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Posted by Kenda on Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:15 PM Post subject: Re: Christmas cards....make or buy?
1. Yes, I plan on making my cards again this year. Nope not done yet, still don't have any ideas, maybe 'cause I've
been making so many other cards..... 2. Who could that be??? : ) 3. Have the list of people to make for. Don't
have that many as I don't send handmade ones to the people that don't care. 4. I am hoping when I go to SU! Next
month the ladies will be a great source of inspiration!! : ) -- Kenda (Remove NOSPAM to reply) View my projects @:
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 Projects completed for 2006 212 cards 3 mini books 12 LO's 6 quilts 3
beaded braclets "Deb in AR" <bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:i8qZg.15125$vJ2.13506@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... [quote:2eb21ae2d8]1. Yes, I'm making my Christmas cards this
year. A couple years, I've sent out purchased cards to those that, well...really don't care if they have a handmade
card or not. I do have some purchased cards on hand, just in case. LOL 2. No, I haven't started them yet. Why start
early? LOL I know of a gal who, a year ago, already had her Christmas cards done. Not this year, so I don't feel bad.
:-) 3. I haven't made the list yet. I figure I'm looking at about 100. Gotta get a list made and have DH look at it.
I usually either forget someone on the list, or put someone on the list that DH really doesn't want to send a card to or
they won't care if they get one or not. I usually tend to forget people. It's a yearly thing...I make the list, then
DH revises it. LOL 4. I'm not sure if they'll all be the same or make up 2 - 4 different designs. Last year, I
pretty much made them all different. I've planned them one year to do them all the same. All the same was waaaaayyyyyy
too boring for me. Purposely making them all different was tough. So I may try to come up with 2 - 4 designs and make
multiples of those. -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos
Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006 = 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week "Deb in AR"
<bsrdjr@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:u0qZg.15122$vJ2.7815@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... So, who's
making Christmas cards this year? If you're making them, have you started? How many do you plan on making? Making
them all the same, or different designs? I'll answer in a new post. :-) -- Deb in AR - Desert Rat at heart!
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bsrdjr@sbcglobal.net/my_photos Independent Stampin' Up! Demonstrator Pages complete 2006
= 3 Goal for 2006: 1 LO a week [/quote:2eb21ae2d8]
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View entire thread: Quilts, Etc.
Posted by Roberta Zollner on Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:38 PM Post subject: Re: sateen
Truth! If babies have satin skin, then we ladies of a certain age have sateen skin! Roberta in D "polly
esther" <misterclean@mindspring.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:THEUg.9696$UG4.9284@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... [quote:7fe4285f3e]There are two shops within an hour of us
that are what our pastor calls the Ladies Buzzard shops. If pastor needs the benefit of our expertise on Tuesdays
(senior citizens 10% off day), he knows where to find us. A local guy buys out truckloads from stores all over the
country that have had fires or really gone out of business. We never know what might come in from day-to-day and
tossing the rubble is big fun. FWIW IMHO sateen sheets are not that great. Sateen stretches, thus, it bags, sags and
wrinkles. We have a set of those 500 ct sateen sheets but they will probably never get to see a bed again. Might use
'em for absorbing water if the creek starts rising but we only found them annoying as bed linens. Polly
"Jacqueline" <coldiron46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:b241i2t6v319cvife825sl55ti2gp55tbi@4ax.com...
I was thinking more of the quilts at JC Penny and the one on my bed. :( soon I hope to have a hand made one there. Did
anyone look at the price of sheets on that site? 500 Thread Count; 100% Cotton Sateen; 18" Deep Fitted Price: Queen
$199.99; King $239.99 Now to me that is a high price to pay for sheets even if they are cotton sateen and 500 thread
count. I wish I could find some sheets that were not deep pockets. I have all old mattresses and the new sheets just
do not fit them. Jacqueline On 1 Oct 2006 19:15:23 -0700, "Sunny" <shemphill@genext.net> wrote: From
the looks online, these will be similar to the "handmade" quilts turning up at Wally World and Target. Sunny
Carissa wrote: They are cheap quilts. All appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more
like $35 canadian. I don't know about the quilt quality or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by
handmade I mean that sterotyple I dont want it too look "handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion.
They exisit in every mall around this area. They remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I
guess for some who want a quilt and not pay the price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon"
<clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in message news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new
shop opening at the mall this month called Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the
quilts are made on the west coast by Canadians and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a
quilt of any quality. Just wondering. Of course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon
(N.B.) [/quote:7fe4285f3e]
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Posted by Jacqueline on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:57 AM Post subject: Re: sateen
Polly I don't care for sateen either, actually not sure I have ever had sheets out of it. I buy Egyptian Cotton sheets
for my beds, but I have enough sheets that I shouldn't have to buy any for a few years. I try to catch them on sell. I
can't see paying full price for much of anything unless you need it right away. The only items I normally pay full
price for are milk and bread, and fresh fruit and veggies, but I normally only buy them if they are on sale too.
Everything else I buy when on sale. If ground sirloin is on sale I might buy 10 lbs and freeze in 1 lb-2 lb packages,
roasts I will buy 3 or 4 of them at a time. Veggies, if it is one we eat a lot of I normally buy a case of it. My dad
was smart when he had this house built he had two kitchens put in it, and one of the has shelves from my grandparents
grocery store in it, that is the one in the basement and we have it looking like a grocery store, too. Plus I have two
freezers. Now most of our veggies we can from our garden. Tomatoes, Tomato Juice, pickles, peppers, chow chow, and
green beans; potatoes, we keep in the dairy out behind the house, we freeze Okra, greens and corn, apples, peaches,
blackberries and blueberries, strawberries and such. Jacqueline On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 02:07:47 GMT, "polly
esther" <misterclean@mindspring.com> wrote: [quote:eb7aed450a]There are two shops within an hour of us that
are what our pastor calls the Ladies Buzzard shops. If pastor needs the benefit of our expertise on Tuesdays (senior
citizens 10% off day), he knows where to find us. A local guy buys out truckloads from stores all over the country that
have had fires or really gone out of business. We never know what might come in from day-to-day and tossing the rubble
is big fun. FWIW IMHO sateen sheets are not that great. Sateen stretches, thus, it bags, sags and wrinkles. We have a
set of those 500 ct sateen sheets but they will probably never get to see a bed again. Might use 'em for absorbing
water if the creek starts rising but we only found them annoying as bed linens. Polly "Jacqueline"
<coldiron46@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:b241i2t6v319cvife825sl55ti2gp55tbi@4ax.com... I was thinking more of
the quilts at JC Penny and the one on my bed. :( soon I hope to have a hand made one there. Did anyone look at the
price of sheets on that site? 500 Thread Count; 100% Cotton Sateen; 18" Deep Fitted Price: Queen $199.99; King
$239.99 Now to me that is a high price to pay for sheets even if they are cotton sateen and 500 thread count. I wish I
could find some sheets that were not deep pockets. I have all old mattresses and the new sheets just do not fit them.
