater read a study where teens of different ages were shown pictures of adults with different expressions -
sadness, anger, happiness, fear, etc. and there was a certain age at which they seemed to lose the ability to
differentiate between them. They would consistently see "angry" and read it as "sad". Since they
weren't recognizing the expressions, they weren't giving the appropriate responses. NOT to say that they can't combine
expression with common sense and auditory signals (the use of one's complete first and middle names at a high volume,
for example) :-) to come up with what they know is the correct response, only that the signals their brains are sending
them don't always make sense - to them or to adults around them. We're lucky at the library (small & rural) in that
we're not asking much of them, so we frequently get the smiles and good manners that seem to desert them at home. :-))
Don't despair & don't give up on them. Most of them get better in a few years & actually turn into pretty good
husband material. Liz from Humbug [/quote:d1afd98461] -- -- Susan Hartman/Dirty Linen The Magazine of Folk and World
Music http://www.dirtylinen.com
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View entire thread: OT: Pennsylvanian killings
Posted by Cheryl Isaak on Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:19 AM Post subject: Re: OT: Pennsylvanian killings
On 10/4/06 3:13 PM, in article 452407bd$0$13722$4c368faf@roadrunner.com, "Brenda Lewis"
<rhiannonveritas@netscape.net> wrote: [quote:945b48cb40]Cheryl Isaak wrote: I find being treated with suspicion
every time I walk in the door at the middle or high school distasteful. Most of the time, I don't even carry a purse or
wear a coat regardless of the weather, so there is no place to hide something "dangerous". Last spring, when
the nurse called for me to come get DS, he had the stomach bug that was sweeping the school. When I looked up the hall
to find him (he had gone to get his backpack) I wasn't allowed to approach my son while he was throwing up in the
hallway 50 feet away. The "monitor" had to call the nurse to have her come escort him. She wouldn't even bring
him the plastic bag the nurse had given me for the ride home. She made him stand there and be further humiliated instead
while she "guarded" the school against my presence. That's going too far. I'd call that cruelty to the
child. For him to be sick and be able to see his mother and have her restrained from coming to his aid is simply
inhumane on the part of the monitor. [/quote:945b48cb40] Worse as he's a teen and having to stand there when classes
were due to change. I did have a word or two with the principal, did not do much good. He doesn't like parents at the
school; they interfere with learning. Cheryl
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View entire thread: OT: life for the last month or so (long)
Posted by Sandy Ellison on Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:14 PM Post subject: Re: OT: life for the last month or so (long)
Howdy! ((((Anna Belle)))) Busy times for you. Happy Anniversary! Ragmop/Sandy On 7/7/06 2:10 PM, in article
9nbta2d1fdo6qjl6l0alnh6cd85aacr7qc@4ax.com, "Anna Belle" <fladavis@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
[quote:612d0a8c88] Once the urge hits me I post often. In the last month our DS#2 got married. They live in Ft. Walton
Beach and flew (nightmare-12 hours late) to Las Vegas and got married by Elvis. Both had done the deed before in big
ceremonies and had really bad expierences. This time they had fun so I hope it works. We now have two teen age
grandsons. Now, we are a short family (height) I am just over 5 feet, DH is 5'6", DS is 5'7". These two boys
will take some getting used to, the 15 yo is 6'2" and the 17 yo is 6'4". Unfortunately we won't be able to see
much of them since they are an 11 hour drive from here. DIL is a sweetie, Asian without family, so we are going to
spoil here with attention. Sent a baby quilt for her to give to a friend last week and she wanted to keep it to hang on
the wall. This is how to get in good with a MIL. Other event for the month of June was our 50th Wedding Anniversary. We
took several days and visited Savannah. Mostly because we thought we had never been there, but discovered we had been
there after we arrived. Had a wonderful hot relaxing, time. Next event is visiting Boston to dog sit while DS1 does a
7 day bike ride the middle of July. Neighbors in front and back are on the alert, so no stash raid attempts please!
Just so this is not completely off topic, I had S.E.X. today all by myself. Went to a quilt shop FQ sale. 20 for $20
and all the good stuff by big name MFGrs. A one yard piece of batik, and a 2 yard piece of flannel. Anna Belle in Palm
Bay[/quote:612d0a8c88]
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View entire thread: OT: life for the last month or so (long)
Posted by teleflora on Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:59 PM Post subject: Re: life for the last month or so (long)
Anna Belle, I love the part where you realized you HAD visited Savannah before. hehehehhehehehhe. Cindy "Anna
Belle" <fladavis@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:9nbta2d1fdo6qjl6l0alnh6cd85aacr7qc@4ax.com...
[quote:c12ef701ce] Once the urge hits me I post often. In the last month our DS#2 got married. They live in Ft. Walton
Beach and flew (nightmare-12 hours late) to Las Vegas and got married by Elvis. Both had done the deed before in big
ceremonies and had really bad expierences. This time they had fun so I hope it works. We now have two teen age
grandsons. Now, we are a short family (height) I am just over 5 feet, DH is 5'6", DS is 5'7". These two boys
will take some getting used to, the 15 yo is 6'2" and the 17 yo is 6'4". Unfortunately we won't be able to see
much of them since they are an 11 hour drive from here. DIL is a sweetie, Asian without family, so we are going to
spoil here with attention. Sent a baby quilt for her to give to a friend last week and she wanted to keep it to hang on
the wall. This is how to get in good with a MIL. Other event for the month of June was our 50th Wedding Anniversary. We
took several days and visited Savannah. Mostly because we thought we had never been there, but discovered we had been
there after we arrived. Had a wonderful hot relaxing, time. Next event is visiting Boston to dog sit while DS1 does a
7 day bike ride the middle of July. Neighbors in front and back are on the alert, so no stash raid attempts please!
Just so this is not completely off topic, I had S.E.X. today all by myself. Went to a quilt shop FQ sale. 20 for $20
and all the good stuff by big name MFGrs. A one yard piece of batik, and a 2 yard piece of flannel. Anna Belle in Palm
Bay[/quote:c12ef701ce]
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View entire thread: OT: life for the last month or so (long)
Posted by Anna Belle on Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:10 PM Post subject: OT: life for the last month or so (long)
Once the urge hits me I post often. In the last month our DS#2 got married. They live in Ft. Walton Beach and flew (
nightmare-12 hours late) to Las Vegas and got married by Elvis. Both had done the deed before in big ceremonies and had
really bad expierences. This time they had fun so I hope it works. We now have two teen age grandsons. Now, we are a
short family (height) I am just over 5 feet, DH is 5'6", DS is 5'7". These two boys will take some getting
used to, the 15 yo is 6'2" and the 17 yo is 6'4". Unfortunately we won't be able to see much of them since
they are an 11 hour drive from here. DIL is a sweetie, Asian without family, so we are going to spoil here with
attention. Sent a baby quilt for her to give to a friend last week and she wanted to keep it to hang on the wall. This
is how to get in good with a MIL. Other event for the month of June was our 50th Wedding Anniversary. We took several
days and visited Savannah. Mostly because we thought we had never been there, but discovered we had been there after we
arrived. Had a wonderful hot relaxing, time. Next event is visiting Boston to dog sit while DS1 does a 7 day bike ride
the middle of July. Neighbors in front and back are on the alert, so no stash raid attempts please! Just so this is not
completely off topic, I had S.E.X. today all by myself. Went to a quilt shop FQ sale. 20 for $20 and all the good
stuff by big name MFGrs. A one yard piece of batik, and a 2 yard piece of flannel. Anna Belle in Palm Bay
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View entire thread: Off Topic -- Auto insurance info
Posted by Taria on Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:14 PM Post subject: Re: Off Topic -- Auto insurance info
No info on specific companies but I was getting an oil change at the dealers (every other one is free!) and a gal was
trying to get one of their rentals while her car was being serviced. Turned out she didn't have coverage on her own car
insurance policy (they don't sell insurance coverage for their rentals) Anyway she was shocked she didn't have the
coverage. I guess my long point here is sometimes the cheapies don't include everything. You may not want a particular
coverage but reading the policy to find out what you ARE buying seems important. We had to go over to AAA when we had
teen drivers. They offered the cheapest coverage with the kids. Lots of companies don't like teens. Don't think that
is an issue for you these days ; ) Looking forward to hearing for other folks too. Taria Sandy Ellison wrote:
[quote:29822b32e5]Howdy! Off topic except that it concerns my Stash Cruiser: any thoughts, experience, stories,
opinions on either of these insurance companies, in particular for automotive coverage-- Nationwide and Travelers
--- or other companies?-- would be appreciated. We've been w/ Farmers' Mid-Century for 20 yrs; they're more expensive
than several other companies, they recently confused our credit history w/ that of someone else and never followed up to
clear this until I investigated, *&^%$#)?-- and saving money is not a bad thing. N. Texas has extremely high auto
insurance. My husband is in the automotive biz and has inside info on which companies are good at paying claims, so I'm
narrowing the search. So any help from y'all is, again, appreciated. Thanks, Ragmop/Sandy-- have Cruisers, will travel
to quilt places ;-) [/quote:29822b32e5]
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View entire thread: My gift
Posted by Kiteflyer on Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:12 PM Post subject: My gift
I could see something didn’t fit as when I was still 25 yards from the creek. It was a bright orange color in the
sunlight, nothing that would appear in nature. I was naturally curious, but with no real reason to hurry. As I got
closer, my heart moved farther up into my throat. When I was right on it, my fears were confirmed. It was
Stacy, lying there beside the water, a small patch of blood clearly visible on the side of her head. Terrified, I
moved toward her slowly, glancing around to see if whoever had done this might still be lurking about. The forest air
was still but for the chirping of a few birds. When I at last summoned my courage, I moved up and knelt
beside her. She was not breathing, I could find no heart beat, and though I shook her, her body was limp. She was
still warm, but there was no life in her. I was in shock, not knowing what to do. In movies, you always ran and told
someone when you encountered a body, but somehow movies could never convey the realness of such a situation. I sat
there for a moment, my mouth agape, no idea in the world what to do. Tears sprang to my eyes after a while.
Tears over this beautiful girl, this girl who in some childish way I had loved. I had dreamed sometimes of hugging
her, and I had had orgasms thinking about her hair, the way her teen perfume smelled when I sat beside her on the
swing. Now I would never be able to smell it again. I would never have the chance to hug her, never be able to kiss
her. With tears blurring my eyes, I crawled over to her and looked down. Her eyes were still open in a
stare, but reflexively, I bent down and sniffed her. It was still there, her smell. A fruity, violet sort of smell,
like candy almost, very faint, but very sweet. I followed the smell, something in me wanting to know where it came
from, and I discovered that it was strongest at her neck. It was so incredibly sweet my tongue darted out and tasted.
Her flesh was soft where my tongue touched. Raising my head again, I looked into her beautiful eyes, and
drying my tears with the back of my hand, I said gently into her face, “I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry . . .” I
didn’t know what I was sorry for exactly. Sorry for kissing her? Sorry for what had happened to her? Sorry for
finding her? But something in her eyes was reassuring to me. Something told me that it was all right, everything
was all right, and a sense of peace spread over me. That was the moment when I kissed her. I didn’t think
about it, I just knelt down next to her, and kissed her childish lips with my own. They were soft. Far softer than
her neck even, and though she could not return the kiss, I imagined that she did. And then, I did something
that I should not have, though something in her eyes had invited me, had told me that, yeah, if I wanted to, it would
be ok. I made the decision that Stacy would be the first girl I would see naked. I don’t think to this day that
they have discovered who actually killed Stacy. Probably some drifter passing through; murderers never actually live in
small towns, just pass through wreaking their havoc. I’ll state emphatically that I had nothing to do with it. I
found her just the way that I have said. But I am bound to confess, after all these years, that I was the one who
undressed her. I found her lying there in her orange tank top, her cut off shorts, orange socks and Keds, and I
took them all off, and tossed them in the creek to make it look as though the murderer had done it. Slowly,
I pulled her tank over her head, her arms seeming to fight me at every maneuver. Without pausing, preferring to wait
until I was finished, I unbuttoned and unzipped her shorts and slid them down her muscular tanned legs. She was
wearing a pair of Barbie panties, white, with pictures of Barbie in hearts polk-a-dotting the fabric, and two holes in
the side from where they were old and worn. Looking down at her, I realized, almost laughing at myself, that her
shoes and socks seemed incongruous with her nakedness, and I popped the shoes off one after the other and rolled the
socks off her ankles. She lay there before me now, her eyes looking up at the sky, her hair in an orange
ponytail holder spilling out unkempt, her body brown from the summer sun. I looked at her for a moment, unable to
catch my breath at what I had done. A naked girl, a beautiful naked girl, lying before me. Her chest was freckled
lightly in the same way as her face, the freckles fading as they neard her breasts. They were only mounds, really,
her breasts, just developing, with soft brown nipples sitting perfectly atop each. I could tell when I looked
closely that her left breast was slightly larger than her right, and it was sad to think that the other one would
never catch up now. I knelt down beside her and took one of her nipples in my mouth and tried to suck, thinking in my
ignorance that perhaps there was something there to suck. And though nothing was there, it felt good to have this
rubbery nipple in my mouth, on my tongue, between my teeth. I moved down then, lower on her body, touching
her feet, feeling her thighs in my hand. I pinched her a little, half-expecting her to complain, but there was no
sound, no movement. Then, I parted her legs, bending the knees and raising her legs up when I found that this allowed
for the best view. Her pussy was small, the lips thin and long, and only a bare tuft of hair had begun to cover her.
I moved still closer now, wanting more than anything to see what lay there, between those odd lips. Using my fingers,
I stroked her there, and was surprised at how amazingly soft it was. It was almost like stroking a soft cotten.
Then, with my thumbs, I opened the lips and was amazed at the many wonders that lay there. I stretched them wider and
wider, looking deeper and deeper, discovering the hole, small but dark and sticking a finger inside to feel what it
felt like. It was still warm inside of her, and slippery. Then I understood. I understood what it was that
sex was about all in a rush. Perhaps I had seen something of it as a child, interrupting my parents and then
repressing the memory, or heard something on television, but it was as if the knowledge was already there and I had
only forgotten it for a time. I pulled my own t-shirt over my head, and took off my shorts and underwear in
a rush. I had never been naked out of doors that I could remember, and the wind was ticklish, but frightening as
well, in its suggestion that being caught was a real possibility. My four inch penis was hard already, to the point
that it almost hurt. Unsure what to do, I positioned myself between her legs, and lay down on top of her, my chest
against hers, my penis lying between us against her flat belly. I began to shift myself, trying to figure out exactly
what to do. I wiggled lower, searching for the opening. Finally, thinking that I would never be able to do this with
a real girl, I took my own penis in my hand, and using my other hand to find the hole, I pushed myself in.
She lay there motionless beneath me as I went in. I was unsure what to do at first, and I lay still inside of her,
feeling what it was like to have a part of myself inside another human being. Then I began to move. Maybe it was
only to get out, at first, thinking that perhaps I had gone to far. But as I moved to get out of her, the feeling
was so good, so intense, that I pushed back into her. I began to move slowly in and out, feeling the rubbing
sensation, looking into her eyes, encirling her waist with me hands and feeling the softness of her ass. At last I
came, and it was like nothing that I had ever experienced, allowing my own semen to flow into someone. I rolled off
of her and lay there for several minutes panting. There was nothing else to do. I knew that I had to get
away from here, that there would be no coming back for more, no way to preserve this love of my life. I gathered my
clothes and dressed slowly. Then, after a last gentle kiss, I made my way back to the house where I spent the
afternoon watching cartoons and trying to look innocent. They found her a couple of days later, and there was quite
a stir for a while. A murderer/ rapist in our little home town, a true event. It all died down eventually, and
people went on with their lives. I was never able to forget though. It was my first time. It was her first time.
Part of me will never be able to love anyone as much as I loved Stacy. -=- This message was sent via two or more
anonymous remailing services.
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View entire thread: OT - 4 Gunner
Posted by Cliff on Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:59 PM Post subject: Re: OT - 4 Gunner
On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:08:17 -0700, Nunya <not@home.com> wrote: [quote:812347867f]In article
<Xns98526F72D3780duckrulestheuniverse@quakefour.net>, you.love.sitting-duck@spamgourmet.com says... Matt Stawicki
wrote: That wasn't from Rush. Neither is this. Your heros are spinning like crazy. Drudge is blaming the kids
already. Pure bullshit. You are a liar. [/quote:812347867f] [ Mark “Instant Masturbator” Foley, leave it to Matt
Drudge to fearlessly blame the teen congressional pages Foley was e-diddling: “I’ve seen what they’re doing on YouTube
and I’ve seen what they’re doing all over the Internet,” Drudge said on his Sunday radio show. “You just have to tune
into any part of their pop culture. You’re not going to tell me these are innocent babies. This was two ways, ladies and
gentlemen.” ] http://tinyurl.com/k4y9t Looks like the BS & lies are yours (you vote the neocon party ticket?)
Next time a bit of research first .. ? [quote:812347867f]I think things have gone too far though, and the cover-up is
going to bite them in the ass bigtime. The repubs only chance is to control any investigation. (which they have done for
years) Oversight hearings are practically non-existant since repubs took control, and this will hopefully change if
democrats get control of the house and senate. Your blinders aided hypocrisy is 20/20. Only a complete idiot/liberal
(same thing) would try to play this as a party thing, [/quote:812347867f] Guess who was in total control & knew.
[quote:812347867f]especially when one considers all the sex scandals that the dems and morons like you have given the
wink and nod over the years. [/quote:812347867f] Blaming poor *legal* & willing Monica again?
[quote:812347867f]Instead of brushing Foley under the rug, [/quote:812347867f] Hide him away & get him a
mouthpiece to blame others? [quote:812347867f]like democrats and idiots like you do with perverts [/quote:812347867f]
Such as Foley? He's a dem now, is he? [quote:812347867f]in the democrat cloth, the republicans are going to crucify
him. [/quote:812347867f] Eating their young again, are they? Famous Republican saying: "Everything is fine in
politics as long as you don't get caught in bed with a live man, or a dead woman.” Did you hear the one about
destroying Afghanistan to arrest bin Laden (and resume normal Heroin $$ production)? How about the one about Pakistan
telling US forces to keep out & to leave bin Laden alone? How about the one about destroying Iraq & murdering
100,000 ++ to get more "WMDs" (and higher $$ oil prices)? [ Quotes: Family Guy: Peter [Riding a circus
elephant] Peter: Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened
by change. ] HTH -- Cliff
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View entire thread: Flutter, flutter... Ooh, he's growing up (Not totsally OT!)