Jacqueline On 1 Oct 2006 19:15:23 -0700, "Sunny" <shemphill@genext.net> wrote: From the looks online,
these will be similar to the "handmade" quilts turning up at Wally World and Target. Sunny Carissa wrote:
They are cheap quilts. All appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more like $35
canadian. I don't know about the quilt quality or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by handmade I
mean that sterotyple I dont want it too look "handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion. They
exisit in every mall around this area. They remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess
for some who want a quilt and not pay the price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon"
<clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in message news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new
shop opening at the mall this month called Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the
quilts are made on the west coast by Canadians and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a
quilt of any quality. Just wondering. Of course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon
(N.B.) [/quote:eb7aed450a]
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Posted by polly esther on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:07 AM Post subject: Re: sateen
There are two shops within an hour of us that are what our pastor calls the Ladies Buzzard shops. If pastor needs the
benefit of our expertise on Tuesdays (senior citizens 10% off day), he knows where to find us. A local guy buys out
truckloads from stores all over the country that have had fires or really gone out of business. We never know what
might come in from day-to-day and tossing the rubble is big fun. FWIW IMHO sateen sheets are not that great. Sateen
stretches, thus, it bags, sags and wrinkles. We have a set of those 500 ct sateen sheets but they will probably never
get to see a bed again. Might use 'em for absorbing water if the creek starts rising but we only found them annoying
as bed linens. Polly "Jacqueline" <coldiron46@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b241i2t6v319cvife825sl55ti2gp55tbi@4ax.com... [quote:9c7356be46]I was thinking more of the quilts at JC Penny and
the one on my bed. :( soon I hope to have a hand made one there. Did anyone look at the price of sheets on that site?
500 Thread Count; 100% Cotton Sateen; 18" Deep Fitted Price: Queen $199.99; King $239.99 Now to me that is a high
price to pay for sheets even if they are cotton sateen and 500 thread count. I wish I could find some sheets that were
not deep pockets. I have all old mattresses and the new sheets just do not fit them. Jacqueline On 1 Oct 2006 19:15:23
-0700, "Sunny" <shemphill@genext.net> wrote: From the looks online, these will be similar to the
"handmade" quilts turning up at Wally World and Target. Sunny Carissa wrote: They are cheap quilts. All
appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more like $35 canadian. I don't know about the
quilt quality or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by handmade I mean that sterotyple I dont want
it too look "handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion. They exisit in every mall around this
area. They remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess for some who want a quilt and not
pay the price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon" <clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in
message news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new shop opening at the mall this month
called Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the quilts are made on the west coast by
Canadians and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a quilt of any quality. Just
wondering. Of course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon (N.B.) [/quote:9c7356be46]
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Posted by Jacqueline on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:08 AM Post subject: Re: Quilts, Etc.
Denise, I didn't say I bought them, I said that is the price they had on them online in that store. I am still looking
for some that are not deep pockets, but I don't think that is going to happen. BTW, I mentioned JC Penny quilts and
said I have one in another thread a few weeks ago. Well today I changed sheets on my bed and I was looking at it
closely and it is awful. There are not 4 stitches per inch in a lot of it. No wonder the first time I washed it I had
to get mother to resew it for me. Jacqueline On 3 Oct 2006 07:17:01 -0700, "materialgirl01@gmail.com"
<materialgirl01@gmail.com> wrote: [quote:70cc7316ed]I bought 600 tc sheets on overstocks.com a while back.
Fabulous sheets and a fraction of the prices you've listed. NAYY... DeNise Jacqueline wrote: I was thinking more of
the quilts at JC Penny and the one on my bed. :( soon I hope to have a hand made one there. Did anyone look at the
price of sheets on that site? 500 Thread Count; 100% Cotton Sateen; 18" Deep Fitted Price: Queen $199.99; King
$239.99 Now to me that is a high price to pay for sheets even if they are cotton sateen and 500 thread count. I wish I
could find some sheets that were not deep pockets. I have all old mattresses and the new sheets just do not fit them.
Jacqueline On 1 Oct 2006 19:15:23 -0700, "Sunny" <shemphill@genext.net> wrote: From the looks online,
these will be similar to the "handmade" quilts turning up at Wally World and Target. Sunny Carissa wrote:
They are cheap quilts. All appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more like $35
canadian. I don't know about the quilt quality or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by handmade I
mean that sterotyple I dont want it too look "handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion. They
exisit in every mall around this area. They remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess
for some who want a quilt and not pay the price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon"
<clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in message news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new
shop opening at the mall this month called Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the
quilts are made on the west coast by Canadians and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a
quilt of any quality. Just wondering. Of course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon
(N.B.) [/quote:70cc7316ed]
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Posted by materialgirl01@gmail.com on Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:17 PM Post subject: Re: Quilts, Etc.
I bought 600 tc sheets on overstocks.com a while back. Fabulous sheets and a fraction of the prices you've listed.
NAYY... DeNise Jacqueline wrote: [quote:80fcd152ba]I was thinking more of the quilts at JC Penny and the one on my
bed. :( soon I hope to have a hand made one there. Did anyone look at the price of sheets on that site? 500 Thread
Count; 100% Cotton Sateen; 18" Deep Fitted Price: Queen $199.99; King $239.99 Now to me that is a high price to
pay for sheets even if they are cotton sateen and 500 thread count. I wish I could find some sheets that were not deep
pockets. I have all old mattresses and the new sheets just do not fit them. Jacqueline On 1 Oct 2006 19:15:23 -0700,
"Sunny" <shemphill@genext.net> wrote: From the looks online, these will be similar to the
"handmade" quilts turning up at Wally World and Target. Sunny Carissa wrote: They are cheap quilts. All
appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more like $35 canadian. I don't know about the
quilt quality or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by handmade I mean that sterotyple I dont want
it too look "handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion. They exisit in every mall around this
area. They remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess for some who want a quilt and not
pay the price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon" <clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in
message news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new shop opening at the mall this month
called Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the quilts are made on the west coast by
Canadians and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a quilt of any quality. Just
wondering. Of course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon (N.B.) [/quote:80fcd152ba]
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Posted by Jacqueline on Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:09 AM Post subject: Re: Quilts, Etc.
I was thinking more of the quilts at JC Penny and the one on my bed. :( soon I hope to have a hand made one there. Did
anyone look at the price of sheets on that site? 500 Thread Count; 100% Cotton Sateen; 18" Deep Fitted Price:
Queen $199.99; King $239.99 Now to me that is a high price to pay for sheets even if they are cotton sateen and 500
thread count. I wish I could find some sheets that were not deep pockets. I have all old mattresses and the new
sheets just do not fit them. Jacqueline On 1 Oct 2006 19:15:23 -0700, "Sunny" <shemphill@genext.net>
wrote: [quote:c204ba6e77]From the looks online, these will be similar to the "handmade" quilts turning up at
Wally World and Target. Sunny Carissa wrote: They are cheap quilts. All appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely
done. And the prices are more like $35 canadian. I don't know about the quilt quality or how they are made, but they
have the handmade look and by handmade I mean that sterotyple I dont want it too look "handmade" type of
way... but that is just my opinion. They exisit in every mall around this area. They remind me of the
"quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess for some who want a quilt and not pay the price that a real
handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon" <clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new shop opening at the mall this month called
Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the quilts are made on the west coast by Canadians
and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a quilt of any quality. Just wondering. Of
course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon (N.B.) [/quote:c204ba6e77]
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Posted by Sunny on Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:15 AM Post subject: Re: Quilts, Etc.