Posted by Kate Dicey on Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:34 PM Post subject: Re: Flutter, flutter... Ooh, he's growing up (Not totsally O
off kilter quilter@somwherequiet.net wrote: [quote:77414b27fa]ARGH!!! You mean it takes a few more years to get them
to understand the concept of cleaning their rooms or else it gets thrown away??? I did a major cleaning/re-arranging
with DS earlier this summer and got rid of 2 HUGE trash bags full of stuff. Most of it went to Goodwill. He now has a
computer desk in his room (courtesy of the local secondhand shop) and is plugging away at his educational software. DH
helped him get it all set up and running. I have informed DS that if the desk gets too cluttered for him to work on, it
needs to get cleared off into the trash can. [/quote:77414b27fa] Any sort of computer in the bedroom has been vetoed for
a few more years. teen age boys can be anti-social enough without giving them another excuse! Not only that, but any
net surfing has to be done BEFORE bed time, and in the same room as mum watching the telly! Kinda puts the kybosh on
surfing unsavoury stuff! ;) AND severely limits his game playing hours... :D [quote:77414b27fa] Little does he know
that, as Christmas gets closer, more things will find new homes. I started this when he was little - if new toys come
into his room, old toys (particularly the ones that he doesn't really play with) find their way out. I do it with DD as
well, but she doesn't have anywhere near as many things as DS does - probably because he's been accumulating for 3.5
more years! [/quote:77414b27fa] Oh, we get James to weed out the stuff he's finished with, clean it, match up all the
bits into kits, bag or box it up, and put it in the charity box collection, where it either goes to the Demelza House
shop (the local kids hospice), or gets free-cycled. we have half a dozen Action Men that are due for the Big Elbow
Treatment, when we get time! :) [quote:77414b27fa] He does get a small allowance for chores he does around the house
(does NOT include cleaning his room) and he has been told that we are NOT buying him anymore: Rescue Heroes, Batman,
Spiderman, super-heroes in general, G.I. Joes. Have told him that if he wants them, he needs to save up the money for
them. Have to keep reminding him of that when we go to the store and he asks for things...."Mommy, can you buy me
'x'?", "Honey, where's your money?", "At home, in my bank.", "Then I guess you don't get
anything today." He usually tries to throw a fit at this, but I remind him that we are treating him like a big boy
and allowing him to earn an allowance ($1.00/wk based on a scale system for the various chores....decreased if he
doesn't do something he's supposed to), which he is to use for buying his continual supply of action figures
<sigh>. [/quote:77414b27fa] James gets a quid a week for sweets. Anything else he has to save birthday and
Christmas present money for, from Grandparents and Godparents and the like. [quote:77414b27fa] Today, he did a pretty
good job of cleaning up the room after I moved furniture for the new desk. I had to wipe piles of junk onto the floor
to move bookcases and the old desk that isn't worth anything (wouldn't hold the monitor at all, no point in having it
take up space). Told him that we would NOT hook up the computer until he got things picked up, including the bits of
flotsam that floated everywhere (for some reason, he collects the inserts fro magazines and keeps them <sigh>).
His room hasn't looked this good since I did a thorough once-over!!! Just need to dig out the vacuum for him :-)
[/quote:77414b27fa] I put a crate in James's room: in it we dumped everything that was in the 'wrong' place, and today
he's sorting that out: gets sorted, or it goes in the bin at the end of the weekend. As the bin men come first thing
Monday morning... [quote:77414b27fa] Oh well...off to get some Ott Light time as we are just now getting a little bit of
sun....I hate grey days! [/quote:77414b27fa] Blowing a gale here! NOT what we expect at the start of September! It's
more like November! Chicken broth , hot chiabata bread, and a couple of episodes of Buffy for dinner... And I WILL
sew later! :) -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate
Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore!
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View entire thread: OT: Peeking out from under all the uniforms!
Posted by Scout Lady on Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:58 AM Post subject: Re: Peeking out from under all the uniforms!
"Kenda" <kendalee@comcastREMOVETHIS.net> wrote in message
news:98adna9ne8xSMdvYnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com... [quote:33f4240fd4] "Scout Lady"
<scoutlady@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4qfshqFn0fjkU1@individual.net... Gangs haven't started here but the
teenagers can be very destructive. I think you'd be really suprised to find out they exist even when you don't think
they do. They have gone underground so to speak. The "gangs" no longer call themselves gangs due to the laws
that went into effect approx. 8-10 yrs ago. They are now calling themselves: clicks, possess, ect. If there are gangs
here they are very well behaved because the main teen[/quote:33f4240fd4] crimes here are shoplifting at the mall,
breaking street lights and smashing pumpkins and two years ago one or more of those brats mounted my lighted wire buck
on the doe creating a pornographic Christmas display on my front lawn. ( I think my sons friends did it) Oh and at the
last presidental election the kids switched up the Bush and Kerry signs on peoples front lawns.
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View entire thread: September FO's
Posted by Leah on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:46 PM Post subject: September FO's
Hi all, Still here, just busy as all getout. I did manage to make 3 skinny scarves in September. One from Lion Brand
Fun Fur, one in Bernat's Boa, and a really wonderfully soft one in Zitron's Filou. Actually made these in the round on
16 sts rather than make flat and sew up, so the fuzzy sides are out all the way around no matter how you drape them. I
would have made them all in Filou, but the color selection is very limited. Also considered Lana's Amsterdam, which is
also very soft, but again colors are scarce! Haven't taken any pictures of those yet, just got busy on a request for
hats for the needy as the temperature is getting ready to drop, so that's my project this month, hats. A friend made up
a quick knitting machine pattern using durable worsted weight Red Heart from afghan leftovers, so I can make stripes or
do other color work using her pattern. She had planned on making a Harry Potter Prisoner Of Azkaban stripe style hat
using that pattern for another friend, but she died unexpectedly, and so my friend couldn't make one for her, but she is
happy to share her pattern. I plan on making 3 for The Ships Project (1 done already) for those in the military
freezing on ships in the ocean, and 3 for Hats For The Homeless to help those less fortunate, especially teens and
adults, as it seems babies get plenty of charity items like blankets and clothes, but the older ones often fall through
the cracks, and I remember being really cold as a poor teen. I'm thinking I may make mittens to go with the teen or
adult hats, because my hands were almost always cold in the winter! What did you finish in September? Leah
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View entire thread: You won't believe this
Posted by DAB on Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:42 AM Post subject: Re: You won't believe this
Vintage Purls wrote: [quote:ef3ec50b79]spampot wrote: when I turned it over and on the back was "Knit Lite."
Lighted knitting needles. Yes!! For a mere $15.95, you can own a pair of plastic needles (sizes 6, 8, 9, 10, 10.5, 11,
13, or 15), 18 inches long, with LED tips that use G3-A batteries to make them glow! I just saw these yesterday on the
Clover website. I was rather stunned for a while - I just can't imagine why I'd (or anybody) would want lighted knitting
needles. Very odd. ) [/quote:ef3ec50b79] Maybe the teen knitters will rush out to get em for slumber parties.....our
local Joann Fabrics and Michaels has em. Donna
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View entire thread: Helllloooooooooooooo?
Posted by ellice on Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:42 PM Post subject: Re: Helllloooooooooooooo?
On 10/21/06 10:37 AM, "Lucille" <lzolty@adelphia.net> wrote: [quote:19bee7c4c5] "ellice"
<egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C15FA612.1430%egirl22@verizon.net... *snip* - and downstairs a very
casual sandwhich/coffee/bakery stop (counter & takeout). Evidently, someone had been put at our lovely reserved
corner table in the main dining room, and as we didn't want to sit by the kitchen passage we were happy to move to the
rear garden room - by a window - very nice. However .... The table just adjacent - over DH's shoulder - had 6 people -
evidently an older couple (mid- 60s), a woman that looked about 30 from the rear and was likely about 60 (with a
stretched face-lift, really straw like bleached out hair, and the obligatory leopard print stretch top to go with her
enormous Chanel bag), her husband (we think) and a couple in their mid-early 30s. The blonde - she was tanked. Really
tanked. The other older woman was her sister - who wasn't quite as tanked - but sounded like she either came from
munchkin land or was inhaling helium. The young couple, and older gent were fine - and the other guy - well, we
realized that when he spoke he was quite slurred, and DH thought he was going to break his neck between the head
flopping back to stare at the lights, and then flopping forward into the table. The "blonde" was shrieking,
arms waving, telling tales - and sadly - they weren't even funny. Finely - at least twice - when all the tables around
turned to look - the older guy and the young guy did the stage whisper "SHHHHHH" . We figured out it was the
older woman's birthday, and the young couple - her son. We actually *snip* I'm delighted that you had such a great
day, but I must take exception to something in the "older" couple remark. It's not bad to be 60, or in my
case somewhat older, and still look like thirty from behind. I just happen to be one of those people who get shocked
looks when I turn around and others realize that I'm not a kid any more. Of course that's because I weigh under 100
lbs. and I'm a little over 5' tall, and most of all because I refuse to dress like an "old" lady. No face
lift, or tight leopard print stretch tops, but I do love to dress in denims and t-shirts and/or casual clothes and
refuse to wear pastel polyester. Lucille [/quote:19bee7c4c5] Lucill,e - please don't take exception - I'm sure you look
lovely. It'f great to look younger than your age. But, I'd really be surprised if you looked like this woman - who
was so over the top and inappropriate. Between the tight leopard top (and I don't know any "young" people -
except kids that would wear this), the shiny spandex pants tucked into the boots, and the overbleached yellow-straw like
platinum with the roots showing through, and the way too tight eye stretch - I'm not sure how else to set the picture.
Given the situation - the couples in their 60s were "older" - the couple in the 30s - are younger. That's
just adjectives. I didn't say they were decrepit, ancient, belonged in a home, shouldn't be out in public, or use any
derogatory terms. My DM never wore polyester outfits, my parents dies when they were in their early 60s, and we think
of them as having been young when they dies. My DM wore nice jeans, a lot of slacks, and really cute dresses/ or
outfits - casual - but cute. There is however a certain easy to see sort of look, mostly remarkable when it's a woman
- that has that harsh, trying to hard not just to look younger, or youthful and show their energy, but absurdly younger
- as in someone who's clearly in their 40s trying to dress like a teen, expecially at work (and I've had that with some
at work) or someone who's pretty clearly much older - as in this woman's case - the hair, the look from behind was like
someone hanging out a lot at the local bar - and in good shape - spandex from top to bottom - in which case you say -
okay - some bad taste in clothes - and she's drunk/loud. When she turned - it was clear that she was much older than
the "rear" view - and her hands were definitely older - complete with talons, and lots, lots. Lots of
bracelets. Then you just think - well, it's a more desperate kind of look as opposed to aging well and looking great.
One of my best friedns is tiny - a size 4, no body fat, very fit & athletic - and only about 5'4" - when we
were in our 30s - she could get away with dressing like a tennager - at times. Even in the 40s - when you see her from
behind - she's a stunner. From up front - and this is a beautiful woman - but who has spent way too much time in the
tanning booth - her age is now showing. I'd trade for the shape, but even DH says it's getting a little kind of odd -
when we're out - she'll get a lot of attention - especially from guys passing at hockey games - but then you can see the
surprise when we're talking up close - that they realize she's not 22. I had an older colleague whose wife was born in
Ukraine. No doubt a gorgeous woman in her youth, and they had twin daughters. When we were all at some conference
together and it was very interesting. The wife - who is nice, and reminded us of a Gabor sister (very kind of ditzy,
but sweet) dressed very glamorously, kind of over the top in a mix of old and young, and lots of make-up all the time.
The girls, then seniors in high school - were pretty - however - they all wore a lot of the same clothes. It was weird
- these 2 17 year old girls were wearing clothes that were best described as 17 yearolds looking like 50 year olds
trying to look 25. Way too overdone, and just old, and lots of heavy make-up. End effect - wasn't a teen trying to
look 21 - just weird. My other female colleagues - well we actually all noticed this. It was just strange. Mom was in
her mid-50's, and the whole picture of these lovely woman/girls was kind of askew. IT was interesting. When some
people met the girls first - one of the guys asked the dad later if those were his "older girls" as he was
surprised that Dr. X had kids in their 30s. Ouch - Dr. x. was a close friend of mine, and I felt bad, but what do you
say - ummm, well, they are a bit overdressed??? Sorry if you were offended - not meant to be. ellice
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View entire thread: Helllloooooooooooooo?
Posted by Lucille on Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:02 PM Post subject: Re: Helllloooooooooooooo?
"ellice" <egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C160FB83.145D%egirl22@verizon.net...
[quote:52fae1559c]On 10/21/06 10:37 AM, "Lucille" <lzolty@adelphia.net> wrote: "ellice"
<egirl22@verizon.net> wrote in message news:C15FA612.1430%egirl22@verizon.net... *snip* - and downstairs a very
casual sandwhich/coffee/bakery stop (counter & takeout). Evidently, someone had been put at our lovely reserved
corner table in the main dining room, and as we didn't want to sit by the kitchen passage we were happy to move to the
rear garden room - by a window - very nice. However .... The table just adjacent - over DH's shoulder - had 6 people -
evidently an older couple (mid- 60s), a woman that looked about 30 from the rear and was likely about 60 (with a
stretched face-lift, really straw like bleached out hair, and the obligatory leopard print stretch top to go with her
enormous Chanel bag), her husband (we think) and a couple in their mid-early 30s. The blonde - she was tanked. Really
tanked. The other older woman was her sister - who wasn't quite as tanked - but sounded like she either came from
munchkin land or was inhaling helium. The young couple, and older gent were fine - and the other guy - well, we
realized that when he spoke he was quite slurred, and DH thought he was going to break his neck between the head
flopping back to stare at the lights, and then flopping forward into the table. The "blonde" was shrieking,
arms waving, telling tales - and sadly - they weren't even funny. Finely - at least twice - when all the tables around
turned to look - the older guy and the young guy did the stage whisper "SHHHHHH" . We figured out it was the
older woman's birthday, and the young couple - her son. We actually *snip* I'm delighted that you had such a great
day, but I must take exception to something in the "older" couple remark. It's not bad to be 60, or in my
case somewhat older, and still look like thirty from behind. I just happen to be one of those people who get shocked
looks when I turn around and others realize that I'm not a kid any more. Of course that's because I weigh under 100
lbs. and I'm a little over 5' tall, and most of all because I refuse to dress like an "old" lady. No face
lift, or tight leopard print stretch tops, but I do love to dress in denims and t-shirts and/or casual clothes and
refuse to wear pastel polyester. Lucille Lucill,e - please don't take exception - I'm sure you look lovely. It'f
great to look younger than your age. But, I'd really be surprised if you looked like this woman - who was so over the
top and inappropriate. Between the tight leopard top (and I don't know any "young" people - except kids that
would wear this), the shiny spandex pants tucked into the boots, and the overbleached yellow-straw like platinum with
the roots showing through, and the way too tight eye stretch - I'm not sure how else to set the picture. Given the
situation - the couples in their 60s were "older" - the couple in the 30s - are younger. That's just
adjectives. I didn't say they were decrepit, ancient, belonged in a home, shouldn't be out in public, or use any
derogatory terms. My DM never wore polyester outfits, my parents dies when they were in their early 60s, and we think
of them as having been young when they dies. My DM wore nice jeans, a lot of slacks, and really cute dresses/ or
outfits - casual - but cute. There is however a certain easy to see sort of look, mostly remarkable when it's a woman
- that has that harsh, trying to hard not just to look younger, or youthful and show their energy, but absurdly younger
- as in someone who's clearly in their 40s trying to dress like a teen, expecially at work (and I've had that with some
at work) or someone who's pretty clearly much older - as in this woman's case - the hair, the look from behind was like
someone hanging out a lot at the local bar - and in good shape - spandex from top to bottom - in which case you say -
okay - some bad taste in clothes - and she's drunk/loud. When she turned - it was clear that she was much older than
the "rear" view - and her hands were definitely older - complete with talons, and lots, lots. Lots of
bracelets. Then you just think - well, it's a more desperate kind of look as opposed to aging well and looking great.
One of my best friedns is tiny - a size 4, no body fat, very fit & athletic - and only about 5'4" - when we
were in our 30s - she could get away with dressing like a tennager - at times. Even in the 40s - when you see her from
behind - she's a stunner. From up front - and this is a beautiful woman - but who has spent way too much time in the
tanning booth - her age is now showing. I'd trade for the shape, but even DH says it's getting a little kind of odd -
when we're out - she'll get a lot of attention - especially from guys passing at hockey games - but then you can see the
surprise when we're talking up close - that they realize she's not 22. I had an older colleague whose wife was born in
Ukraine. No doubt a gorgeous woman in her youth, and they had twin daughters. When we were all at some conference
together and it was very interesting. The wife - who is nice, and reminded us of a Gabor sister (very kind of ditzy,
but sweet) dressed very glamorously, kind of over the top in a mix of old and young, and lots of make-up all the time.
The girls, then seniors in high school - were pretty - however - they all wore a lot of the same clothes. It was weird
- these 2 17 year old girls were wearing clothes that were best described as 17 yearolds looking like 50 year olds
trying to look 25. Way too overdone, and just old, and lots of heavy make-up. End effect - wasn't a teen trying to
look 21 - just weird. My other female colleagues - well we actually all noticed this. It was just strange. Mom was in
her mid-50's, and the whole picture of these lovely woman/girls was kind of askew. IT was interesting. When some
people met the girls first - one of the guys asked the dad later if those were his "older girls" as he was
surprised that Dr. X had kids in their 30s. Ouch - Dr. x. was a close friend of mine, and I felt bad, but what do you
say - ummm, well, they are a bit overdressed??? Sorry if you were offended - not meant to be. ellice
[/quote:52fae1559c] Oh, I'm sorry Please don't be upset. I was just pulling your chain and I wasn't at all angry or
offended. Rather I was just pointing out that some of us are little, thin, reasonably well built people and at the
same time are "older." I'm one of those lucky ones. I would, however, like to say that tacky is tacky no
matter the age and the person you described would be tacky whether she was 15 or 50. Don't laugh but one of my biggest
problems is finding clothes that are appropriate for a 70 year old when you wear a size 2 or 3. Just picture a
silver haired lady dressed as a teeny bopper and you'll see what I mean. I know, a lot of you are thinking "I
should be lucky enough to have that problem," but it is sometimes a challenge to find conservative clothes in my
size. Casual isn't too big a deal because I live mostly in jeans and t-shirts, but dressy can be a pain. That's why
it's such fun to shop. It's like a treasure hunt. Lucille >
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Posted by tegan57@gmail.com on Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:16 AM Post subject: Re: OT: Vissitudes of hunting
lucretia borgia wrote: <snipped stuff from Dr. Brat and myself> [quote:fc99768b0f] I agree but would like to
switch there, my younger granddaughter likes hunting time with her dad. Actually I know several female hunters, it's
not that uncommon here. [/quote:fc99768b0f] Yes, it's even common around here, but that one particular incident has
stuck with me, as normally the teen in my comment is one of the more annoying bits of adolescence that comes into the
store. On that day, he was just so proud of himself he was even using "yes ma'am" and "no ma'am"
with out any prompts from Dad. I knew I was being a wee bit sexist, but it was just to try and make the point. Teegs
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Posted by tegan57@gmail.com on Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:16 AM Post subject: Re: OT: Vissitudes of hunting
lucretia borgia wrote: <snipped stuff from Dr. Brat and myself> [quote:eb0ee23cdd] I agree but would like to
switch there, my younger granddaughter likes hunting time with her dad. Actually I know several female hunters, it's
not that uncommon here. [/quote:eb0ee23cdd] Yes, it's even common around here, but that one particular incident has
stuck with me, as normally the teen in my comment is one of the more annoying bits of adolescence that comes into the
store. On that day, he was just so proud of himself he was even using "yes ma'am" and "no ma'am"
with out any prompts from Dad. I knew I was being a wee bit sexist, but it was just to try and make the point. Teegs
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Posted by lucretia borgia on Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:46 AM Post subject: Re: OT: Vissitudes of hunting
"tegan57@gmail.com" <tegan57@gmail.com>,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with
[quote:f92382b401] lucretia borgia wrote: snipped stuff from Dr. Brat and myself I agree but would like to switch
there, my younger granddaughter likes hunting time with her dad. Actually I know several female hunters, it's not that
uncommon here. Yes, it's even common around here, but that one particular incident has stuck with me, as normally the
teen in my comment is one of the more annoying bits of adolescence that comes into the store. On that day, he was just
so proud of himself he was even using "yes ma'am" and "no ma'am" with out any prompts from Dad. I
knew I was being a wee bit sexist, but it was just to try and make the point. Teegs [/quote:f92382b401] I like that 'one
of the more annoying bits of adolescence' -I shall think of you when I see one around here lol
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Posted by Kate G. on Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:54 AM Post subject: Re: OT - Halloween DONE!