[quote:6cd9302751]From the looks online, these will be similar to the "handmade" quilts turning up at Wally
World and Target.[/quote:6cd9302751] Sunny Carissa wrote: [quote:6cd9302751]They are cheap quilts. All appear to be
handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more like $35 canadian. I don't know about the quilt quality
or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by handmade I mean that sterotyple I dont want it too look
"handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion. They exisit in every mall around this area. They
remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess for some who want a quilt and not pay the
price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon" <clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... We have a new shop opening at the mall this month called
Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything about them? I was told all the quilts are made on the west coast by Canadians
and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250 .. that doesn't seem much for a quilt of any quality. Just wondering. Of
course I'll have my nose in the door the first day it opens. :-)) Sharon (N.B.) [/quote:6cd9302751]
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Posted by Carissa on Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:03 AM Post subject: Re: Quilts, Etc.
They are cheap quilts. All appear to be handquilted, but its not nicely done. And the prices are more like $35
canadian. I don't know about the quilt quality or how they are made, but they have the handmade look and by handmade
I mean that sterotyple I dont want it too look "handmade" type of way... but that is just my opinion. They
exisit in every mall around this area. They remind me of the "quilts" in hotel rooms actually. Good I guess
for some who want a quilt and not pay the price that a real handmade one would cost. Carissa "Sharon"
<clancyc@rogers.com> wrote in message news:1159753750.609684.239950@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
[quote:7e1deaf6b3]We have a new shop opening at the mall this month called Quilts. Etc. .. does anyone know anything
about them? I was told all the quilts are made on the west coast by Canadians and prices are anywhere from $60 to $250
.. that doesn't seem much for a quilt of any quality. Just wondering. Of course I'll have my nose in the door the
first day it opens. :-)) Sharon (N.B.) [/quote:7e1deaf6b3]
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View entire thread: St. Louis quilt shops?
Posted by Teacher Gal on Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:01 PM Post subject: Re: St. Louis quilt shops?
Patchwork Corner Crafts is in Mascouta, at 200 N. Jefferson st. (618) 566-2652. They mostly do quilts, but have a bit
for other handmade crafts, too. Jackman's Fabrics, at 1000 Lincoln Highway in Fairview Heights (62208) is probably my
favorite. They have other shops on my side of the river, too (including one less than ten minutes from my door!).
While they can often be a bit on the steep side for me, their selection is incredible. They don't seem to carry any of
the Paula Nadelstern lines, though, which miffs me a bit. In addition to quilting fabrics, they carry home decorating
fabrics and some apparrel fabrics, with a nice selection of trims. (618) 632-2700 If you want to jump straight up the
159 to Collinsville, there is Cross Patches at 110 West Main Street, 62234. Their number is (618) 354-3661. Never been
there myself, so can't say much about it. Over on the Missouri side, there's Quilter's Cottage, at 9936 Kennerly Rd,
63128. That's in south county, Not too far off I-55 or I-270. They're a nice little shop, with some unusual pieces I'd
never seen before. This one's right across from St. Anthony's Hospital. There's another Jackman's at 7279 Watson Rd,
63119, right at the corner of Watson and MacKenzie. That's the one I tend to go to quite often. That's about the
extent of what I can find within a thirty minute or so drive for you. I tend to drive more than that to get to my
favorite shops (in Festus and Eureka), so if you're willing to go that far, just holler and I'll set you up with some
more. In the meantime, I'll keep an eye out for any others I may happen upon while surfing. Anastasia --who went and
spent $70 on more yarn yesterday instead of fabric. When will I get my priorities straight? ;-)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:19 PM Post subject: Re: several questions
In article <taq7e2h4qudsknv797d4a2nlcci6kdvcjd@4ax.com>, Jacqueline <coldiron46@yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote:d7f4b1bb3f]Again, I would like to thank all of you for personally taking time out from your day and every day
duties to answer my questions. I have a lot to digest and as soon as I find out what days I will be going to PT I will
start to sew. I am just too excited about this and I know one day I will have a quilt to show for this excitement.
When I start it I will probably post pictures daily so you all can critique me on what I am doing right and wrong. I
want it to work out right. [/quote:d7f4b1bb3f] Just do it. No matter how hard you try, you'll never make a perfect
quilt, and your first quilt is going to be a lot less perfect than your subsequent efforts. Aim to make it a learning
effort. I aim to make each quilt a learning effort. Make a small quilt, crib-size or lap-size, don't spend a lot on
fabrics, choose a simple design and if you don't like it when you're finished, donate it to a women's shelter, nursing
home or other recipient who will not criticize you for any flaws, or even notice them! Many people have a tendency to
get frozen about trying new things. They will spend a lot of effort accumulating supplies and equipment, thinking about
it, worrying if they're doing the right things, unable to start, afraid to make a mistake. Most people have a streak of
this, and have to learn to overcome it. It boils down to fear of failure, and setting your standards too high. You
can't be good at anything without going through a stage of fumbling beginner. Expect to make mistakes so don't sweat it
when you do. Mistakes teach you what not to do next time. Don't be too critical of flaws. Even the real experts make
quilts with imperfections. As you gain experience, the flaws will be less frequent and less obvious. Besides,
perfection is for machines. Why aspire to imitate a machine? It's the little (or not so little) irregularities that
show the quilt is a unique handmade object, not something from a factory. You should be able to put a small quilt with
e.g. 4-6" square patches together in a few hours, and machine-quilt it in a simple straight line design in another
few hours. You'll have gotten a big start on all the basic skills of quilt making and be ready to try something more
complex for your next effort, or to make a better version of the same quilt with less time and effort and stress.
You'll have something to show for your efforts, to keep or give away, and you'll be much more confident for the next
quilt. Note that a lap quilt for a person in a wheelchair should be no larger than 36" x 45" to avoid getting
entangled with the wheels. You can put something like this together from large squares quickly, and it will be greatly
appreciated by someone in a nursing home. Ditto, a child's quilt maybe 45" square will be a wonderful morale-
booster for a woman and child in a shelter for the abused or homeless. In either case, use strong washable fabrics and
polyester batting, which is the best and easiest for simple and minimal machine quilting anyway, and withstands frequent
washing well. (I usually use strong or dark colors and patterned rather than solid fabrics for these quilts, avoiding
whites and pastels, so dirt won't show as readily. It's embarrassing for a disabled person to spill things and it
really helps if stains don't show!) For pattern ideas, I recommend www.quiltville.com. Try Streak of Sunshine, a
quick, attractive and easy pattern, with detailed illustrated instructions, ideal for a beginner. Bonnie, the author of
these pages, has an incredible store of wonderful ideas at all levels of difficulty, but many super-easy designs that
look much more complicated to the non-quilter's eye than they are to make. It's all free, and her friendly and funny
style is very encouraging for the beginner. So relax and have fun. Remember that those prize-winning quilts on web
pages were made by people who started out as inexperienced as you are, and developed their skills over many years and
many projects. If you could make a prize-winning quilt first time around, those quilts wouldn't be very impressive,
would they? And you don't have to aim for a world-class quilt. Just aim to enjoy yourself, learn, and share your
quilts with others who will be as amazed at your early efforts as you are at the show quilts.