I don't really mind it when the "kids" push the age limit a bit (some were taller than me!) if they actually
take the trouble to don a costume. But when they just show up -- they get one mini-mini tootsie-roll -- everybody in
costume gets Hershey bars/reeses cup (something big) or 3 or 4 little things. One kid asked if that was all he got...
I told him that was all his costume was worth and he gave me a dirty look. Another I told that his mask was
particularly ugly and scary this year (he wasn't wearing one!) Oh well... I made it through without TP or eggs on the
lawn! Kate in MI http://community.webshots.com/user/K_Groves -- "Sandy Ellison"
<eltex@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:C170DF7F.D91A%eltex@sbcglobal.net... [quote:026b442ffa]Howdy! How
fun! Good for y'all! I don't decorate that elaborately (esp. w/ the wind blowing gale-force) but I manage to amuse the
neighborhood. I love the trick-or-treaters; we get about 50-70, (unlike the truck-loads of kids and grown-ups we'd see
when we lived down on the border in s.Tx.). Business stops by 8:00 now, but I keep the lights on until 10 pm. It was
chilly for us, w/ a cold front blowing in, about 45* by bedtime; no snow, tho', as you had (& as I remember from my
childhood in Illinois). My favorites t-or-t were the family behind us: 6 yr.old boy who I didn't recognize at first,
dressed up in a wonderfully furry wolf costume; he was in a crowd of several groups that came at once. Then I recognized
his little sister dressed up as Little Red Riding Hood-- WONDERFULLY gorgeous, accompanied by her real grandma dressed
as Granny, who pointed out Grandpa dressed as The Woodsman standing at the curb w/ his big cardboard ax on his shoulder.
It was delightful! I laughed so hard, told Red's mama that "I want pictures!" Second favorite get-up: this
teen-ager in a hospital gown and band-aids on his face. He grinned so big; I said, "I hope you get to feeling
better soon!" and he replied, "I'll be okay if I don't freeze my butt off!" and turned around to show a
big, plastic, bare butt hanging out of the back of the gown. LOL We all yelled and hooted over that one. Then there
was the kid in black robes and ghoulish face w/ the big red nose; I called him "Grim Reaper does the Comedy
Club" and he laughed. These kids are pretty big for trick-or-treating but the great costumes & some personality
win me over. I like the way the night sounds as the kids go running up the street, calling and laughing and having a
good time. It's over too soon. No quilting gets done but I do enjoy our (peaceful) Halloween. Cheers! Ragmop/Sandy
On 11/3/06 12:00 AM, in article XVA2h.40196$P7.28393@edtnps89, "~KK in BC~" koffeekupz@hotmail.com> wrote:
and soon to be stored away till next summer when I can pull stuff out and fix and re-vamp some of it again. We had a
blast! Scared some of them really goooood <eg> My oldest son who moved away this summer even had to come home to
help out and enjoy it. He said if he had to choose what holiday to come home for, Christmas or Halloween, it was going
to be Halloween LOL We had about 160 kids this year, way down from last year, but it was COLD and we had just had about
a foot and a half of snow a couple days beforehand. This is our third year of haunting, and so far no end in sight.
This is something I really enjoy (even more than quilting but shhh.... don't tell!!! ) I make all our own stuff for the
haunt, from tombstones to the guys standing around. I love working with these things and I love the enjoyment that the
kids and adult alike get out of our yard. We even made the news and a mini local TV show this year! Here are a couple
pictures of our haunt this year, snow all around but it was a good time anyway. (Oh and the temps were right around 0F
*-18C by the end of the evening around 9:30pm) ~KK in BC~ who can now get back to the sewing area soon. From one hobby
to the next as long as the body allows me to keep plugging away at stuff.
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:59 PM Post subject: Re: OT - Halloween DONE!
Howdy! How fun! Good for y'all! I don't decorate that elaborately (esp. w/ the wind blowing gale-force) but I manage
to amuse the neighborhood. I love the trick-or-treaters; we get about 50-70, (unlike the truck-loads of kids and grown-
ups we'd see when we lived down on the border in s.Tx.). Business stops by 8:00 now, but I keep the lights on until 10
pm. It was chilly for us, w/ a cold front blowing in, about 45* by bedtime; no snow, tho', as you had (& as I
remember from my childhood in Illinois). My favorites t-or-t were the family behind us: 6 yr.old boy who I didn't
recognize at first, dressed up in a wonderfully furry wolf costume; he was in a crowd of several groups that came at
once. Then I recognized his little sister dressed up as Little Red Riding Hood-- WONDERFULLY gorgeous, accompanied by
her real grandma dressed as Granny, who pointed out Grandpa dressed as The Woodsman standing at the curb w/ his big
cardboard ax on his shoulder. It was delightful! I laughed so hard, told Red's mama that "I want pictures!"
Second favorite get-up: this teen-ager in a hospital gown and band-aids on his face. He grinned so big; I said,
"I hope you get to feeling better soon!" and he replied, "I'll be okay if I don't freeze my butt
off!" and turned around to show a big, plastic, bare butt hanging out of the back of the gown. LOL We all
yelled and hooted over that one. Then there was the kid in black robes and ghoulish face w/ the big red nose; I called
him "Grim Reaper does the Comedy Club" and he laughed. These kids are pretty big for trick-or-treating but the
great costumes & some personality win me over. I like the way the night sounds as the kids go running up the
street, calling and laughing and having a good time. It's over too soon. No quilting gets done but I do enjoy our
(peaceful) Halloween. Cheers! Ragmop/Sandy On 11/3/06 12:00 AM, in article XVA2h.40196$P7.28393@edtnps89, "~KK
in BC~" <koffeekupz@hotmail.com> wrote: [quote:0a1578b222]and soon to be stored away till next summer when I
can pull stuff out and fix and re-vamp some of it again. We had a blast! Scared some of them really goooood <eg>
My oldest son who moved away this summer even had to come home to help out and enjoy it. He said if he had to choose
what holiday to come home for, Christmas or Halloween, it was going to be Halloween LOL We had about 160 kids this
year, way down from last year, but it was COLD and we had just had about a foot and a half of snow a couple days
beforehand. This is our third year of haunting, and so far no end in sight. This is something I really enjoy (even more
than quilting but shhh.... don't tell!!! ) I make all our own stuff for the haunt, from tombstones to the guys standing
around. I love working with these things and I love the enjoyment that the kids and adult alike get out of our yard. We
even made the news and a mini local TV show this year! Here are a couple pictures of our haunt this year, snow all
around but it was a good time anyway. (Oh and the temps were right around 0F *-18C by the end of the evening around
9:30pm) ~KK in BC~ who can now get back to the sewing area soon. From one hobby to the next as long as the body allows
me to keep plugging away at stuff.