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Posted by KittyG on Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:00 AM Post subject: Re: Looking for a pre-cut quilt for a beginner
Starting with a quilt for yourself is a GREAT idea. The first one always seems extra special. And it's wonderful to
have when the rest seem to start flying out the door...it's a satisfying feeling to give, but oh you can sure miss
them! Regards, -- KittyG ~kitty in phx~ http://community.webshots.com/user/kittykatchee "Debra"
<debnbilll@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:m60vd2hdnc1msstefcfh7gec9afh8m095m@4ax.com...
[quote:79100bcdb5]You would not be a bum for taking quilter's scraps. A lot of quilters have left over pieces they will
never use but they just can't bring themselves to throw away because the fabric is so pretty. Charm quilts can be made
from many of those pieces, and charm quilts are usually made with no two fabric pieces alike, as a result many people
here ask for charms so they don't have to buy hundreds of fabrics just to get enough different prints. Someday you will
have plenty of fabric stash and you can send out fabrics to others, that's the way it goes here. Someone has something
they don't need so they send it to someone who can use it. A kind of quilter's "Pass it Forward". By the
way, starting with a quilt for yourself is a good idea. On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 04:58:24 -0400, Jacqueline
<coldiron46@yahoo.com wrote: OK I do not like to bum but I will accept anything anyone wants to send. Gosh I feel
so stupid saying this. I would rather work with 5" squares I think. Colors, well I saw someone here make a
comment about old colors, well I am old and I guess I like old things. LOL I would love to make a quilt for my
bedroom, one for me, then I can make those to give away. Am I selfish? I have not done anything for me, I mean just
for me in over 9 years now, other than go to the doctor and church. My carpet is a light blue, needs replacing too,
wonder if I could quilt me some carpet. LOL My drapes are a Rose color, also need replacing but I want the same colors
when I do it, my walls are off white. If I can't do that I would like to make a quilt for our guest bedroom, you know
the one that every thing lands on :) or in, when you are in a hurry and then you have to spend a day cleaning it up. It
use to have a embroider quilt on it that my mother did the top for and then paid some lady to quilt it for her, it dry
rotted after 40 years of use and I have it in a pillow case in the closet, everything in that room material wise, I
guess I should say cloth wise, is handmade by my mother, it is also the bed that she and my father started house keeping
with. I would like to keep that room as a hand made room, if that makes sense, the colors in it are all kind of neutral
or maybe you would call it out door colors, Browns, beige, green, rust, another set of old fashion colors. :) The
one that I layed out the squares for today is going to be for either a baby or a child, it will be a give away if it
turns out because it is Mickey Mouse material. Oh and I don't know a soul that is pregnant so it will either go to a
sick child at the hospital in the county or I will send it to the Methodist children's home. My dreams are just so big.
I have a clown ministry and some day I would like to make every person in the local nursing home a quilt and go clown
for them and give them all a quilt. I see that happening maybe when I am 60 or more. LOL it will take me a long time
to do that many but I think that would give me so much pleasure. I use to clown there often but after my mother got
sick I had to quit because I could not risk carrying anything in to her, she was just too fragile and could not have
taken any kind of flu etc. being brought in. As a matter of fact when flu season would start her doctor would tell us,
do not bring your mother to my office once you hear of the first case of flu, and don't you all get out in public, so my
sisters and friends would bring our groceries to the door, drop by the window and wave and Mother, Dad and I would not
leave the house. After they had been home and showered and cleaned up they would come back and visit or if they knew
they had been exposed to something they would stay away for a few days. Gosh those were miserable days but I would
relive them again in a heart beat if I needed to. Well I have typed your all's legs off and I need to get to bed, Dad
will be getting up before long and when he gets up I am too. Esp. on Sunday because he cooks on Sunday morning and I
need to make sure he doesn't leave the burners on the stove or get a dish towel too close to a burner. So I am going
to be bum, you reckon so? I have never ever done that before. Thanks everyone for reading and have a great day
tomorrow. Jacqueline On 7 Aug 2006 10:51:04 -0700, "quilter" <l_marsella@yahoo.com> wrote: If you
decide that you'd like to start with a charm quilt (sewing together, say, 5 inch squares of all different fabric),
consider posting a request here with your color and size preference. Most of us have more fabric scraps than we'll ever
use and quilters are a generous breed. (Don't post your address here - provide it by email to those of us who offer to
send you scraps, IF you're comfortable sharing your address). Lynn Audrey wrote: there are several on e-bay that sell
2 inch charms as well as the 4 inch size. You can bid or buy, you can also select a theme or color range. I had to quit
looking as it was rather addictive. good luck Audrey Jacqueline http://www.mountain-breeze.com Recipes and other fun
things Debra in VA See my quilts at http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere[/quote:79100bcdb5]
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Posted by Debra on Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:28 PM Post subject: Re: Looking for a pre-cut quilt for a beginner
You would not be a bum for taking quilter's scraps. A lot of quilters have left over pieces they will never use but
they just can't bring themselves to throw away because the fabric is so pretty. Charm quilts can be made from many of
those pieces, and charm quilts are usually made with no two fabric pieces alike, as a result many people here ask for
charms so they don't have to buy hundreds of fabrics just to get enough different prints. Someday you will have plenty
of fabric stash and you can send out fabrics to others, that's the way it goes here. Someone has something they don't
need so they send it to someone who can use it. A kind of quilter's "Pass it Forward". By the way,
starting with a quilt for yourself is a good idea. On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 04:58:24 -0400, Jacqueline
<coldiron46@yahoo.com> wrote: [quote:f4a20fa027]OK I do not like to bum but I will accept anything anyone wants
to send. Gosh I feel so stupid saying this. I would rather work with 5" squares I think. Colors, well I saw
someone here make a comment about old colors, well I am old and I guess I like old things. LOL I would love to make a
quilt for my bedroom, one for me, then I can make those to give away. Am I selfish? I have not done anything for me,
I mean just for me in over 9 years now, other than go to the doctor and church. My carpet is a light blue, needs
replacing too, wonder if I could quilt me some carpet. LOL My drapes are a Rose color, also need replacing but I want
the same colors when I do it, my walls are off white. If I can't do that I would like to make a quilt for our guest
bedroom, you know the one that every thing lands on :) or in, when you are in a hurry and then you have to spend a day
cleaning it up. It use to have a embroider quilt on it that my mother did the top for and then paid some lady to quilt
it for her, it dry rotted after 40 years of use and I have it in a pillow case in the closet, everything in that room
material wise, I guess I should say cloth wise, is handmade by my mother, it is also the bed that she and my father
started house keeping with. I would like to keep that room as a hand made room, if that makes sense, the colors in it
are all kind of neutral or maybe you would call it out door colors, Browns, beige, green, rust, another set of old
fashion colors. :) The one that I layed out the squares for today is going to be for either a baby or a child, it will
be a give away if it turns out because it is Mickey Mouse material. Oh and I don't know a soul that is pregnant so it
will either go to a sick child at the hospital in the county or I will send it to the Methodist children's home. My
dreams are just so big. I have a clown ministry and some day I would like to make every person in the local nursing
home a quilt and go clown for them and give them all a quilt. I see that happening maybe when I am 60 or more. LOL it
will take me a long time to do that many but I think that would give me so much pleasure. I use to clown there often
but after my mother got sick I had to quit because I could not risk carrying anything in to her, she was just too