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:43 AM Post subject: Re: Egg Money Quilts, Chickens, Bull, & Storm at Sea quilt ;
Howdy! Eleanor's site explains it pretty well: http://www.quiltinaday.com/shoponline/books_display.asp?i=2052
"Before the 1940's, most eggs were produced on rural farms with small flocks that scratched their way around the
barnyard. The farmer's wife was usually responsible for caring for her chickens and the money received from the sale of
the eggs was hers. Surely, some fabric was purchased with this precious fund and from that came the quilt patterns
uniquely associated with the Depression years of the 1930's. During a time of hardship in America, there were still many
things for which to be thankful. Life was simple, people neighborly, and quilts not only useful but also an
extraordinary expression of imagination. Journey back to the times when milk was 14 cents a quart and bread 9 cents a
loaf." When my husband was a teen-ager he raised chickens as a hobby and for the egg money; he re-invested his
profits into more chicks and feed, and finally invested a larger sum in his parents' (they were school teachers first of
all) small farm & cattle ranch in south Texas (54 acres, 45 head of cattle), specifically a registered poled
(hornless) Santa Gertudis bull calf w/ bloodlines going back to the famous Texas King Ranch, which pretty well ate up
his savings. <g> He did learn a lot about running a small business, and he spent a bit of the money on whatever
teen-age boys thought they must have "back then." <g> He still admires the variety of fancy chickens
and would like to have a small flock here at home-- I don't think so. <G> However!!!! He never bought any
quilting fabric, not even a spool of thread. LOL (He's laughing, too.) By the way, speaking of chicken ranching,
our dear Carolyn-who-was-in-Harlinen made this Storm At Sea quilt when she was herding chickens near that same s.Tx.
farm/ranch: http://pages.prodigy.net/ledbottom/starsea.html Ragmop/Sandy -- http://santagertrudis.com/ Rhode Island
Reds: http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGP/Reds/BRKRIR.html On 9/24/06 6:12 PM, in article
Xns9849C3B36D6Fmininospamateasycom@212.40.5.54, "mini Mini" <mini@nospam.easy.com> wrote:
[quote:f8020dbebf]"Cats" <CATS@NO.SPAM.com> wrote in news:45170ba4$1_1@news.chariot.net.au:
http://tinyurl.com/pmm7b ebay has some I don't ebay at all, but if you do you might be lucky and get one a lot cheaper.
I have seen them around as cheap as $23US and overstock.com had it listed out-of-stock but for less than $18. Hunt
around - you might be lucky next time. This is the second time in a few weeks I've heard the term Egg Money Quilts...
What are Egg Money Quilts? I know this is the title of a book, but are egg money quilts like nickel quilts where the
fabric cost as much as you would spend on eggs?? (after re-reading this it sounds like a silly question, but I'm going
to ask it anyway. I'll be back in the morning to find out... :o) Emilia [/quote:f8020dbebf]
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:17 AM Post subject: Re: 3 lovely words Re: OT Bored kids (was Re: ping Wendy)
Howdy! I don't have any going-back-to-schoolers, either, T. But it's getting those kids off the street and out of the
stores that makes me happy to see the "big yellow taxis" picking up the local darlings and hauling their busy
little butts back to school that makes me welcome the turn of the season. <VBG> So many intersections w/ ignored
stop signs between my house and the quilt shops--oy! And the fancy new public swimming pool opened just up the street,
this summer, more traffic to dodge, most of it frazzled parents and ignorant teen drivers. Does anyone pay attention to
Driver's Ed anymore?!!!? What does "right of way" mean? And that big red octagon that says STOP in the middle
--what's that all about? Oh, yes, I welcome the return of the school semesters. Summer is highly over-rated. <g>
Ragmop/Sandy--preparing to start little quilt 2 for the day... On 7/28/06 6:17 PM, in article
aWwyg.603$jt.327@trnddc04, "Taria" <tariawilson@verizon.net> wrote: [quote:2e364ab83e]and here I am
almost feeling bad cause I don't have any real back to schoolers this year. Getting out for the summer and going back to
school were two of this moms favorite times of the year ;) Love that Staples ad. Don't miss the PTA at all : ) Taria
Sandy Ellison wrote: Howdy! Cruising past a shopping center this week I saw these 3 lovely words on a store front,
advertising their current sale: Back To School Saw them at Target, too. <VBG Like the Staples ad says, "It's
the most wonderful time of the year!" Ragmop/Sandy -- just quilting away in beautiful north Texas where school
starts August 14 8- [/quote:2e364ab83e]
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Posted by Taria on Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:55 AM Post subject: Re: 3 lovely words Re: OT Bored kids (was Re: ping Wendy)
I was dropping off a mess of kids at the high school 6 years ago or so and realized that kids learn a lot about driving
with the dropping off and picking up in school parking lots. It is the worst of the worst. The teens are not so hot
but the moms were the absolute terrors! More rude drivers gathered there than any other place I have ever been. Don't
miss that : ) Taria Sandy Ellison wrote: [quote:1bf6e34511]Howdy! I don't have any going-back-to-schoolers, either, T.
But it's getting those kids off the street and out of the stores that makes me happy to see the "big yellow
taxis" picking up the local darlings and hauling their busy little butts back to school that makes me welcome the
turn of the season. <VBG So many intersections w/ ignored stop signs between my house and the quilt shops--oy!
And the fancy new public swimming pool opened just up the street, this summer, more traffic to dodge, most of it
frazzled parents and ignorant teen drivers. Does anyone pay attention to Driver's Ed anymore?!!!? What does "right
of way" mean? And that big red octagon that says STOP in the middle--what's that all about? Oh, yes, I welcome
the return of the school semesters. Summer is highly over-rated. <g Ragmop/Sandy--preparing to start little quilt 2
for the day... [/quote:1bf6e34511]
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Posted by mini Mini on Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:02 PM Post subject: Re: OT proposed discussion: How did you learn to be a "woma
If there is a Sephora near you, you can return stuff there. Not sure about make up but I returned a sun cream that
turned out to have mineral oil in it. I went to buy a different one & the sales lady said to bring back the one I
didn't want! I was surprised, but they took it back. But of course, I spent my money on something else!
"Pauline" <poconel@nospanpacbell.net> wrote in news:geGIg.17561$kO3.5247@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
[quote:c41d9b3449]Well, I concur with some of the other suggestions. If you live in an area that has department stores,
just make a phone call & ask if you can get a complimentary make up consultation with one of their consultants.
Sometimes a particular make-up company will have a special, but most often, even if there isn't a special going on, one
of the consultants will happily do it for you. And there shouldn't be any charge for it. They are hopeful that you'll
spend some money, so it's in their best interests. Most of the make up consultants in department stores are employed by
the manufacturer, not the department store. And don't feel you have to buy everything or anything from them. I always
tell them I need to wear it for the rest of the day to see if my skin reacts to anything - which is true. If the new
product "wears" well, then I go back & buy it. I don't wear a lot of make up - mostly the basics, unless
I'm really dressing up. Every few years, if I feel my look is getting a little stale, I do go to get a make-over at the
make-up counters in the store. It always gives me a little lift & makes me try new techniques or colors. Whatever
you do, don't let them over do you - you won't feel natural. Years ago, I had a makeover & left the store &
drove straight home to wash it all off. I looked like a stage actor!! Regarding hair - not my strength either - but I
try to stay with a fairly "simple" hairstyle, while still looking stylish. I've always threatened to move my
current hairstylist into my house with me, so they can fix my hair in the morning. Do as others have suggested - if you
see a hairstyle you like, ask someone where they get their hair done. Take into consideration if you have fine hair,
curly hair, coarse hair, etc. because someone that has a different texture of hair from yours will end up with a
different look than you. You can also "interview" potential hairstylists to see if you think you will work
well together. See what they suggest & explain how it's a weak area for you, so it needs to be doable for YOU.
Sometimes it takes a few visits for your hairstylist & you to get to a good spot. I also recommend seeing a
dermatologist if your skin is breaking out. Don't try to "fix" it yourself. You need to see a professional.
If you're worried about your weight - try to dress in a way that helps to camoflage the areas you're most concerned
about. This is another area where a good sales person can help you. And remember - you can always return anything you
buy that you have buyers remorse after you get home & try it on again. You can also return make-up - even to drug
stores. (It looked different when I got it home - it made me break out - it creased in my eyelids, etc.) Good luck -
you sound like you need a lift & taking it one step at a time will really help you to feel better about your
appearance. Keep us posted! Pauline "Tricia" <cricket527@e-garfield.com> wrote in message
news:1156777944.773715.83950@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... No offense to our male readers/quilters, but this topic is
weighing on my mind right now and needs discussing AFAIC....Also, right away, let me say, I know there is much more to
being a woman than make up and hair styles and such. Those other (and yes, much more important) things AREN'T the
things I want to discuss in this thread. I had *great* role models for being a strong, self-sufficient (and self-
sacrificing) woman. Please don't flame me for trivalizing what it means to be a woman. If you find this topic
offensive, I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone or incite a riot. I think most of us would probably say that the
teen years is the WHEN in regards to learning to be a "woman" rather than a "girl". During my teen
years my life was pretty screwed up (mom and stepass getting divorced, long lost father back in my life, acquiring a
stepmother, living with an abusive alcoholic, etc. PLUS all the usual teen angst issues). Somewhat as a result (I
think) something "short circuited" in my development in *how* to be a woman rather than a girl, or rather in
some other regards, being an adult vs a child. I didn't have role models for what I'm facing now in any regard.