fragile and could not have taken any kind of flu etc. being brought in. As a matter of fact when flu season would start
her doctor would tell us, do not bring your mother to my office once you hear of the first case of flu, and don't you
all get out in public, so my sisters and friends would bring our groceries to the door, drop by the window and wave and
Mother, Dad and I would not leave the house. After they had been home and showered and cleaned up they would come back
and visit or if they knew they had been exposed to something they would stay away for a few days. Gosh those were
miserable days but I would relive them again in a heart beat if I needed to. Well I have typed your all's legs off and
I need to get to bed, Dad will be getting up before long and when he gets up I am too. Esp. on Sunday because he cooks
on Sunday morning and I need to make sure he doesn't leave the burners on the stove or get a dish towel too close to a
burner. So I am going to be bum, you reckon so? I have never ever done that before. Thanks everyone for reading and
have a great day tomorrow. Jacqueline On 7 Aug 2006 10:51:04 -0700, "quilter" <l_marsella@yahoo.com>
wrote: If you decide that you'd like to start with a charm quilt (sewing together, say, 5 inch squares of all different
fabric), consider posting a request here with your color and size preference. Most of us have more fabric scraps than
we'll ever use and quilters are a generous breed. (Don't post your address here - provide it by email to those of us
who offer to send you scraps, IF you're comfortable sharing your address). Lynn Audrey wrote: there are several on
e-bay that sell 2 inch charms as well as the 4 inch size. You can bid or buy, you can also select a theme or color
range. I had to quit looking as it was rather addictive. good luck Audrey Jacqueline http://www.mountain-breeze.com
Recipes and other fun things Debra in VA[/quote:f4a20fa027] See my quilts at
http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere
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Posted by Marigold on Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:00 AM Post subject: Re: Am I invisible?
Kim Congrats on being asked to display your quilts. That is a tremondous honour. Having never been in your position
before I wouldn't have a clue on how to proceed! It certainly sounds reasonable to me to ask to have your books
available for sale. The worst they can do is say "no" but I would think it would add something to the
display. We ship items to the US quite frequently and have never had a problem. One of the things we have been
cautioned on is wording on any form you are asked to fill out. You want it to sound very blah, mundane. For instance,
we sell handmade, custom knives. Our labels say things like "stainless steel cutlery" or "steel
tableware". We try not to emphasize the custom made idea. And with security issues these days we certainly don't
use the word "knife". We normally use Express Post USA as our shipping method of choice. We have also used
FEDEX when we are under a time crunch. Fedex may be the safer route, but they are more expensive The only problems we
have had is items coming back into Canada. From the customs people charging us GST on our own items that are being
returned to us, to having the parcel ripped open at customs and resealed with yellow customs tape, only not repackaged
properly and things broken, to out-right theft of items. I'd like to make a nasty comment, but will keep that to
myself. Again, this is thru the post office. Couriers like to charge hefty brokerage fees to bring things across the
border, so that is something else to check out if you are having a courier bring your quilts back. I tend to list the
value for insurance lower than what the item is actually worth, thinking that I'd like to get something back if it goes
missing, but not high enough to indicate that the item is worth taking the risk of stealing. Hope you find something
in all that, that might help. Marilyn in sunny Alberta "KI Graham" <kigraham@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:nXFNg.534546$iF6.181577@pd7tw2no... [quote:7b5debe35a]Or just being ignored? I was hoping for some feedback about
sending quilts to be part of a museum display, but got no response. I'm trying again before I slink back to my corner...
I've been asked to submit some quilts to a museum wishing to mount a display of "religious quilts." Since this
is the first time I've received this kind of request....I'm not sure about the logistics of sending my
"babies" all the way to Cleveland, Tennessee for display. The first questions that leap to my mine are about
insurance, control over the display conditions [will the museum have "white glove" ladies or keep the textiles
away from little hands?] I'm not interested in selling my Bible block quilts, but I would like to suggest the museum
gift shop should offer my book(s) for sale...does that seem like a reasonable request? Your ideas, opinions will be
welcome... -- Kim Graham http://members.shaw.ca/kigraham Nanaimo, BC, Canada THE WORD IN PATCHWORK -- Kim Graham
http://members.shaw.ca/kigraham Nanaimo, BC, Canada THE WORD IN PATCHWORK [/quote:7b5debe35a]
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Posted by Tricia on Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:14 PM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
Another alternative that might help solve both issues with MIL --- Assuming you live near each other, Tell her politely
that you have quilts to work on for family but that you'd love to teach *her* how to make quilts for her bosses and take
her on as a student -- she makes the quilts for her bosses while you make the other quilts you need to..... *she* puts
in the time, energy, and $.....if she goes for being a student, I bet she gets a whole new appreciation for the one you
made her....who knows, maybe you'll also develop a new common interest. Tricia Jenn in CA wrote:
[quote:a09054ce65]Debbie, I agree that once a gift is given, the recipiant (I know it's not spelled right) is free to
do as they please with it. This is why when I give handmade stuff, quilts included, there is one string attached: If
you EVER think of getting rid of it, give it back. Either tell your MIL exactly how much her cost to make in time,
materials, etc. Or You could just tell her to stuff it and direct her to mass produced quilts made overseas. She will
get what she paid for Either way, talk to your DH about it. If he even has an inkling of the time and effort involved
and knows your MIL is getting rid of the one you made her, he better side with you on this. If he doesn't let me know.
I will come by if I'm ever in the area and beat some sense into his skull for you. :-) Jenn in CA PS It doesn't sound
like she is taking very good care of the one she gave you. Given the quality of fabric most of us use for this hobby,
it shouldn't have faded after less than a year. My DH has one that goes EVERYWHERE with him (try packing a queen size
quilt for a cruise :-) and hasn't yet faded and it's two years old - the fabric is 3 years old. And I'm pretty sure I
don't take good care of it. :-) Debbie wrote: Hi all, Just thought I'd get some opinions on a problem that has come
up. When people find out you make quilts they all want one. Problem is, I don't mind making relatives one for free, but
my MIL has asked me to make her bosses one each (she has two bosses) for Christmas. She says she will pay me for it. If
I charged by the time and effort I put into it, she couldn't pay me for it. I know she's thinking $20-50. Another
thing that has irked me is that I made my MIL one in January and she informed me (the same day she asked me to make her
bosses one and to make her a bedspread and matching shams for her bed) that she is going to put the one I made for her
in January in a yard sale. I said, "Don't sell it in a yard sale, I'll buy it back." And she said, "Well,
it's faded." !!!!!!!!!!!!! How do I get across to her that this stuff takes a lot of time??? She told me that
making quilts for people at Christmas was a *cheap* way to give presents, too. I don't think she is trying to be mean,
but she has no idea the time and effort that goes into this stuff. Hubby has somewhat of an idea of how much time and
effort I put into it, but he is real protective of his mother, so I have to approach this delicately. LOL Thanks for
any help and advice you can give me. Debbie[/quote:a09054ce65]
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Posted by Debbie on Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:47 PM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
[quote:6c149d0b89]Debbie, I agree that once a gift is given, the recipiant (I know it's not spelled right) is free to
do as they please with it. This is why when I give handmade stuff, quilts included, there is one string attached: If
you EVER think of getting rid of it, give it back. [/quote:6c149d0b89] Yes, I will start telling them that.
[quote:6c149d0b89] Either tell your MIL exactly how much her cost to make in time, materials, etc. Or You could just
tell her to stuff it and direct her to mass produced quilts made overseas. She will get what she paid for
[/quote:6c149d0b89] AAmen [quote:6c149d0b89] Either way, talk to your DH about it. If he even has an inkling of the
time and effort involved and knows your MIL is getting rid of the one you made her, he better side with you on this. If
he doesn't let me know. I will come by if I'm ever in the area and beat some sense into his skull for you. :-)
[/quote:6c149d0b89] LOL. I think I luv you. [quote:6c149d0b89] Jenn in CA PS It doesn't sound like she is taking very
good care of the one she gave you. Given the quality of fabric most of us use for this hobby, it shouldn't have faded
after less than a year. My DH has one that goes EVERYWHERE with him (try packing a queen size quilt for a cruise :-)
and hasn't yet faded and it's two years old - the fabric is 3 years old. And I'm pretty sure I don't take good care of
it. :-) [/quote:6c149d0b89] Well, I bought the material from JoAnns, not Wal-Mart, so I don't how it could have faded
enough to where she finds it not good enough to display or use. grrrrrrrrr I just saw it about a month ago and it
looked the same to me! Just hurt my feelings that something I considered so valuable and loving is tossed into a yard
sale for pennies, ya know? When I gave it to her I told her it was made with love especially for her. Oh well. Debbie
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Posted by Jenn in CA on Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:41 PM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
Debbie, I agree that once a gift is given, the recipiant (I know it's not spelled right) is free to do as they please
with it. This is why when I give handmade stuff, quilts included, there is one string attached: If you EVER think of
getting rid of it, give it back. Either tell your MIL exactly how much her cost to make in time, materials, etc. Or
You could just tell her to stuff it and direct her to mass produced quilts made overseas. She will get what she paid
for Either way, talk to your DH about it. If he even has an inkling of the time and effort involved and knows your MIL
is getting rid of the one you made her, he better side with you on this. If he doesn't let me know. I will come by if
I'm ever in the area and beat some sense into his skull for you. :-) Jenn in CA PS It doesn't sound like she is taking
very good care of the one she gave you. Given the quality of fabric most of us use for this hobby, it shouldn't have
faded after less than a year. My DH has one that goes EVERYWHERE with him (try packing a queen size quilt for a cruise
:-) and hasn't yet faded and it's two years old - the fabric is 3 years old. And I'm pretty sure I don't take good care
of it. :-) Debbie wrote: [quote:ef429bc676]Hi all, Just thought I'd get some opinions on a problem that has come up.
When people find out you make quilts they all want one. Problem is, I don't mind making relatives one for free, but my
MIL has asked me to make her bosses one each (she has two bosses) for Christmas. She says she will pay me for it. If I
charged by the time and effort I put into it, she couldn't pay me for it. I know she's thinking $20-50. Another thing
that has irked me is that I made my MIL one in January and she informed me (the same day she asked me to make her bosses
one and to make her a bedspread and matching shams for her bed) that she is going to put the one I made for her in
January in a yard sale. I said, "Don't sell it in a yard sale, I'll buy it back." And she said, "Well,
it's faded." !!!!!!!!!!!!! How do I get across to her that this stuff takes a lot of time??? She told me that
making quilts for people at Christmas was a *cheap* way to give presents, too. I don't think she is trying to be mean,
but she has no idea the time and effort that goes into this stuff. Hubby has somewhat of an idea of how much time and
effort I put into it, but he is real protective of his mother, so I have to approach this delicately. LOL Thanks for
any help and advice you can give me. Debbie[/quote:ef429bc676]
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Posted by Cats on Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:47 AM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
I think the problem for many people is distinguishing between hobby and skill. They seem to think that if something
is a "hobby" you should do it for no labour/time payment. And I constantly find that non-quilters have no
idea how much even the materials for a quilt cost. -- -- Cheryl & the Cats _ o _ o
0 0 ( > Y < ) ( > Y < ) ( > Y < ) ~ ~ U Enness
Boofhead Donut Starting to wake from hibernation! http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest
catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau "NightMist" <nightmiste@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:44ec67a7.73720675@news.madbbs.com... : On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:11:26 +0100, Kate Dicey : <kate@diceyhome.free-
online.co.uk> wrote: : : >Debbie wrote: : > : >> Gosh, I feel better. I felt like a whiney butt for even
grumbling about it, : >> but when she said she was going to put that one in the yard sale and it : >> isn't
even a year old yet, my blood pressure hit the roof!!! It was obvious : >> she had no appreciation for my time
and effort. : >> : (snip) : : >> What wuld you all charge for a log cabin quilt that size -- roughly? I
was : >> thinking $200, but that sounds like a lot. ex. 30 hours x 5.00 an hour + $50 : >> in materials. :
> : >$5 an hour is waaaaay too low for such skilled work. $20 would be : >closer to reality. : > : At
present $20/hour plus is exactly what I charge for garment sewing. : Here is a repost (updated to reflect current
charges) of a reply I : made in a fashion group: : : *************************************** : My basic rules include
never, ever, start pricing at cost of : materials, unless it's a 100% donation to a charity auction. : There are costs
beyond materials that you don't usually stop and : consider. You want to cover those or you find yourself loseing
money : and having a hard time figuring out where it went. : : : For clothing, I usually run about like this: : : :
Alterations and repairs, round time to the nearest quarter hour and : charge $20/hour plus the cost of any materials
used (other than : thread, that gets ridiculous unless it's a huge major remake of : something monstrous). : Same deal
for plain sewing from a purchased pattern but multiply the : cost of materials by 2.5. However, if the : pattern
company is on my list of incompetant pattern makers, I charge : extra for PITA work (usually by throwing $25-$50 on the
total : estimate) : : : Total custom design, or working from a pattern that is more than 2 : sizes off from the desired
result is purely by negotiation, but no : less than the estimated cost of materials times 2.5 plus [the : estimated
time it will take in hours, _including the design time_, : times 5] : Custom design does often come out cheaper, but it
is actually easier : for me than doing things someone else's way. : : : The times that something goes out on comission,
or to auction, I : always work the percentage for comission into the price as well as any : : fees involved. : : The
multiplier on materials is to cover the odd bits I forget when : toting up the materials, and things that I buy in
quantity and am too : lazy to tally individually. Backing buttons, more thread than I : counted on or thread bought
on cones and used for several projects, : marking materials, needles and pins, paper, etc. This way I can just : tote
up the fabric and any specialty items and not fret that I am : boggleing the math and hurting my finances. Things like
handmade lace : go on a completely different pricing basis and then are added in. : **************************** : : I
don't see why this kind of pricing should not work for quilts as : well as garments. You may want to alter the
materials multiplier as : quilts take more fabric and fewer notions, depending on your process : of course. : : While
I do discount to reletives, if they want me to make something : for them to give as a gift to a friend of theirs the
discount is not : so much. : : You MIL is asking you to _work_. If you owned a TV store and had : given her a TV as a
gift, would she then expect you to just hand over : a pair for her to give to strangers? Obviously with quilts the
cost : would be just as much or more. : Either she needs to understand the expense, or your DH needs to have a : chat
with her about trying to take undo advantage of his family. : My own mom is still utterly clueless about the time and
expense of : handmade. She equates it with cheap and substandard. It may just be : that generation, or one of it's
subcultures. : : NightMist : -- : The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.