Specific to the Woman v Girl thing, I know virtually nothing about make up, let alone how to properly apply it so I
don't look like clown or tramp. Forget trying to style my hair (although I have a little more knowledge on that) in
anything other than a basic flyaway ponytail -- it's basically not happening (these days it's more like getting me to do
anything other than use a headband 'cause it only makes a stubby tail). Occassionally I get a perm. I can't manage to
use curlers to save my soul, not even the nice heated ones DH got me a few years ago at my request. Basically when it
comes to being "pretty", "feminine", and "done up", I friggin' suck. Part of it is having
been raised with the mantra that God blessed me and I didn't need make up and stuff to mask it all. For the most part,
I believe the philosophy (in the sense that we are the way we are supposed to be, etc.) and while I tended to leave God
out of it, frequently shared that philosophy with my students (middle schoolers) when the question inevitably came up
why I was one of maybe two or three female teachers in our building who didn't wear make-up. That was fine in that
enviroment -- I might have gotten more respect from some of the adults I dealt with if I had been "done up"
but I got through it okay. I suspect something that is hindering my ability to get hired lately is the fact that I
don't "do" make up and such -- with my baby face (and unfortunately being noticably overweight), I tend to
look younger than my age, which at times translates for some (I suspect) as flighty or incompetent. -- or like I just
"don't care" (current hormone issues resulting in pimples doesn't help dispel that myth either). Besides the
employment issue, I have been pondering trying to find out how to "do" make up properly for a while now --
simply so I *can* do it when the mood/situation strikes -- like going out for a nice evening with my husband or to a
wedding, etc. Hence, realizing I have virtually no knowledge in an area many women seem to have plenty, I thought I'd
ask where that knowledge came from...where did you learn it? Pondering, Tricia [/quote:c41d9b3449]
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Posted by Julia in MN on Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:55 PM Post subject: Re: OT proposed discussion: How did you learn to be a "woma
One more note to all the good advice that everyone has given you -- if you go to a hair stylist for a new
"do", take along some pictures of hairdos you like. Cut them out of magazines (pay or find them on the
internet (try googling hairdo pictures). Ask the stylist if the styles you like are appropriate for your hair type; if
not, ask him/her to suggest some alternatives. I have fine, very straight hair and I find that a short, straight cut
works best for me. I like curls, but perms are too hard on my hair. Mine is a low maintenance hairdo (shampoo, gel,
and go) that works fine for my casual, retired lifestyle. On the rare occasion that I am dressing up, I can touch it up
with a curling iron. I had longer hair for awhile, but I was always pulling it back and I decided it really made me
look older, so it was back to my old reliable short do. Julia in MN Tricia wrote: [quote:1003642c28]No offense to our
male readers/quilters, but this topic is weighing on my mind right now and needs discussing AFAIC....Also, right away,
let me say, I know there is much more to being a woman than make up and hair styles and such. Those other (and yes,
much more important) things AREN'T the things I want to discuss in this thread. I had *great* role models for being a
strong, self-sufficient (and self-sacrificing) woman. Please don't flame me for trivalizing what it means to be a
woman. If you find this topic offensive, I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone or incite a riot. I think most of us
would probably say that the teen years is the WHEN in regards to learning to be a "woman" rather than a
"girl". During my teen years my life was pretty screwed up (mom and stepass getting divorced, long lost
father back in my life, acquiring a stepmother, living with an abusive alcoholic, etc. PLUS all the usual teen angst
issues). Somewhat as a result (I think) something "short circuited" in my development in *how* to be a woman
rather than a girl, or rather in some other regards, being an adult vs a child. I didn't have role models for what I'm
facing now in any regard. Specific to the Woman v Girl thing, I know virtually nothing about make up, let alone how to
properly apply it so I don't look like clown or tramp. Forget trying to style my hair (although I have a little more
knowledge on that) in anything other than a basic flyaway ponytail -- it's basically not happening (these days it's more
like getting me to do anything other than use a headband 'cause it only makes a stubby tail). Occassionally I get a
perm. I can't manage to use curlers to save my soul, not even the nice heated ones DH got me a few years ago at my
request. Basically when it comes to being "pretty", "feminine", and "done up", I friggin'
suck. Part of it is having been raised with the mantra that God blessed me and I didn't need make up and stuff to mask
it all. For the most part, I believe the philosophy (in the sense that we are the way we are supposed to be, etc.) and
while I tended to leave God out of it, frequently shared that philosophy with my students (middle schoolers) when the
question inevitably came up why I was one of maybe two or three female teachers in our building who didn't wear make-up.
That was fine in that enviroment -- I might have gotten more respect from some of the adults I dealt with if I had been
"done up" but I got through it okay. I suspect something that is hindering my ability to get hired lately is
the fact that I don't "do" make up and such -- with my baby face (and unfortunately being noticably
overweight), I tend to look younger than my age, which at times translates for some (I suspect) as flighty or
incompetent. -- or like I just "don't care" (current hormone issues resulting in pimples doesn't help dispel
that myth either). Besides the employment issue, I have been pondering trying to find out how to "do" make up
properly for a while now -- simply so I *can* do it when the mood/situation strikes -- like going out for a nice evening
with my husband or to a wedding, etc. Hence, realizing I have virtually no knowledge in an area many women seem to have
plenty, I thought I'd ask where that knowledge came from...where did you learn it? Pondering, Tricia
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Posted by Roberta Zollner on Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:57 PM Post subject: Re: OT proposed discussion: How did you learn to LOOK LIKE
Sandy, I've seen you and you're beautiful! Tricia, here's a (((hug))). You've been sounding more and more cheerful as
this thread continues, but if you still need a lift, get hold of all the books in the "Ladies' #1 Detective
Agency" series by Alexander McCall Smith. I simply love the description of the "traditionally built"
main character and her absolute confidence in herself! Roberta in D, who once would have committed a serious crime in
return for thick red hair "Sandy Ellison" <eltex@sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:C118C0F8.9A2B%eltex@sbcglobal.net... [quote:9a36dc99b5]Howdy! [[[[[Tricia]]]]] My mom thinks "make-up"
is her lipstick and maybe a stroke of that turquoise eyeshadow that was so popular in the early 1970s. When she sees
me w/ a blend of eyeshadow and/or a touch --just a touch-- of blusher on my face-- she calls me an ugly name. I got
over that years ago; no need to carry her baggage w/ me, right? So I didn't grow up doing the girly-girly toilette
routine, either. Lucky for me, long, straight, shiny hair was THE trend in my teens. However, in my mid-twenties it was
way past time to ditch the ponytails and do something about my "complexion." Went to a local lady's wear shop,
asked about "nice clothes", got fitted for the "correct support garments" <g>, and then
swallowed my embarrassment and said, "Any advice on make-up?" Since then I've worn an oil-free base
foundation, light dusting of loose powder, and a bit of color on my eyes, and try to keep some lip color to stay on.
<G> The light layer of foundation and powder really helps keep the oil under control, cuts down on the zits, and
makes me look like I at least tried to fit into the "normal" for grown-up American women. <g Tricia, STOP
getting your hair permed. Very few women look good w/ permed hair; so many just go w/ that crinkly look, not styling
that perm, and that looks worse than flat, straight hair. A nice layered cut puts some bounce in your hair, and in
your step: when you like your hair you feel better. Color it any way you please; changing hair color is easy, fun, and
much healthier than those damned perms! Got a shopping mall near you? The gals (mostly women) at the make-up counters
enjoy giving lessons in how to best use their products, for YOUR skin, how to make you look good. One of my best friends
works for Dior at a local Dillard's Dept. store. She's gorgeous at age 55, loves make-up (always has) and got the job
when she got divorced 8 yrs. ago; she's quite a success. Part of her success in selling her products is that she knows
How To: how to go w/ a light, day look, how to go w/ more color or deeper shades for glamour, how to play up eyes, make
a fuller mouth, how to choose the right color of foundation. That's what the make-up sellers are trained to do. I've
gone to her special make-up sales and had a complete "do" to increase her sales numbers, tho' I seldom buy
anything. I'm just not spending that much money on make-up. Walgreens, CVS, grocery stores supply most of what I
prefer, oil-free, light-weight, throw=out-the-leftovers make-up. Mary Kay: can't wear the stuff, myself; haven't agreed
w/ the 3 salesladies at the "parties" I attended: I refuse to wear pink make-up. I attend these parties for
good friends; "This is a party? You better have good refreshments!" <g My Avon lady keeps me supplied w/
good moisturizers and other products that keep my complexion clear(er). Go to an "Expert" and find the right
products for yourself, then go to a shop that sells something similar for a more reasonable price that fits your budget.
IF your complexion is driving you crazy, see your doctor. You can get a prescription that helps your skin from the
inside out. My skin has been noticeably clearer since I gave up drinking soda pop in March. You need to feel better
about the way you look. This is a place to start. And to feel better about yourself: give up the old crap from the
way you were raised. You don't live w/ those people any more; move on! Being overweight: my mom never passes up a
chance to mention it. She's not, never has been; I take after my dad's side of the family, tall & "BIG",
or short & round. No one force feeds me. I've proved to myself I can lose weight. Most people can. It's the
obsessing about it that makes me sick. (Can't watch Oprah anymore, she's all about her body image! Get the fu## over
it!) My tall, slender older brother said to me a few years ago, "Mom always makes smartass cracks about your
weight; how can you stand it?" I said, "Dave, so I'm fat and she's a bitch. The thing is, I can lose
weight." <VBG Being overweight shouldn't hold you back. One of the oddest jobs I ever had was working at a
"temp agency", interviewing prospective employees and sending them on job interviews. **Meaning NO offense** :
I learned that women here in/from Texas take more care for how they look in public, than do women "up north"
like my hometown in n.Illinois. The hardest part of the job was getting the "transports" (women who moved to
Texas from the central northern part of the U.S.) to "Fix yourself up!" before going on an interview.
"Want a professional job? Look professional." If this is really what's bugging you, it's easy to
"fix" right now. To bring this On Topic (Quilting): I knew that my grands and great-grands, aunts and
mothers, all quilted. But I didn't see them quilt. I saw my mom do embroidery, quilt top piecing, all kinds of
handcrafts, but I didn't grow up w/ anyone showing me How To Quilt. I learned because I wanted to quilt. And now I'm
pretty good at it. And I look presentable at the Big Functions we must attend in Dallas or Ft.Worth, and my husband's
boss never hesitates to give me The Billionaire Kiss at the annual Christmas party. <VBG> I must be doing
something right w/ clothes and make-up. ;-D Good luck, Sweetie! Ragmop/Sandy--who still doesn't "get" that
eyelash curling thing, but I no longer care... <g On 8/28/06 10:12 AM, in article
1156777944.773715.83950@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "Tricia" cricket527@e-garfield.com> wrote: No
offense to our male readers/quilters, but this topic is weighing on my mind right now and needs discussing
AFAIC....Also, right away, let me say, I know there is much more to being a woman than make up and hair styles and such.