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Posted by NightMist on Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:10 PM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:11:26 +0100, Kate Dicey <kate@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk> wrote: [quote:f3e3150cf9]Debbie
wrote: Gosh, I feel better. I felt like a whiney butt for even grumbling about it, but when she said she was going to
put that one in the yard sale and it isn't even a year old yet, my blood pressure hit the roof!!! It was obvious she had
no appreciation for my time and effort. (snip)[/quote:f3e3150cf9] [quote:f3e3150cf9]What wuld you all charge for a log
cabin quilt that size -- roughly? I was thinking $200, but that sounds like a lot. ex. 30 hours x 5.00 an hour + $50 in
materials. $5 an hour is waaaaay too low for such skilled work. $20 would be closer to reality. At present $20/hour
plus is exactly what I charge for garment sewing.[/quote:f3e3150cf9] Here is a repost (updated to reflect current
charges) of a reply I made in a fashion group: *************************************** My basic rules include never,
ever, start pricing at cost of materials, unless it's a 100% donation to a charity auction. There are costs beyond
materials that you don't usually stop and consider. You want to cover those or you find yourself loseing money and
having a hard time figuring out where it went. For clothing, I usually run about like this: Alterations and
repairs, round time to the nearest quarter hour and charge $20/hour plus the cost of any materials used (other than
thread, that gets ridiculous unless it's a huge major remake of something monstrous). Same deal for plain sewing from
a purchased pattern but multiply the cost of materials by 2.5. However, if the pattern company is on my list of
incompetant pattern makers, I charge extra for PITA work (usually by throwing $25-$50 on the total estimate) Total
custom design, or working from a pattern that is more than 2 sizes off from the desired result is purely by
negotiation, but no less than the estimated cost of materials times 2.5 plus [the estimated time it will take in
hours, _including the design time_, times 5] Custom design does often come out cheaper, but it is actually easier for
me than doing things someone else's way. The times that something goes out on comission, or to auction, I always
work the percentage for comission into the price as well as any fees involved. The multiplier on materials is to
cover the odd bits I forget when toting up the materials, and things that I buy in quantity and am too lazy to tally
individually. Backing buttons, more thread than I counted on or thread bought on cones and used for several projects,
marking materials, needles and pins, paper, etc. This way I can just tote up the fabric and any specialty items and not
fret that I am boggleing the math and hurting my finances. Things like handmade lace go on a completely different
pricing basis and then are added in. **************************** I don't see why this kind of pricing should not work
for quilts as well as garments. You may want to alter the materials multiplier as quilts take more fabric and fewer
notions, depending on your process of course. While I do discount to reletives, if they want me to make something for
them to give as a gift to a friend of theirs the discount is not so much. You MIL is asking you to _work_. If you
owned a TV store and had given her a TV as a gift, would she then expect you to just hand over a pair for her to give to
strangers? Obviously with quilts the cost would be just as much or more. Either she needs to understand the expense,
or your DH needs to have a chat with her about trying to take undo advantage of his family. My own mom is still utterly
clueless about the time and expense of handmade. She equates it with cheap and substandard. It may just be that
generation, or one of it's subcultures. NightMist -- The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.
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Posted by Phaedrine on Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:54 AM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
In article <C110FB38.951F%eltex@sbcglobal.net>, Sandy Ellison <eltex@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[quote:736a5a540d]Howdy! You reckon glaring at the woman and screaming, "WHAT?!!!? Are you NUTZ!???!!?"
isn't appropriate and final? g You don't think she's trying to be mean? She just comes by this casual, calloused,
insulting attitude naturally? Altho' Texas is not The South, my m-i-l is from East Texas which is very Southern, &
we have discussed some very creative phrases in the art of the put-down. Helpful phrases like, "Oh, sure
'nuff?" & "Why--isn't that just so sweet of you!" and "Oh, Bless your Heart!" and
saying "Darlin' " a lot. <g "Oh, how sweet of you to think of me, and my talents, because of course
you realize the retail value of my quilts starts at $650, bless your heart, but I'm afraid I just couldn't do justice to
your expectations." Big ol' smiles go real well with this kind of cra..er.. refusal. My dad, native Texan, when
presented w/ someone else's expectations of what he should do: "How 'bout that." "Rhonnie! I want some
handmade items for my bosses, in time for the holidays, and I want them for almost free!" Rhonnie: "How 'bout
that." <g Barney Fife: Nip it! In the BUD! NIP IT IN THE BUD! Debbie, you must stop this woman now.
If you make another quilty/crafty item for her at least a dozen of us are coming to "see" you to take you to
have your head examined. <VBG As for her son--who's he married to, anyway? First right of protection should go to
The Wife, IMO. YMMV Nah, you don't owe her anything, esp. custom-made quilts. The *cheap* part of this deal is her
attitude. "M-i-l, Darlin', if you really want to give YOUR bosses something handmade, how 'bout you go down to the
craft store and get some craft kits and make them something from your own 2 delicate hands? I mean, everyone always
needs another bookmark, right? And potholders: who doesn't like potholders?" Remind her of the Ojo de Dio we all
made out of yarn and sticks at Vacation Bible School. And mobiles out of fruit juice can tops. See, the possibilities
are endless. And she can take pride in saying, "I made this myself!" Bless her heart. Good luck! Hang in
here. We'll talk you thru' this. ;-) Ragmop/Sandy--been there, been there again, hit myself over the head to keep me
from going back... 8- [/quote:736a5a540d] Oh this is just SO rich!! Best laugh I had in a week! The part about the
fruit juice can tops nearly had me rolling on the floor. :) Phae -- I fear me you but warm the starved snake Who,
cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI,Shakespeare)
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Posted by Debbie on Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:25 AM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
OMG, ROTFLMAO.............................. This one is definitely a keeper! Debbie [quote:a6fd346c45]Howdy! You
reckon glaring at the woman and screaming, "WHAT?!!!? Are you NUTZ!???!!?" isn't appropriate and final? g
You don't think she's trying to be mean? She just comes by this casual, calloused, insulting attitude naturally?