Those other (and yes, much more important) things AREN'T the things I want to discuss in this thread. I had *great*
role models for being a strong, self-sufficient (and self-sacrificing) woman. Please don't flame me for trivalizing
what it means to be a woman. If you find this topic offensive, I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone or incite a
riot. I think most of us would probably say that the teen years is the WHEN in regards to learning to be a
"woman" rather than a "girl". During my teen years my life was pretty screwed up (mom and stepass
getting divorced, long lost father back in my life, acquiring a stepmother, living with an abusive alcoholic, etc. PLUS
all the usual teen angst issues). Somewhat as a result (I think) something "short circuited" in my
development in *how* to be a woman rather than a girl, or rather in some other regards, being an adult vs a child. I
didn't have role models for what I'm facing now in any regard. Specific to the Woman v Girl thing, I know virtually
nothing about make up, let alone how to properly apply it so I don't look like clown or tramp. Forget trying to style
my hair (although I have a little more knowledge on that) in anything other than a basic flyaway ponytail -- it's
basically not happening (these days it's more like getting me to do anything other than use a headband 'cause it only
makes a stubby tail). Occassionally I get a perm. I can't manage to use curlers to save my soul, not even the nice
heated ones DH got me a few years ago at my request. Basically when it comes to being "pretty",
"feminine", and "done up", I friggin' suck. Part of it is having been raised with the mantra that
God blessed me and I didn't need make up and stuff to mask it all. For the most part, I believe the philosophy (in the
sense that we are the way we are supposed to be, etc.) and while I tended to leave God out of it, frequently shared that
philosophy with my students (middle schoolers) when the question inevitably came up why I was one of maybe two or three
female teachers in our building who didn't wear make-up. That was fine in that enviroment -- I might have gotten more
respect from some of the adults I dealt with if I had been "done up" but I got through it okay. I suspect
something that is hindering my ability to get hired lately is the fact that I don't "do" make up and such --
with my baby face (and unfortunately being noticably overweight), I tend to look younger than my age, which at times
translates for some (I suspect) as flighty or incompetent. -- or like I just "don't care" (current hormone
issues resulting in pimples doesn't help dispel that myth either). Besides the employment issue, I have been pondering
trying to find out how to "do" make up properly for a while now -- simply so I *can* do it when the
mood/situation strikes -- like going out for a nice evening with my husband or to a wedding, etc. Hence, realizing I
have virtually no knowledge in an area many women seem to have plenty, I thought I'd ask where that knowledge came
from...where did you learn it? Pondering, Tricia [/quote:9a36dc99b5]
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:49 PM Post subject: Re: OT proposed discussion: How did you learn to LOOK LIKE
Howdy! [[[[[Tricia]]]]] My mom thinks "make-up" is her lipstick and maybe a stroke of that turquoise
eyeshadow that was so popular in the early 1970s. When she sees me w/ a blend of eyeshadow and/or a touch --just a
touch-- of blusher on my face-- she calls me an ugly name. I got over that years ago; no need to carry her baggage w/
me, right? So I didn't grow up doing the girly-girly toilette routine, either. Lucky for me, long, straight, shiny hair
was THE trend in my teens. However, in my mid-twenties it was way past time to ditch the ponytails and do something
about my "complexion." Went to a local lady's wear shop, asked about "nice clothes", got fitted for
the "correct support garments" <g>, and then swallowed my embarrassment and said, "Any advice on
make-up?" Since then I've worn an oil-free base foundation, light dusting of loose powder, and a bit of color on my
eyes, and try to keep some lip color to stay on. <G> The light layer of foundation and powder really helps keep
the oil under control, cuts down on the zits, and makes me look like I at least tried to fit into the "normal"
for grown-up American women. <g> Tricia, STOP getting your hair permed. Very few women look good w/ permed
hair; so many just go w/ that crinkly look, not styling that perm, and that looks worse than flat, straight hair. A
nice layered cut puts some bounce in your hair, and in your step: when you like your hair you feel better. Color it
any way you please; changing hair color is easy, fun, and much healthier than those damned perms! Got a shopping mall
near you? The gals (mostly women) at the make-up counters enjoy giving lessons in how to best use their products, for
YOUR skin, how to make you look good. One of my best friends works for Dior at a local Dillard's Dept. store. She's
gorgeous at age 55, loves make-up (always has) and got the job when she got divorced 8 yrs. ago; she's quite a success.
Part of her success in selling her products is that she knows How To: how to go w/ a light, day look, how to go w/ more
color or deeper shades for glamour, how to play up eyes, make a fuller mouth, how to choose the right color of
foundation. That's what the make-up sellers are trained to do. I've gone to her special make-up sales and had a
complete "do" to increase her sales numbers, tho' I seldom buy anything. I'm just not spending that much
money on make-up. Walgreens, CVS, grocery stores supply most of what I prefer, oil-free, light-weight, throw=out-the-
leftovers make-up. Mary Kay: can't wear the stuff, myself; haven't agreed w/ the 3 salesladies at the
"parties" I attended: I refuse to wear pink make-up. I attend these parties for good friends; "This is a
party? You better have good refreshments!" <g> My Avon lady keeps me supplied w/ good moisturizers and
other products that keep my complexion clear(er). Go to an "Expert" and find the right products for
yourself, then go to a shop that sells something similar for a more reasonable price that fits your budget. IF your
complexion is driving you crazy, see your doctor. You can get a prescription that helps your skin from the inside out.
My skin has been noticeably clearer since I gave up drinking soda pop in March. You need to feel better about the
way you look. This is a place to start. And to feel better about yourself: give up the old crap from the way you
were raised. You don't live w/ those people any more; move on! Being overweight: my mom never passes up a chance
to mention it. She's not, never has been; I take after my dad's side of the family, tall & "BIG", or short
& round. No one force feeds me. I've proved to myself I can lose weight. Most people can. It's the obsessing
about it that makes me sick. (Can't watch Oprah anymore, she's all about her body image! Get the fu## over it!) My
tall, slender older brother said to me a few years ago, "Mom always makes smartass cracks about your weight; how
can you stand it?" I said, "Dave, so I'm fat and she's a bitch. The thing is, I can lose weight."
<VBG> Being overweight shouldn't hold you back. One of the oddest jobs I ever had was working at a "temp
agency", interviewing prospective employees and sending them on job interviews. **Meaning NO offense** : I learned
that women here in/from Texas take more care for how they look in public, than do women "up north" like my
hometown in n.Illinois. The hardest part of the job was getting the "transports" (women who moved to Texas
from the central northern part of the U.S.) to "Fix yourself up!" before going on an interview. "Want a
professional job? Look professional." If this is really what's bugging you, it's easy to "fix" right
now. To bring this On Topic (Quilting): I knew that my grands and great-grands, aunts and mothers, all quilted. But I
didn't see them quilt. I saw my mom do embroidery, quilt top piecing, all kinds of handcrafts, but I didn't grow up w/
anyone showing me How To Quilt. I learned because I wanted to quilt. And now I'm pretty good at it. And I look
presentable at the Big Functions we must attend in Dallas or Ft.Worth, and my husband's boss never hesitates to give me
The Billionaire Kiss at the annual Christmas party. <VBG> I must be doing something right w/ clothes and make-
up. ;-D Good luck, Sweetie! Ragmop/Sandy--who still doesn't "get" that eyelash curling thing, but I no
longer care... <g> On 8/28/06 10:12 AM, in article 1156777944.773715.83950@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,
"Tricia" <cricket527@e-garfield.com> wrote: [quote:34b90db144]No offense to our male readers/quilters,
but this topic is weighing on my mind right now and needs discussing AFAIC....Also, right away, let me say, I know there
is much more to being a woman than make up and hair styles and such. Those other (and yes, much more important) things
AREN'T the things I want to discuss in this thread. I had *great* role models for being a strong, self-sufficient (and
self-sacrificing) woman. Please don't flame me for trivalizing what it means to be a woman. If you find this topic
offensive, I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone or incite a riot. I think most of us would probably say that the
teen years is the WHEN in regards to learning to be a "woman" rather than a "girl". During my teen
years my life was pretty screwed up (mom and stepass getting divorced, long lost father back in my life, acquiring a
stepmother, living with an abusive alcoholic, etc. PLUS all the usual teen angst issues). Somewhat as a result (I
think) something "short circuited" in my development in *how* to be a woman rather than a girl, or rather in
some other regards, being an adult vs a child. I didn't have role models for what I'm facing now in any regard.
Specific to the Woman v Girl thing, I know virtually nothing about make up, let alone how to properly apply it so I
don't look like clown or tramp. Forget trying to style my hair (although I have a little more knowledge on that) in
anything other than a basic flyaway ponytail -- it's basically not happening (these days it's more like getting me to do
anything other than use a headband 'cause it only makes a stubby tail). Occassionally I get a perm. I can't manage to
use curlers to save my soul, not even the nice heated ones DH got me a few years ago at my request. Basically when it
comes to being "pretty", "feminine", and "done up", I friggin' suck. Part of it is having
been raised with the mantra that God blessed me and I didn't need make up and stuff to mask it all. For the most part,
I believe the philosophy (in the sense that we are the way we are supposed to be, etc.) and while I tended to leave God
out of it, frequently shared that philosophy with my students (middle schoolers) when the question inevitably came up
why I was one of maybe two or three female teachers in o