Altho' Texas is not The South, my m-i-l is from East Texas which is very Southern, & we have discussed some very
creative phrases in the art of the put-down. Helpful phrases like, "Oh, sure 'nuff?" & "Why--isn't
that just so sweet of you!" and "Oh, Bless your Heart!" and saying "Darlin' " a lot. <g
"Oh, how sweet of you to think of me, and my talents, because of course you realize the retail value of my quilts
starts at $650, bless your heart, but I'm afraid I just couldn't do justice to your expectations." Big ol' smiles
go real well with this kind of cra..er.. refusal. My dad, native Texan, when presented w/ someone else's expectations
of what he should do: "How 'bout that." "Rhonnie! I want some handmade items for my bosses, in time for
the holidays, and I want them for almost free!" Rhonnie: "How 'bout that." <g Barney Fife: Nip
it! In the BUD! NIP IT IN THE BUD! Debbie, you must stop this woman now. If you make another quilty/crafty item for
her at least a dozen of us are coming to "see" you to take you to have your head examined. <VBG As for her
son--who's he married to, anyway? First right of protection should go to The Wife, IMO. YMMV Nah, you don't owe her
anything, esp. custom-made quilts. The *cheap* part of this deal is her attitude. "M-i-l, Darlin', if you really
want to give YOUR bosses something handmade, how 'bout you go down to the craft store and get some craft kits and make
them something from your own 2 delicate hands? I mean, everyone always needs another bookmark, right? And potholders:
who doesn't like potholders?" Remind her of the Ojo de Dio we all made out of yarn and sticks at Vacation Bible
School. And mobiles out of fruit juice can tops. See, the possibilities are endless. And she can take pride in saying,
"I made this myself!" Bless her heart. Good luck! Hang in here. We'll talk you thru' this. ;-)
Ragmop/Sandy--been there, been there again, hit myself over the head to keep me from going back...
8-[/quote:a6fd346c45]
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Posted by Sandy Ellison on Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:19 AM Post subject: Re: What would you do?
Howdy! You reckon glaring at the woman and screaming, "WHAT?!!!? Are you NUTZ!???!!?" isn't appropriate and
final? <g> You don't think she's trying to be mean? She just comes by this casual, calloused, insulting
attitude naturally? Altho' Texas is not The South, my m-i-l is from East Texas which is very Southern, & we have
discussed some very creative phrases in the art of the put-down. Helpful phrases like, "Oh, sure 'nuff?"
& "Why--isn't that just so sweet of you!" and "Oh, Bless your Heart!" and saying "Darlin'
" a lot. <g> "Oh, how sweet of you to think of me, and my talents, because of course you realize the
retail value of my quilts starts at $650, bless your heart, but I'm afraid I just couldn't do justice to your
expectations." Big ol' smiles go real well with this kind of cra..er.. refusal. My dad, native Texan, when
presented w/ someone else's expectations of what he should do: "How 'bout that." "Rhonnie! I want some
handmade items for my bosses, in time for the holidays, and I want them for almost free!" Rhonnie: "How 'bout
that." <g> Barney Fife: Nip it! In the BUD! NIP IT IN THE BUD! Debbie, you must stop this
woman now. If you make another quilty/crafty item for her at least a dozen of us are coming to "see" you to
take you to have your head examined. <VBG> As for her son--who's he married to, anyway? First right of
protection should go to The Wife, IMO. YMMV Nah, you don't owe her anything, esp. custom-made quilts. The *cheap* part
of this deal is her attitude. "M-i-l, Darlin', if you really want to give YOUR bosses something handmade, how 'bout
you go down to the craft store and get some craft kits and make them something from your own 2 delicate hands? I mean,
everyone always needs another bookmark, right? And potholders: who doesn't like potholders?" Remind her of the
Ojo de Dio we all made out of yarn and sticks at Vacation Bible School. And mobiles out of fruit juice can tops. See,
the possibilities are endless. And she can take pride in saying, "I made this myself!" Bless her heart.
Good luck! Hang in here. We'll talk you thru' this. ;-) Ragmop/Sandy--been there, been there again, hit myself over
the head to keep me from going back... 8-> On 8/22/06 3:05 PM, in article SrJGg.27251$uV.15838@trnddc08,
"Debbie" <Debbie1861@hotmail.com> wrote: [quote:a8266f36b8]Hi all, Just thought I'd get some opinions
on a problem that has come up. When people find out you make quilts they all want one. Problem is, I don't mind making
relatives one for free, but my MIL has asked me to make her bosses one each (she has two bosses) for Christmas. She says
she will pay me for it. If I charged by the time and effort I put into it, she couldn't pay me for it. I know she's
thinking $20-50. Another thing that has irked me is that I made my MIL one in January and she informed me (the same day
she asked me to make her bosses one and to make her a bedspread and matching shams for her bed) that she is going to put
the one I made for her in January in a yard sale. I said, "Don't sell it in a yard sale, I'll buy it back."
And she said, "Well, it's faded." !!!!!!!!!!!!! How do I get across to her that this stuff takes a lot of
time??? She told me that making quilts for people at Christmas was a *cheap* way to give presents, too. I don't think
she is trying to be mean, but she has no idea the time and effort that goes into this stuff. Hubby has somewhat of an
idea of how much time and effort I put into it, but he is real protective of his mother, so I have to approach this
delicately. LOL Thanks for any help and advice you can give me. Debbie [/quote:a8266f36b8]
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Posted by Kenda on Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:43 PM Post subject: Re: KENDA, APRIL, DOROTHY, KATE---
Yikes!!! Dave, so sorry!!! I have been sew busy! LOL (pun intended! ) Lemme' see..... What item is so expensive
that even though you'd love to have it, you just don't dare tell anyone that you want it? A wide format printer. I'd
love to have one! I have also drooled over the Stampin' Up! ink pads. I'd love to have one in every color! That is
currently way out of my budget as well. What item is really cheap to buy, but you still always put off buying it?
Adhesive, in fact I have run out of my Tombo adhesive refills. Of the handmade things you've seen on the internet, (a
link to a picture of it would be wonderful to share with us) which one would you like to receive as a gift? Gosh,
there are so many wonderful items out there. I'd have to go along with Dorothy on the paperbag albums. There are so
many, too many to chose from. What item or items do you use a lot of and are always running out of? Adhesive, tombo
& Zyron as well as YES glue. (I use it on altered items) When you are in a scrapbook store, which section of the
store are you most likely to spend time in? I love the areas that have the metal items as well as the stuff for
"altered" art. Oh and metal!! I love the look of metals What else would you like to tell us about the kind
of scrapbook items make your little heart pitter patter? I love altered items, as well as metal things......and of
course if it has an alphabet attached even better! LOL -- Kenda (Remove NOSPAM to reply) View my projects @:
http://community.webshots.com/user/kendalee101 Projects completed for 2006 212 cards 3 mini books 12 LO's 6 quilts 3
beaded braclets, 2 necklaces
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